Natalee Holloway - Case Discussion Extended Thread 4

PVDS = Paulus (Paul) van der Sloot (Joran's Father)
AVDS = Anita van der Sloot (Joran's Mother)
JVDS = Joran van der Sloot - 17 year old suspect
DK = Deepak Kalpoe - 21 year old suspect
SK = Satish Kalpoe - 19 year old suspect
MSM = Main Stream Media
Beth or BT = Beth Twitty (Natalee's Mother)
Jug or JT = Jug Twitty (Natalee's Step-Father - married to Beth)
Nat or NH = Natalee Holloway
GVS = Greta Van Susteren (FOX)
VDS = van der Sloot
LE = Law Enforcement
SG or SG's = Security Guards
MJ = Mickey John's (Security Guard)
SC = Steve Croes (Boat Deejay)
CC = Charles Croes (Owns Rental Cell Phone Co)
BOR = Bill O'Reilly (FOX)
NG = Nancy Grace (CNN)
HNN = Headline News Network
CNN = Cable News Network

Transcript: Greta in Aruba
INTERVIEW WITH NADIRA RAMIREZ, SATISH AND DEEPAK KALPOE'S MOTHER
INTERVIEW WITH ANITA VAN DER SLOOT BEFORE PAULUS VAN DER SLOOT IS ARRESTED
INTERVIEW WITH RUFO SOLOGNIER, STEVE CROES' UNCLE
This is a partial transcript from "On the Record," June 23, 2005

Tragic Trip?
This is a partial transcript from "The O'Reilly Factor," June 15, 2005

Some case info to go along with this map...
(as far as I know this is all correct)

B-1 = California Lighthouse - where the boys claim they took her first after leaving the Bar.

D-3 = #4 is the location of the 2 Marriott Hotels - where the 2 brothers (and now Joran) claim they dropped Joran and Natalee off after leaving the lighthouse - the 2 brothers claim they went home to Hooiberg after that.

D-3 = #19 is the location of the Holiday Inn where Natalee was staying.

G-5 = Where the red #2 marker is pointing to is the area that the Carlos & Charlie Bar is located

D-4 = Township of Montana is where Joran lives

F-7/8 = Hooiberg (Haystack Mountain) - The 2 Kalpoe brothers live in this area at the foot of the Haystack Mountian.

C-9 = By the Natural Bridge on the map is the location where the sharks hang out as they are fed at this location. This is the Shark Infested Feeding Area.

E-3 = Wetland in the Bird Sanctuary is the location where they found the Condoms/Condom Wrappers - Duct Tape (looked like black electrical tape to me) - Female Flowered Panties - and a String or Strap from a Bikini or Halter Top.

I am asking that everyone either post just a link to the pictures they wish to share or reduce the size of the picture when you use the img src tag.

This will help greatly for us who are on Dial-up.

Examples

Just a link to a picture like this...(this is the simplest method)
http://www.arubavacationhouse.com/images/arubamap.gif

or reduce this image size like this (you need to know HTML to do it this way)

Just a reminder that...
THIS IS A NO LARGE
PICTURE POSTING THREAD
(please do not post large pictures on the thread - small pictures are fine - as well simple links to the pictures)

This is a discussion thread about the daily occurrences in the Natalee Holloway Case.
It is located in "Chat" on Free Republic
It is not a thread for bashing Natalee - Natalee's Family or Natalee's Friends.
It also is not an ongoing discussion thread for any other cases.

Joran van der Sloot, at left in blue shirt, walks handcuffed with police on Palm Beach, Aruba, Sunday, July 3, 2005. van der Sloot was detained June 11, 2005, in connection with the disappearance of American teen Natalee Holloway who went missing May 30, 2005 on this Dutch Caribbean island. Authorities on Sunday took each of three young men in custody in relation to Holloway's disappearance out separately to various locations on the island as part of the continuing investigation. (AP Photo/Courtesy of Jossy Mansur, Diario)

Aruba suspects escorted to beach

Investigators took the three suspects in the disappearance of American student Natalee Holloway to a beach Sunday morning to check out their accounts of the night the girl was last seen, a government spokesman said.

Police took the three suspects to a stretch of beach near a Marriott hotel in separate sessions between 9 a.m. and 11 a.m., spokesman Ruben Trapenberg said. "Investigators wanted to make sure that their stories matched," he said. The suspects -- Deepak Kalpoe, 21; his brother, Satish, 18; and their friend Joran Van Der Sloot, 17 -- were still being interrogated Sunday afternoon, the spokesman said.

Holloway, 18, was last seen early in the morning of May 30 after leaving a nightclub with the Kalpoe brothers and Van Der Sloot. The Kalpoe brothers and Joran Van Der Sloot initially told prosecutors they dropped Holloway off at the Holiday Inn where she was staying. But police said that story fell apart under questioning.

