Posted on 06/03/2005 2:41:36 PM PDT by SheLion
Highland Park enacted Lake County’s first smoking ban Wednesday, a move local health officials say is something they hope all municipalities will soon consider.
It means all indoor public areas, including restaurants, taxis and places of work, in the city are off limits to smokers. The ordinance was approved by the city council in April.
“The second-hand smoke issue is becoming really big,” said Bill Mays, the county health department’s director of community health services. “Highland Park’s leadership in this regard is an important precedent.”
Health department officials say the action is the most sweeping they’ve seen. That’s due, in part, because Highland Park is one of 20 communities in Illinois that can legally enact smoking bans tougher than state standards.
All that is poised to change if Gov. Rod Blagojevich signs off on a plan that would allow individual municipalities to snuff smoking on their own turf. The plan, in the works for more than a decade, was recently approved by the state legislature and awaits approval from the governor.
However, Highland Park’s smoking ban is not without opposition.
Richard Holleb, owner of Norton’s Restaurant on Sheridan Road, said he had 350 customers sign a petition against the ordinance before it was passed. His restaurants turn into bars at night, where he used to permit smoking once the kitchen closed.
“My guess is that I will lose business,” Holleb said.
For local residents like Simon Pestell, who walked through downtown Highland Park Wednesday with a cigarette in hand, the ban foreshadows what’s to come over time in most cities.
“Personally, I think it’s stupid because restaurants have good ventilation systems now,” he said.
At Rosebud restaurant, general manager John Folinazzo said he knows non-smokers will be happy cigarette and cigar fumes won’t be coming from the bar area anymore.
“In the summer, people can come and sit on the patio to smoke, but the winter is a whole other story,” he said
Highland Park officials were not available for comment.
Mays said he hopes other communities follow Highland Park’s example if the governor enables them to do so.
“It’s an important public health principle,” he said.
...no...I checked our photo albums...it was "Nagle St."
"My boy?" I have checked the link you gave me, which brought me back to this thread. Paulet, I don't see what you mean.
Can you please lead me to the thing he has going on please?
"Oh boy! Another incoherent smoking thread brought to us by SheLion!"
Much like your ability to not enter private property that allows smoking, you also have the freedom to not enter Shelion's threads. However, I can infer from your support of government legislation to ensure private property owner's cater to your preferences, I can only assume you would like Shelion banned from FR.
Learn to exercise your freedoms, instead of supporting fascist actions to ensure others cater to your preferences.
"I have as much right to an opinion as you, even if you don't like my opinions."
So does Shelion, which it seems you would rather label as incoherent instead of expressing your opinions about the message of the article. Your elitist attitude is very prevelant in the bluest of the blue areas of this country. How is the view when looking down your nose?
"Observe pipe and cigar smokers."
Thanks for the insight from your "Queer Eye."
It's not worth wasting time bothering with the lot of them.
You know, CSM. I just post these article. I don't write them. Seems like a lot of anti's in FR think we WRITE this stuff!
Sorry, that would be St. Florien but don't worry about it....
Regarding your posts # 151, 152, 154, 155, 160 and 161:
When you Google searched and found Holy Cross, you should have continued further. Nagle St. still exists, there has been no highway (you didn't specify which highway) run thru it and it is considered the "East side" of Detroit not too far west of I'94, not in Hamtramck........
Be careful disputing my claim of "West" of I-94 because the westerly direction only pertains to the route from the west side of Michigan to Detroit. From there, it veers N.E. and ultimately North so any claim of any streets in Detroit being North of I'94 are actually West of I'94.........
As for last night's anger, I simply took offense to your nonchalant statement that Hamtramck was a "Polish Ghetto" without no further explanation. If you do that to me and blanketly malign the best friends I ever had and their families who were born and raised there, you can rest assured that I am going to stand up for them in their absence!
I offer no apology and stand by my words!
Loser.
This is directed to Hot Tabasco...
I gave you my grandfather's name...he was on the Hamtramck fire department. Their house was torn down...you don't have to obliterate a WHOLE STREET to accomodate a highway!!! DUH!!! I TOLD you my father went to St. Florian. I told you I was born in Women's Hospital.
And Holy Cross IS BETWEEN CAMPAS AND LUMPKIN, YOU TWIT!! SO IS ST. FLORIAN!!! HOLY CROSS IS CLOSER TO THE DESCRIPTION. The streets narrow down, jerk!!!
You are the sickest, angriest, nastiest person I have ever met in my entire life. Your soul is ugly.
I feel the ugly anger when I read your posts.
Please do not post to me again. You are frightening.
And my place in this debate is.............?:o)
I don't know, Squantos...he included you in the response. Sorry if you got caught in the crossfire, LOL!!!
He gives me the creeps. I hope there will never be any contact again.
To, repeat...I am sorry!
Oh my!
I can't believe this whackjob is telling me that my grandparents didn't live in Hamtramck, MI!
