Posted on 11/28/2017 12:09:34 PM PST by ebb tide
Sure vlad.
You’d think if God wanted us to understand all that stuff, he’d have not inflicted multiple languages on us at the Tower of Babel.
He gave us the Holy Spirit to take care of that issue.
And those aren’t suggestions either!
There is a belief among some in Roman Catholicism that you may or may not have the Holy Spirit in contradiction of Ephesians 1:13-14.
Do you take some particularly sardonic delight in trashing non-Catholic Christians that you have to post such filth?
How would you like an article titled “Catholicism, Catechism, and Child Abuse”? Are Protestants really to blame for atheism? Are evangelical Christians to blame for the heresies of churches to which they do not belong? Or, are perhaps, even the best Catholics responsible for the heinous crimes of a few of the clergymen of their Church?
I know what Catholicism is. What is “Protestantism?” Is it being a Protestant? Is it reserved for just some subset of Protestants? Personally, I think it is a term made up to malign anyone who disagrees with certain doctrines of the unrepentant and heretical church that long ago usurped the authority of the church of Rome and of the the whole world.
But I am tired of the never ending debates with Catholics who constantly preach purely Catholic heresy.
I will simply point out, after the author maligns Christians who reject Romish heresies, she proceeds to provide her ideas of a solution, which turns out to be Romish heresies.
Let’s note what is absent here: Jesus. Yes, Jesus is absent in the solution to the problems as espoused by Cardinal Burke and Julia Meloni.
Sure, Jesus is mentioned in passing. By name, only once, in a quote from one “Mabel” whom we will agree is heretical. Why is Marbel the only one speaking in the name of Jesus?
And, yes, Jesus is alluded to in a purely cynical way as the “Eucharistic Lord.” Apparently Jesus is addressed in this very non-Biblical way as to distinguish the Catholic Jesus from the Jesus of non-Catholic Christians. And indeed He is, but not in the way the author thinks.
And, yes, the term “Christ” is used as well. But only for a passing reference to attribute something He said to Him.
Why is this so significant?
Because this very anti-Protestant rant offers no Gospel of Jesus Christ as an answer to the supposed problems. In the place of the true Gospel is Marian “devotion.”
“So let us, said Cardinal Burke, heed Fatima’s call for prayer, penance, and reparation. Let us be ‘agents’ of the triumph of Mary’s Immaculate Heart.”
Tag onto this message a call to the rosary, and a reminder of the supposed message of Fatima, as if there is any substance to this beyond what God already gave in His holy word.
Anti-evangelical Christian screeds seem to be the ONLY thing that certain Catholics can post on the religion forum. It’s all Pope this, Pope that, Mary this, Mary that, rosary this, ad infinitum. But oops, you missed something kind of important:
Jesus is Lord. Everything in the Bible is about Jesus. Not Mary. Not the Pope. Not the Catholic Church. Not even all or some particular Protestant Church.
My Bible says that people need Jesus. Atheists need Jesus. Protestants need Jesus. Catholics need Jesus. Being born into a particular religion, including a Catholic or Protestant Church, exempts anyone from needing to receive Jesus for salvation.
The message that is completely absent in this article is quite simply, the Gospel:
1. Jesus died for our sins,
2. according to the scriptures (substitutionary death prophesied).
3. He was buried.
4. He rose again,
5. according to the scriptures (resurrection prophesied).
6. He was seen alive by hundreds of witnesses (including ALL who ever had or will have apostolic authority).
7. God commands all men, everywhere to repent, and...
8. Believe the Gospel.
I will further point out that, like so many Romish doctrinal heresies, conferring a special title of “Immaculate Heart” exalts Mary rather than (and as opposed to) Jesus, who is Lord of all. His is the name above all other names. It is He who must increase while all others decrease. God alone is Holy, innately. Not Mary. Not Peter. No one but God is Holy. All others who are made holy are holy by virtue of God’s Holiness. Not vice versa. No one’s holiness is contingent upon the holiness of Mary. Her heart is only immaculate in the same sense that all who trust in Jesus for forgiveness of sins receive a new and clean heart. Any other gospel is a false gospel from the pit of hell. And I mean this in the nicest possible sense.
“Being born into a particular religion, including a Catholic or Protestant Church, exempts anyone from needing to receive Jesus for salvation.”
Should have read: Being born into a particular religion, including a Catholic or Protestant Church, exempts no one from needing to receive Jesus for salvation.
Does saying one has the Holy Spirit suffice to prove one does? I wouldn’t want to be in the position of having to determine whether one is with the Holy Spirit or not. But blind acceptance seems to give is Jim Bakers and Robert Tiltons and Jimmy Swaggarts.
Well done.
You will know them by their fruits!
I know a lot of nonbelievers with good ‘fruits.’ The Holy Spirit is not uniquely necessary in that regard.
+1
Not in the circles I run in. That is NOT a teaching I have heard from Evangelical Christianity.
I would conclude that the only ones who claim that are the ones who want to suck you into a cult where they are the sole repository of Truth, because they have special training or insight.
Oh lordy, here we go again on the wild n’ wacky tilt-a-whirl of psychotic Catholic Luther-bashing.
Whee!
WHOA!!!!
PREACH IT, brother!!!
AMEN AND AMEN!!!!!!!!!!
These verses establish that something doesn’t have to be in the Scriptures to be valid.
By their fruits you will know them.
Galatians 5:22-23 But the fruit of the Spirit is love, joy, peace, patience, kindness, goodness, faithfulness, gentleness, self-control; against such things there is no law.
It's not a matter of *being valid*.
It's a matter of being Truth. And those verses do NOT give people license to make stuff up years or centuries after the fact and pass it off as truth.
None of these verses establish that something doesn't have to be in the Scriptures to be valid.
“Yes, but what’s not there is what nullifies it.”
No, actually nothing nullifies it.
“It only takes a little false teaching mixed in with Truth to render it useless.”
Hence, Protestantism is useless then - according to your logic.
“Sure sounds like a sinner’s prayer to me.”
I don’t think even you believe it does. I put it quotes for a reason, and it would be disingenuous for anyone t pretend those quote marks were not there.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sinner%27s_prayer
“Sure sounds like an altar call.”
But it wasn’t and isn’t. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Altar_call
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