Posted on 11/28/2017 12:09:34 PM PST by ebb tide
😩 no mass in Scripture as practiced today
😩 no rosary in Scripture
😩 no prayers to departed saints in Scripture
Strange that you consider these the most crucial things, when the Apostles did not.
Amen.
Strange that you ignore Scripture:
"[26] But the Paraclete, the Holy Ghost, whom the Father will send in my name, he will teach you all things, and bring all things to your mind, whatsoever I shall have said to you." [John 14:26]
"[30] Many other signs also did Jesus in the sight of his disciples, which are not written in this book." [John 20:30]
"[25] But there are also many other things which Jesus did; which, if they were written every one, the world itself, I think, would not be able to contain the books that should be written." [John 21:25]
I do not ignore a single verse.
That said, there is no verse that is a blank check, that can mean whatever you want it to mean.
By pretending that anything and everything is true, you obliterate the line between truth and falsehood.
Christians must throw their weight on the power of God given us through the Holy Spirit. The rosary, mass and prayer have no power in and of themselves.
Ephesians 3:14-21 For this reason I bow my knees before the Father, from whom every family in heaven and on earth is named, that according to the riches of his glory he may grant you to be strengthened with power through his Spirit in your inner being, so that Christ may dwell in your hearts through faith—that you, being rooted and grounded in love, may have strength to comprehend with all the saints what is the breadth and length and height and depth, and to know the love of Christ that surpasses knowledge, that you may be filled with all the fullness of God.
Now to him who is able to do far more abundantly than all that we ask or think, according to the power at work within us, to him be glory in the church and in Christ Jesus throughout all generations, forever and ever. Amen.
2 Thesselonians 2:11-12 To this end we always pray for you, that our God may make you worthy of his calling and may fulfill every resolve for good and every work of faith by his power, so that the name of our Lord Jesus may be glorified in you, and you in him, according to the grace of our God and the Lord Jesus Christ.
2 Timothy 1:6-12 For this reason I remind you to fan into flame the gift of God, which is in you through the laying on of my hands, for God gave us a spirit not of fear but of power and love and self-control.
Therefore do not be ashamed of the testimony about our Lord, nor of me his prisoner, but share in suffering for the gospel by the power of God, who saved us and called us to a holy calling, not because of our works but because of his own purpose and grace, which he gave us in Christ Jesus before the ages began, and which now has been manifested through the appearing of our Savior Christ Jesus, who abolished death and brought life and immortality to light through the gospel, for which I was appointed a preacher and apostle and teacher, which is why I suffer as I do. But I am not ashamed, for I know whom I have believed, and I am convinced that he is able to guard until that Day what has been entrusted to me.
2 Peter 1:3-4 His divine power has granted to us all things that pertain to life and godliness, through the knowledge of him who called us to his own glory and excellence, by which he has granted to us his precious and very great promises, so that through them you may become partakers of the divine nature, having escaped from the corruption that is in the world because of sinful desire.
Here's John 20:30-31, which includes the WHOLE sentence that John wrote, not just the first half.
John 20:30-31 Now Jesus did many other signs in the presence of the disciples, which are not written in this book; but these are written so that you may believe that Jesus is the Christ, the Son of God, and that by believing you may have life in his name.
All the other stuff that jesus did that was not recorded was not necessary by John's own admission.
The stuff he wrote down was all that is needed to come to a saving knowledge of Jesus Christ.
For that matter, the Gospel of John provides enough information about the gospel to lead someone to salvation.
Roman Catholic are masters at this.
Consider how little Scripture the average Roman Catholic reads/hears in a year and we can understand how they misunderstand the verses in question.
And if only portions of the verses are read at Mass this further dilutes their understanding of the texts.
It's also hilarious that a church that gives Charles Darwin more authority over scriptural interpretation than any church father who has ever lived would call any other religion "modernist."
That said, there is no verse that is a blank check, that can mean whatever you want it to mean.
Much better to read in Hebrew and see what God inspired.
Since I can’t read Hebrew, relying on translation is necessary. Translation itself relies on interpretation.
You’d think if God wanted us to understand all that stuff, he’d have not inflicted multiple languages on us at the Tower of Babel.
“no mass in Scripture as practiced today”
There was no Bible either as we have today.
“no rosary in Scripture”
Most of the prayer’s words are there. There is no “Sinner’s Prayer” or Altar Call, however. And no Sola scriptura or Sola fide (except when rejected by St. James as an error).