I don't know what to do. He is being nasty about it and I finally blew a fuse.
Curious as to why you didn’t identify the hospital by it’s real name, Hutzell Hospital.
Hamtramck was a Polish "ghetto" in those days.
Hamtramck was never a ghetto and still isn’t . Having many friends who lived there and some who still do, on behalf of them for your derogatory statement, I pee on your shoes!
Boy, are you psycho...I LIVED in Hamtramck....
No you didn’t, you are not telling the truth!
My grandparents house was on Nagle St.
Nagle Street is not in Hamtramck, it is on Detroit’s east side. You are not being truthful again!
It was torn down when they put in the highway.
There is no highway thru Nagle St., it still exists as do all the original houses. Once again you are not telling the truth!
I TOLD you my father went to St. Florian.
No you didn’t, re-read your own posts. Again you are telling a fib!
You are the sickest, angriest, nastiest person I have ever met in my entire life. Your soul is ugly.
While you’re at it Paulat, why don’t you add:
You're a mean one, Mr. Hot Tabasco,.
You really are a heel.
You're as cuddly as a cactus,
You're as charming as an eel.
Mr. Tabasco.
You're a bad banana
With a greasy black peel.
You're a monster, Mr. Tabasco.
Your heart's an empty hole.
Your brain is full of spiders,
You've got garlic in your soul.
Mr. Tabasco.
I wouldn't touch you, with a
thirty-nine-and-a-half foot pole.
You're a vile one, Mr. Tabasco.
You have termites in your smile.
You have all the tender sweetness
Of a seasick crocodile.
Mr. Tabascoooooooo.
Given the choice between the two of you
I'd take the seasick crockodile.
You're a foul one, Mr. Tabasco.
You're a nasty, wasty skunk.
Your heart is full of unwashed socks
Your soul is full of gunk.
Mr. Tabasco.
The three words that best describe you,
are, and I quote: "Stink. Stank. Stunk."
You're a rotter, Mr. Tabasco.
You're the king of sinful sots.
Your heart's a dead tomato splot
With moldy purple spots,
Mr. Tabasco.
Your soul is an apalling dump heap overflowing
with the most disgraceful assortment of deplorable rubbish imaginable,
Mangled up in tangled up knots.
You nauseate me, Mr. Tabasco.
With a nauseaus super-naus.
You're a crooked jerky jockey
And you drive a crooked horse.
Mr. Tabascooooooo.
You're a three decker saurkraut and toadstool sandwich
With arsenic sauce.
Paulat, you no longer have any credibility so do yourself and the rest of us smokers a favor and stick to the other threads..........
Good night Paulat, sweet dreams.......
OMG! Is she really lying about that area???? Sure doesn't pay to lie about an area when someone else knows the area well.
She leave a lot to be desired, then!
SheLion...I don't know why I should have to defend my family...but I can't let this nasty-ass have his way. You can see he takes delight in hurting people.
1) When I was born in the hospital in 1956, it was known as "Women's Hospital." It didn't get it's name change until the mid-'60s. It says "Women's Hospital" on my birth certificate.
2) My grandfather was Capt. Frank Tomazewski of the Hamtramck Fire Dept. There is no way I can lie about this. The local has a web page. Ask them yourself.
3) My grandparent's house was at 12009 Nagel St. Hit it up on MapQuest. I have nothing to hide. The City Clerk's Office would have record of it. It was torn down for highway construction. Here's the link to the map:
http://maps.yahoo.com/maps_result?addr=12009+nagle+st.&csz=hamtramck%2C+mi&country=us&new=1&name=&qty=
4) My dad went to St. Florian HS. Again, nothing to hide. He is on the roster.
5) I used "ghetto" in quotation marks. You are too stupid to see I was being ironic. A roughly two-and-a-half-square-mile city composed almost 100% of Polish people (as it was when I lived there) COMPLETELY surrounded by Detroit is even referred to by the city web pages as a Polish "enclave." It is now a mix of predominately Polish and Muslim with some gentrification coming in. I lived there 40 years ago.
Again, Hot Tabasco...you are a nasty little man...and, I repeat, little.
Hutzel Women's Hospital is the second oldest hospital in the city of Detroit. It traces its lineage to the period right after the American Civil War when a group of seven courageous women formed an association in 1868 to provide care for unwed mothers and their infants.
Throughout the late 1800's and early and mid 1900's the hospital became known for its innovative care of women and children, including Detroit's first baby incubator, Michigan's first research laboratory devoted to the "study of women's diseases," and establishment of the nation's first "Mother's Milk Bureau" to ensure a supply of breast milk to infants of non-lactating mothers.
In 1965 the Hospital was renamed Hutzel Women's Hospital in honor of Eleonore L. Hutzel, recognizing her 54 years of service as student, employee and trustee of the Hospital. Since that time the hospital has seen its services grow to include orthopaedics, opthamology, a pain clinic and sleep center.
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