The Kalpoes'' mother said one of her sons admitted lying to protect Van Der Sloot and said he and his brother took the Dutch youth and Holloway to a beach and dropped them off. Anita Van Der Sloot also said her son changed his story and admitted being alone with Holloway on the beach, saying he left her there because she wanted to stay there.

The Kalpoe brothers and Van Der Sloot have been in police custody since June 9, and a hearing is scheduled early this week to determine whether they can be held an additional 60 days. No formal charges have been filed against any of them, and lawyers for all three have said their clients are innocent.

Holloway, from Mountain Brook, Alabama, an affluent Birmingham suburb, was celebrating her high school graduation with about 100 classmates and several parent chaperones when she disappeared. Several hundred people have been involved in the search, and Dutch marines will dispatch a pair of F-16s outfitted with heat-seeking equipment to aid in the search starting Wednesday, an Aruban government spokesman said. Also scouring the island are Texas search specialists who arrived last weekend. Paul Van Der Sloot, Joran's father, was arrested June 23 but released three days later.

Aruba's chief prosecutor Karin Janssen said the elder Van Der Sloot and his wife interfered in the case by asking a friend of their son who was questioned by police what he had told them. According to Janssen, Van Der Sloot also spoke about the case with his son and the two other suspects "some days after" Holloway was last seen. "They were speaking about the situation that if you don''t have a body, there is no case," Janssen said. When investigators -- who learned about the conversation during their questioning of one of the Kalpoe brothers -- asked Paul Van Der Sloot about the comment, Janssen said the father told them he had only been speaking about such a situation "generally." CNN has tried unsuccessfully to contact Paul Van Der Sloot and his wife, Anita, as well as attorneys representing Paul and Joran Van Der Sloot. Three other individuals -- two security guards and a party boat disc jockey -- also were arrested and later released during the investigation.

Beth Holloway Twitty, mother of missing teen Natalee Holloway, pauses during an interview with the Associated Press as her husband Jug Twitty looks on in Palm Beach, Aruba, Saturday, July 2, 2005. Armed with graceful charm and a gripping story, the 44-year-old speech therapist has played a major role in making her 18-year-old daughter's disappearance one of the most closely watched news stories in the United States for more than a month. (AP Photo/Leslie Mazoch)

Missing Teen's Mom Puts Pressure on Aruba - ABC NEWS

Local Search Team Headed for Aruba

Sunday, July 3, 6:35 p.m.

A search crew from Monroe County is getting ready to head to Aruba to help with the search for a missing teenager.

Members of the Northeast Search and Rescue team were testing out and packing up their gear on Sunday. They'll take off for Aruba later this week to aid in the search for Natalee Holloway. The Alabama teenager disappeared on the island back in May while on a school trip.

The search crew will take sonar equipment, radios and search dogs. Members of the crew say they're happy to help, but they know it will be emotionally difficult.

"It's part of what we do," said crew member Bruce Barton. "We try to give closure to the family, and bring Natalee back home to the U.S. That's the main thing."

Members of the team are volunteers. They hope to get donations to help with the expense of the trip.

Massasauga Search and Rescue Team

I thought you may be interested in what Rudy Croes has been saying in the Dutch press. Sorry for the bad translation, but that's the best I can find. Regardless, I think you'll get the gist of it. ;-)

There are 4 articles. The last 3 are essentially the same but they came from 3 different Dutch publications.

