Natalee Holloway - Case Discussion Extended Thread 4

PVDS = Paulus (Paul) van der Sloot (Joran's Father)
AVDS = Anita van der Sloot (Joran's Mother)
JVDS = Joran van der Sloot - 17 year old suspect
DK = Deepak Kalpoe - 21 year old suspect
SK = Satish Kalpoe - 19 year old suspect
MSM = Main Stream Media
Beth or BT = Beth Twitty (Natalee's Mother)
Jug or JT = Jug Twitty (Natalee's Step-Father - married to Beth)
Nat or NH = Natalee Holloway
GVS = Greta Van Susteren (FOX)
VDS = van der Sloot
LE = Law Enforcement
SG or SG's = Security Guards
MJ = Mickey John's (Security Guard)
SC = Steve Croes (Boat Deejay)
CC = Charles Croes (Owns Rental Cell Phone Co)
BOR = Bill O'Reilly (FOX)
NG = Nancy Grace (CNN)
HNN = Headline News Network
CNN = Cable News Network

Show/Interview Transcripts

Former Aruba Suspect Alleges Plot!
This is a partial transcript from "On the Record," June 28, 2005

Transcript: Greta in Aruba
INTERVIEW WITH NADIRA RAMIREZ, SATISH AND DEEPAK KALPOE'S MOTHER
INTERVIEW WITH ANITA VAN DER SLOOT BEFORE PAULUS VAN DER SLOOT IS ARRESTED
INTERVIEW WITH RUFO SOLOGNIER, STEVE CROES' UNCLE
This is a partial transcript from "On the Record," June 23, 2005

Transcript: Van der Sloots Speak
This is a partial transcript from "On the Record," June 22, 2005

Beth Twitty: 'My Daughter Has Been Kidnapped'
This is a partial transcript from "Hannity & Colmes," June 22, 2005

Natalee's Friends Go 'On the Record'
This is a partial transcript from "On the Record," June 21, 2005

Natalee's Mother Won't Leave Without Her
This is a partial transcript from "On the Record," June 20, 2005

Natalee's Stepfather Holds Out Hope
This is a partial transcript from "On the Record," June 16, 2005

Holloway's Mother: 'My Daughter is Alive'
This is a partial transcript from "On the Record," June 15, 2005

Tragic Trip?
This is a partial transcript from "The O'Reilly Factor," June 15, 2005

Searching for Natalee
This is a partial transcript from "Hannity & Colmes," June 8, 2005

'On the Record' Exclusive
This is a partial transcript from "On the Record," June 7, 2005

Some case info to go along with this map...
(as far as I know this is all correct)

http://www.arubavacationhouse.com/images/arubamap.gif

The Island is 6 to 7 miles deep by about 20 miles long

B-1 = California Lighthouse - where the boys claim they took her first after leaving the Bar.

D-3 = #4 is the location of the 2 Marriott Hotels - where the 2 brothers (and now Joran) claim they dropped Joran and Natalee off after leaving the lighthouse - the 2 brothers claim they went home to Hooiberg after that.

D-3 = #19 is the location of the Holiday Inn where Natalee was staying.

G-5 = Where the red #2 marker is pointing to is the area that the Carlos & Charlie Bar is located

D-4 = Township of Montana is where Joran lives

F-7/8 = Hooiberg (Haystack Mountain) - The 2 Kalpoe brothers live in this area at the foot of the Haystack Mountian.

C-9 = By the Natural Bridge on the map is the location where the sharks hang out as they are fed at this location. This is the Shark Infested Feeding Area.

E-3 = Wetland in the Bird Sanctuary is the location where they found the Condoms/Condom Wrappers - Duct Tape (looked like black electrical tape to me) - Female Flowered Panties - and a String or Strap from a Bikini or Halter Top.

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This will help greatly for us who are on Dial-up.

