Natalee Holloway - Case Discussion Extended Thread 4

PVDS = Paulus (Paul) van der Sloot (Joran's Father)
AVDS = Anita van der Sloot (Joran's Mother)
JVDS = Joran van der Sloot - 17 year old suspect
DK = Deepak Kalpoe - 21 year old suspect
SK = Satish Kalpoe - 19 year old suspect
MSM = Main Stream Media
Beth or BT = Beth Twitty (Natalee's Mother)
Jug or JT = Jug Twitty (Natalee's Step-Father - married to Beth)
Nat or NH = Natalee Holloway
GVS = Greta Van Susteren (FOX)
VDS = van der Sloot
LE = Law Enforcement
SG or SG's = Security Guards
MJ = Mickey John's (Security Guard)
SC = Steve Croes (Boat Deejay)
CC = Charles Croes (Owns Rental Cell Phone Co)
BOR = Bill O'Reilly (FOX)
NG = Nancy Grace (CNN)
HNN = Headline News Network
CNN = Cable News Network

Show/Interview Transcripts

Former Aruba Suspect Alleges Plot!
This is a partial transcript from "On the Record," June 28, 2005

Transcript: Greta in Aruba
INTERVIEW WITH NADIRA RAMIREZ, SATISH AND DEEPAK KALPOE'S MOTHER
INTERVIEW WITH ANITA VAN DER SLOOT BEFORE PAULUS VAN DER SLOOT IS ARRESTED
INTERVIEW WITH RUFO SOLOGNIER, STEVE CROES' UNCLE
This is a partial transcript from "On the Record," June 23, 2005

Transcript: Van der Sloots Speak
This is a partial transcript from "On the Record," June 22, 2005

Beth Twitty: 'My Daughter Has Been Kidnapped'
This is a partial transcript from "Hannity & Colmes," June 22, 2005

Natalee's Friends Go 'On the Record'
This is a partial transcript from "On the Record," June 21, 2005

Natalee's Mother Won't Leave Without Her
This is a partial transcript from "On the Record," June 20, 2005

Natalee's Stepfather Holds Out Hope
This is a partial transcript from "On the Record," June 16, 2005

Holloway's Mother: 'My Daughter is Alive'
This is a partial transcript from "On the Record," June 15, 2005

Tragic Trip?
This is a partial transcript from "The O'Reilly Factor," June 15, 2005

Searching for Natalee
This is a partial transcript from "Hannity & Colmes," June 8, 2005

'On the Record' Exclusive
This is a partial transcript from "On the Record," June 7, 2005

Some case info to go along with this map...
(as far as I know this is all correct)

http://www.arubavacationhouse.com/images/arubamap.gif

The Island is 6 to 7 miles deep by about 20 miles long

B-1 = California Lighthouse - where the boys claim they took her first after leaving the Bar.

D-3 = #4 is the location of the 2 Marriott Hotels - where the 2 brothers (and now Joran) claim they dropped Joran and Natalee off after leaving the lighthouse - the 2 brothers claim they went home to Hooiberg after that.

D-3 = #19 is the location of the Holiday Inn where Natalee was staying.

G-5 = Where the red #2 marker is pointing to is the area that the Carlos & Charlie Bar is located

D-4 = Township of Montana is where Joran lives

F-7/8 = Hooiberg (Haystack Mountain) - The 2 Kalpoe brothers live in this area at the foot of the Haystack Mountian.

C-9 = By the Natural Bridge on the map is the location where the sharks hang out as they are fed at this location. This is the Shark Infested Feeding Area.

E-3 = Wetland in the Bird Sanctuary is the location where they found the Condoms/Condom Wrappers - Duct Tape (looked like black electrical tape to me) - Female Flowered Panties - and a String or Strap from a Bikini or Halter Top.

PLEASE KEEP THIS THREAD
LARGE PICTURE FREE FOR DIAL UP ISP USERS.

I am asking that everyone either post just a link to the pictures they wish to share or reduce the size of the picture when you use the img src tag.

This will help greatly for us who are on Dial-up.

Examples

Just a link to a picture like this...(this is the simplest method)
http://www.arubavacationhouse.com/images/arubamap.gif

or reduce this image size like this (you need to know HTML to do it this way)

I DO NOT HAVE A PING LIST AND I DO NOT WISH TO MAKE ONE

Just a reminder that...
THIS IS A NO LARGE
PICTURE POSTING THREAD
(please do not post large pictures on the thread - small pictures are fine - as well simple links to the pictures)

This is a discussion thread about the daily occurrences in the Natalee Holloway Case.
It is located in "Chat" on Free Republic
It is not a thread for bashing Natalee - Natalee's Family or Natalee's Friends.
It also is not an ongoing discussion thread for any other cases.

TOPICS: Heated Discussion
KEYWORDS: allnatalieallthetime; arrestedpaulvds; aruba; compulsive; corruption; croes; daterapedrug; deepak; dutch; fubaruba; ghb; holloway; joran; kalpooiesgohome; kidnapped; mafia; missing; natalee; nataleeholloway; obsessive; ocd; roofies; satish; sloot; tourism; travel; vandersloot

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To: TexKat

Yea, how many "cases of this kind" do they really have?

1,461 posted on 07/03/2005 7:07:38 PM PDT by BamaBlue

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To: Yaelle

I'm at a friend's house....no mouse, and I'm struggling to type this. When I get home, I'll send all I have regarding tales of Carlos and Charlies and law enforcement in Aruba. It's scary!