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De Telegraaf
June 28, 2005
'Aruba no criminal broeinest '
Minister of justice Croes disapproves indianenverhalen in American press
ORANJESTAD (Aruba), Tuesday
Almost a month is Aruba already in the spell of the disappearance of Natalee Holloway. Especially by the massive attention of the American press the image of ' one happy Island ' a firm knock has incurred. The vrijlating the day before yesterday of right Paul vanderSloot, that with its zoon of the assassination on Holloway suspicious, has to at the media in the US once more extra agitation it is ensured.
Nevertheless the Arubaanse minister of justice, Rudy Croes believes, still that is especially island permanent damage by the affair, visited by American tourists, will not incur: "We do retrieve everything there to Natalee and the matter to solve. The Americans will realise that eventually nevertheless."
Rudy Croes have it raging very these days. Whereas Dutch profs on steenworp distance on palm beach finish a range football tournament, the minister in neighbour vip-dorp shake the hand of the boasted American talk show host Geraldo. For the especially to Aruba has flown over cover the search to Natalee live. "it is not believe", sighs Croes. "The Yanks really pull all registers open. And because all those television stations want every day bring news, the largest possible nonsense is sometimes presented as a truth. But all indianenverhalen at spite; Aruba is no criminal broeinest!"
The opposite is true, implores the bewindsman. "It goes correct hartstikke well with Aruba. The crime figures - which were already not high - the last has once more further decreased three years. The number of life offences is certainly in comparison with our islands surrounding very small. Curacao have had since 2002 honderdtachtig have killed have had, we in three years still none ten. For this reason it is this way jammer that we are now faced with this drama. Although I can fortunately say that we until now large numbers of still no have had cancellations of American tourists."
Anthem
Croes start then an anthem, which means especially that especially he it during its now largely a year lasting office period has perfectly done on Aruba. More politieblauw have on the street come, a coast radar has been bought, a police force helicopter financed by Aruba himself fights the crime from air and Croes put a separate detection entity to to fight drugs - and arms trafficking. Reality is however something more balanced.
Especially the police force Aruba under control of commissioner Jan Van der Straaten has rockly-hard worked the previous years for more safe making Aruba. But Van der Straaten and also chief public prosecutor Karin Jansen certain no friends of Croes, who try all draw successes continuously to itself, are. The animosity between the top certainly of the arubaanse police force and it Public Prosecution Service on the one hand and Minister Croes on the other side have looked at the beginning of the study into Natalee Holloway after that precious time has lost has gone to internal gekissebis concerning responsibilities.
But according to Rudy Croes all differences have been meanwhile ironed out and are harmoniously cooperated to solving the matter of Holloway. Stands for mutually "there too much on the game at ruzien, already comes there still a study into what in the beginning error has gone", says the Minister of Justice. Clear veertigduizend people on Aruba is right range dependent on tourism. The disappearance of Natalee and the publicity daaromheen cannot result in that which people soon risk runs their get rid of job. But above all I hope of course that the little girl is retrieved. For its parents a this dreadful drama is. We on Aruba will do everything which to people in any case certainty to give concerning the destiny of their for the."
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Utrechts Nieuwsblad
June 29, 2005
Arubaanse minister wants aid the Netherlands at negative image
The arubaanse minister of justice wants Rudy Croes that the Dutch government defends the island at the American authorities.
Also Croes want that The Hague support declares officially to Aruba, because there according to him sytematisch phantom tales appear in the American media concerning the disappearance of Natalee Holloway. Croes said that Monday breakdown-spun after a consultation on Curacao with the ministers Donner (justice) and (kingdom relations) and the antillian justice minister Dick. The bewindsman [Croes] is frightened for the impact which the negative reporting can for American tourism to the island.
On some television senders Aruba is depicted as a criminal island where is gambled in abundance, is dealt and is drunk. Of the police force research also much would not be good.
"The credibility of our legal system is in the lawsuit," Croes find.
On Aruba according to the minister 45,000 people are directly dependent on tourism. Minister Donner promised to raise the matter in a response at the Ministry of Foreign Affairs. "We must look at if we can put right the representation in the press by means of the embassy in Washington."
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Amersfoortse Courant
June 29, 2005
Arubaanse minister wants aid the Netherlands at negative image
The arubaanse minister of justice wants Croes that the Dutch government defends the island at the American authorities.
Also Croes want that The Hague support declares officially to Aruba, because there according to him sytematisch phantom tales appear in the American media concerning the disappearance of Natalee Holloway. Croes said that Monday breakdown-spun after a consultation on Curacao with the ministers Donner (justice) and (kingdom relations) and the antillian justice minister Dick. The bewindsman is frightened for the impact which the negative reporting can for American tourism to the island.
On some television senders Aruba is depicted as a criminal island where is gambled in abundance, is dealt and is drunk. Of the police force research also much would not be good. "the credibility of our legal system is in the lawsuit," Croes find.
On Aruba is according to the minister 45,000 people directly dependent on tourism. Minister Donner promised raise the matter in a response at the Ministry of Foreign Affairs. "we must look at if we can put right the representation in the press by means of the embassy in washington."
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BN/DeStem
June 29, 2005
Nederland helpt Aruba met imago
By Door Jaco van Lambalgen
The Dutch government wants help Aruba improve the image of the island in the United States.
The disappearance of the American little girl Natalee Holloway ' cannot mean that the complete island experiences of it damage yesterday ', explained minister of justice piet hein Donner. Its arubaanse colleague of justice wants Rudy Croes that the Dutch government puts right the picture that in the United States concerning the island threatens arise.
American media conduct a ' total hetze against the Dutch legal system ', thus minister Croes. In the US the media give much attention on the disappearance of Natalee Holloway. The arubanen fear that the tourist industry, the main source of income of the island collapse, as a result. Minister Donner does not think that there at the American authorities some misunderstanding concerning the Dutch legal system exists.
But he and minister Ben bone of foreign affairs is prepared the Dutch involve embassy in washington to correct wrong information on Aruba. The Netherlands looks after also the foreign relations of Aruba, which a ' status shares separate ' but of the kingdom is.

They're worried.

I don't know about you, but I'm getting all warm & fuzzy inside. :-)

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