Examples

Just a link to a picture like this...(this is the simplest method)
http://www.arubavacationhouse.com/images/arubamap.gif

or reduce this image size like this (you need to know HTML to do it this way)

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It is not a thread for bashing Natalee - Natalee's Family or Natalee's Friends.
It also is not an ongoing discussion thread for any other cases.

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Natalee Holloway a wòrdu asesiná ? (2)

UPDATE on F-16's: According to the official communiqué by the ministry of defense the F-16’s will not be stationed on Aruba but on the neighbouring island of Curaçao (about 30 miles away). F-16’s will be refueled in the air by a KDC-10 (see photos of the Dutch KDC-10 performing air refueling here) and are expected to land on Monday afternoon. Hasibokos.com has also received additional information with regard to the equipment onboard the F-16’s. The main (search) equipment is the Mars-pod (Medium Altitude Reconnaissance System) with either a daylight camera or a targeting pod to record infrared images. The targeting pod which includes a laser target indicator and an infrared camera are mounted under the aircraft. The Mars-pod consists of Recon Optical KS-87B daylight cameras with 12 inch lenses (306mm) that are able to record detailed images. Each camera contains a film cassette with which approximately 600 recordings can be made. The recordings will eventually be sent to specialized photo interpreters of the Mobile Processing Unit based at Volkel to be analyzed.

Latest developments in The Netherlands (Saturday) Hasibokos.com has just learned that on Sunday three F-16's of the Royal air Force of the Netherlands will be sent to Aruba to search for Natalee Holloway. This was reported by the ministry of defence today. The F-16’s will fly to Aruba, a trip of about seven thousand kilometres and will be fuelled by a fuel-carrier-airplane with soldiers onboard. The ministry of defence also informed that the F-16’s are equipped with special devices, such as infrared camera’s that can be used to comb the island and take detailed photographs. Once in Aruba there will the authorities will deliberate to decide wehen and how the F-16’s will be set-in.

The Netherlands will initially send a minimum of 6 pilots. Three pilots will fly the F-16’s to Aruba, while 3 others who are trained to use to equipment, will be transported commercially by the KLM. According to our information this is done so that the later will arrive refreshed on the island to carry out the various tasks whenever needed. The three other pilots will then leave for Holland (by commercial plane), leaving the 3 specialized pilots behind in Aruba.

1,161 posted on 07/02/2005 1:24:55 PM PDT by TexKat (Just because you did not see it or read it, that does not mean it did or did not happen.)

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1,162 posted on 07/02/2005 1:29:14 PM PDT by TexKat (Just because you did not see it or read it, that does not mean it did or did not happen.)

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To: auboy

Oh, I didn't think you snapped. You reportede what you heard. I do that all the time. :)

1,163 posted on 07/02/2005 1:32:04 PM PDT by BunnySlippers (••• ••• •••)

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To: Yaelle

I have been thinking about the date rape drugs. While girls usually would just wake up with a headache and not remember what happened the night before what if Natalee had a bad reaction. She may have had an allergic reaction and died. I am speaking as one who has many drug allergies. Also the the boys could have just given her a lethal dose by accident. Then called Joran's father to help dispose of her body.

As far as looking for her on the island I think that is a waste of time, she is in the ocean.

1,164 posted on 07/02/2005 1:45:54 PM PDT by Ditter

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To: Ditter

Oh Ditter, they can dig up every square inch of that island, but still not find her.

But because of finding Shasta today, hope will spring eternal that she is alive. It only benefits the boys being held in custody to think this way.

We have 3 Probable suspects, and I agree... her remains are in the ocean. Just damn.

1,165 posted on 07/02/2005 1:53:15 PM PDT by spectre (Spectre's wife)

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To: Ditter

She may have had an allergic reaction and died.

It was also reported that Natalee was on medication (Beth, I think, said her medication was found in her room with her pasport and belongings). It was never reported what kind of meds she was on, but there could have been a bad (fatal) interaction between rohypnol, alcohol and that medication.

1,166 posted on 07/02/2005 2:04:20 PM PDT by Dark Skies

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To: spectre

Yes, I am afraid she will never be found and the murderers will walk.