1,462 posted on 07/03/2005 7:09:17 PM PDT by toldyou

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To: BamaBlue

If that is the case she would have been found by now.

Not if they are keeping her drugged and moving her house to house as Beth has said earlier.

However, the $ amount is what floors me. Thats got to be one of those Steve Croes' rumors. :)

1,463 posted on 07/03/2005 7:10:37 PM PDT by TexKat (Just because you did not see it or read it, that does not mean it did or did not happen.)

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To: toldyou

According to Ruben Trapenberg the text messages and phone calls that the prosecutor has for evidence is the communications between the 3 suspects after they were first released and prior to 6/9.

1,464 posted on 07/03/2005 7:17:16 PM PDT by TexKat (Just because you did not see it or read it, that does not mean it did or did not happen.)

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To: TexKat

I would agree with you for a "normal, run-of-the-mill case". This is different. With the attention this is getting someone would talk. Here no one's talking...hence nothing to this.

1,465 posted on 07/03/2005 7:18:54 PM PDT by BamaBlue

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From arubagirlSM:

Posted: Sun Jul 03, 2005 9:54 pm Post subject:

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The two beach bums, I'm not even sure if it's true, since the police aren't even looking for them, since no one has claimed them missing. Does this make any sense?

Murdered guy: Rene van Heyningen. Girlfriend got arrested Missing guy: Sergio Gomez. It's all quiet there. It seems that he does have family on the island.

1,466 posted on 07/03/2005 7:20:39 PM PDT by TexKat (Just because you did not see it or read it, that does not mean it did or did not happen.)

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To: BamaBlue

"normal, run-of-the-mill case"

Lol, Aruba does not appear to be run-of-the-mill.

1,467 posted on 07/03/2005 7:23:03 PM PDT by TexKat (Just because you did not see it or read it, that does not mean it did or did not happen.)

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To: the Deejay

Thx DJ...

1,468 posted on 07/03/2005 7:24:08 PM PDT by Dark Skies

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To: Landry Fan

Well, it is b/c of his statement
he landed in jail.

If someone's only missing....
why give out that advice...?

1,469 posted on 07/03/2005 7:44:01 PM PDT by the Deejay (THE LADY DEEJAY)

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To: Nita Nupress

LOL Thanks. My best friend is Dutch and I hear her talk to her children and and husband in their native tongue all the time. I usually start making gutteral quacking sounds when she is talking just to tease her.

1,470 posted on 07/03/2005 7:46:50 PM PDT by Ditter

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To: the Deejay

Oh, I never heard specifically why they arrested PVDS. I got confused by the timeline. Thanks.

1,471 posted on 07/03/2005 7:51:19 PM PDT by Landry Fan (Happy Birthday, America!)

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To: BamaBlue

This is different. With the attention this is getting someone would talk. Here no one's talking...hence nothing to this.

I read a post here the other day that said that this isn't front page news in Aruba. I don't know if that's accurate but I'm fairly confident that if this case stretches further than the current suspects, those responsible are pretty effective in keeping people silent.

1,472 posted on 07/03/2005 7:55:52 PM PDT by Dolphy

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To: rolling_stone

If I was the VDS's I would be worried about street justice, they are the ones that said "no body no crime" what goes around may yet come around...

Barring Natalee's safe return, we should do everything we can to shutdown the Aruban economy until the Arubans bring them to justice or justice to them.

1,473 posted on 07/03/2005 8:13:22 PM PDT by af_vet_1981

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To: BamaBlue

Here no one's talking...hence nothing to this

Remember how this tropical paradise brags on their low crime rate and a guy is found recently with his throat cut?

1,474 posted on 07/03/2005 8:26:36 PM PDT by daybreakcoming

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To: TexKat

Go, Russ and Dee! Keep blasting that "island paradise" until they turn the screws on "Judge" Van der Sloot and make him talk.

BOYCOTT ARUBA!

1,475 posted on 07/03/2005 8:50:09 PM PDT by Palladin (God Bless America!)

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To: Nita Nupress

"The Yanks really pull all registers open."

Don't we, though??

1,476 posted on 07/03/2005 8:51:09 PM PDT by Yaelle

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To: Fred Nerks

I've had it in fot the Dutch ever since they turned Anne Frank and her family over to the Nazis.

1,477 posted on 07/03/2005 8:52:01 PM PDT by Palladin (God Bless America!)

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To: daybreakcoming

It makes me want to slap that smarmy Ruben Trappenberg silly! He is the biggest liar on the island.

No sharks, indeed. And no murderers either.

What a blowhard he is.

1,478 posted on 07/03/2005 8:53:28 PM PDT by Palladin (God Bless America!)

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To: TexKat

Tonight on Geraldo's show, someone in Aruba said that a very significant part of the evidence that may keep Joran held tomorrow for the next 60 days is the text messaging between Joran and HIS FATHER that night he was with Natalee until late the next morning when she was discovered to be missing.

I don't remember hearing about these text messages. I assumed that the older man didn't text message. Hmmmm.

1,479 posted on 07/03/2005 8:56:26 PM PDT by Yaelle

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To: TexKat

2) Two people who were at the Soul Beach and who work at a surfshop in a surfshop somewhere have not reported for work since NH went missing and can't be found. They have looked for them. Seems they just went up in smoke as well.

This could mean that all the low-level drug dealers are laying low until the Holloway investigation is concluded.

1,480 posted on 07/03/2005 9:02:03 PM PDT by Palladin (God Bless America!)

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