“no prayers to departed saints in Scripture”
How many departed saints were there by A.D. 90? Not that many. There were also no Protestants, no Protestant doctrines/heresies and no stupid anti-Catholics posting on the non-existent internet either.
Learn from that.
Yes, but what's not there is what nullifies it. It only takes a little false teaching mixed in with Truth to render it useless.
There is no “Sinner’s Prayer”
"But the tax collector, standing some distance away, was even unwilling to lift up his eyes to heaven, but was beating his breast, saying, 'God, be merciful to me, the sinner!' Luke 18:13 NASB
Sure sounds like a sinner's prayer to me.
or Altar Call, however.
37Now when they heard this, they were pierced to the heart, and said to Peter and the rest of the apostles, “Brethren, what shall we do?” 38Peter said to them, “Repent, and each of you be baptized in the name of Jesus Christ for the forgiveness of your sins; and you will receive the gift of the Holy Spirit. 39“For the promise is for you and your children and for all who are far off, as many as the Lord our God will call to Himself.” 40And with many other words he solemnly testified and kept on exhorting them, saying, “Be saved from this perverse generation!” 41So then, those who had received his word were baptized; and that day there were added about three thousand souls. 42They were continually devoting themselves to the apostles’ teaching and to fellowship, to the breaking of bread and to prayer. Acts 2:37-42 NASB
Sure sounds like an altar call.
What do you base this claim upon?
Do you know the death rates of Christians at this time?
He gave us the Holy Spirit to take care of that issue.
It's not a matter of languages. It's a matter of someone who is spiritually dead not being able to understand spiritual truths because they cannot, they are dead to it.
That person needs to be made spiritually alive to understand spiritual truth and spiritual reality.
But there was the Scripture that was compiled to make the Bible so your argument falls flat. It has no substance or basis because the SCRIPTURE that makes up the Bible WAS in existence.
How do you know? Were you there and doing a head count?
And for this we are condemned, and yet that is exactly what Christ called people to do.
I don't see Him anywhere calling people to follow Peter or some stand in for Him or Peter.
FOLLOW ME
Matthew 4:19 And he said to them, “Follow me, and I will make you fishers of men.”
Matthew 8:22 And Jesus said to him, “Follow me, and leave the dead to bury their own dead.”
Matthew 9:9 As Jesus passed on from there, he saw a man called Matthew sitting at the tax booth, and he said to him, “Follow me.” And he rose and followed him.
Matthew 10:38 And whoever does not take his cross and follow me is not worthy of me.
Matthew 16:24 Then Jesus told his disciples, “If anyone would come after me, let him deny himself and take up his cross and follow me.
Matthew 19:21 Jesus said to him, “If you would be perfect, go, sell what you possess and give to the poor, and you will have treasure in heaven; and come, follow me.”
Mark 1:17 And Jesus said to them, “Follow me, and I will make you become fishers of men.”
Mark 2:14 And as he passed by, he saw Levi the son of Alphaeus sitting at the tax booth, and he said to him, “Follow me.” And he rose and followed him.
Mark 8:34 And calling the crowd to him with his disciples, he said to them, “If anyone would come after me, let him deny himself and take up his cross and follow me.
Mark 10:21 And Jesus, looking at him, loved him, and said to him, “You lack one thing: go, sell all that you have and give to the poor, and you will have treasure in heaven; and come, follow me.”
Luke 5:27 After this he went out and saw a tax collector named Levi, sitting at the tax booth. And he said to him, “Follow me.”
Luke 9:23 And he said to all, “If anyone would come after me, let him deny himself and take up his cross daily and follow me.
Luke 9:59 To another he said, “Follow me.” But he said, “Lord, let me first go and bury my father.”
Luke 18:22 When Jesus heard this, he said to him, “One thing you still lack. Sell all that you have and distribute to the poor, and you will have treasure in heaven; and come, follow me.”
John 1:43 The next day Jesus decided to go to Galilee. He found Philip and said to him, “Follow me.”
John 10:27 My sheep hear my voice, and I know them, and they follow me.
John 12:26 If anyone serves me, he must follow me; and where I am, there will my servant be also. If anyone serves me, the Father will honor him.
John 21:19 And after saying this he said to him, “Follow me.”
John 21:22 Jesus said to him, “If it is my will that he remain until I come, what is that to you? You follow me!”
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