1,167 posted on 07/02/2005 2:16:11 PM PDT by Ditter

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To: spectre; Big Jake

Does anyone recognize the male in the lower left hand with his arms around the female?

1,168 posted on 07/02/2005 2:29:34 PM PDT by TexKat (Just because you did not see it or read it, that does not mean it did or did not happen.)

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To: TexKat

I'll take 'liar number five' for 200.00, alex.

1,169 posted on 07/02/2005 2:36:01 PM PDT by monkeywrench (Deut. 27:17 Cursed be he that removeth his neighbor's landmark)

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To: monkeywrench

I'll take 'liar number five' for 200.00, alex.

LOL, I hear you!!

1,170 posted on 07/02/2005 2:41:20 PM PDT by TexKat (Just because you did not see it or read it, that does not mean it did or did not happen.)

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To: TexKat

Hope the FBI knows who the guy in the middle is. He looks more like a ring leader.

1,171 posted on 07/02/2005 2:42:25 PM PDT by alrea (Zogby polls show 47% believe Clintons involved if evidence removed in Vince Foster death.)

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To: TexKat

What is 26 year old Steve Croes doing with a bunch of teenagers and an underage girl?

Wait--don't answer that.

I think they let Croes go Waaaaay too soon.

He is a dirtbag.

1,172 posted on 07/02/2005 2:44:57 PM PDT by Palladin (God Bless America!)

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To: alrea

That's urin's friend jaime, I believe. The columbian.

1,173 posted on 07/02/2005 2:47:52 PM PDT by monkeywrench (Deut. 27:17 Cursed be he that removeth his neighbor's landmark)

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To: Ditter

Absolutely. An allergic reaction, or even vomiting from the alcohol + drugs, and dying from the aspiration. If they've been getting away with these gangbangs for years, they wouldn't know what to do with a dead or dying victim. Call Judge Daddy?

1,174 posted on 07/02/2005 2:55:37 PM PDT by Yaelle

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To: TexKat

He is a friend of Joran. You can view his profile at myspace.com. He is: aruba one happy eiland. Hope this helps.

1,175 posted on 07/02/2005 3:00:43 PM PDT by Li-Li (Induct Roger Maris into the Baseball Hall Of Fame)

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To: Palladin

What is 26 year old Steve Croes doing with a bunch of teenagers and an underage girl?

You think that is Steve Croes? Some on SM says that it is not. If it is SC, hes got some splaining to do since he has said that he does not know JVDS, Deepak or Satish.

1,176 posted on 07/02/2005 3:01:57 PM PDT by TexKat (Just because you did not see it or read it, that does not mean it did or did not happen.)

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To: Li-Li

He is a friend of Joran. You can view his profile at myspace.com. He is: aruba one happy eiland. Hope this helps.

Ah, I have heard that name before.

1,177 posted on 07/02/2005 3:04:26 PM PDT by TexKat (Just because you did not see it or read it, that does not mean it did or did not happen.)

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To: TexKat

Sure looks like him to me.

1,178 posted on 07/02/2005 3:05:17 PM PDT by Sunshine55 (Does Anita van der Sloot suffer from Carolyn Condit syndrome?)

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To: TexKat

Compare ear shape...different guy. Otherwise, might be brothers.

1,179 posted on 07/02/2005 3:23:12 PM PDT by Dark Skies

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To: Nita Nupress; Carolinamom; cajungirl

i am just shocked at the suthreners thinking this way, i thought they were always up for people dropping by and they would offer lemonade and cookies etc. We have Cajungirl inviting people to NYs eve parties, and showing them the door well before midnight, carolinamom shutting the tvs off at 9 pm and telling her guests it is past time for bed, and nita locking the gate and turning the lights out and pretending she isn't home? i am shocked and appalled! ; ) yunz are my kinda people : )

1,180 posted on 07/02/2005 3:35:02 PM PDT by xsmommy

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