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Reformed Apologetics Thoughts of Francis Turretin Blog ^ | April 21, 2009 | Francis Turretin Fan

Posted on 04/22/2015 2:34:02 PM PDT by RnMomof7

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To: boatbums

Which extra-canonical books are the eight which you say are excluded from the Catholic Canon? Are Maccabees 3 and 4 two of them? Respectful question asking that you share your knowledge. God bless you and yours!


441 posted on 04/24/2015 2:07:12 PM PDT by BlackElk (Dean of Discipline: Tomas de Torquemada Gentlemen's Society. Rack 'em Danno!)
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To: RnMomof7

He commanded you to love your neighbors and to love your enemies. You are just causing fights and you know it. You are doing what you want to do, not what God wants you to do.

It is sad that you will continue to do so. God bless you and forgive you.


442 posted on 04/24/2015 2:40:11 PM PDT by Freedom_Is_Not_Free (Lord God help us.)
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To: Freedom_Is_Not_Free; RnMomof7

Is that your own personal interpretation of Scripture?

How do you know it’s right?

Aren’t you judging the motives and intents of RnMom’s heart,which you cannot mind read?

How do you know you’re not making Jesus sad by judging and condemning her?


443 posted on 04/24/2015 2:55:17 PM PDT by metmom (...fixing our eyes on Jesus, the Author and Perfecter of our faith...)
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To: Freedom_Is_Not_Free
>>So you believe that only a tiny fraction of Christians have been anointed with the Holy Spirit, correct?<<

Matthew 22:14 For many are called, but few are chosen.

>>So not a single Catholic in the world has been anointed with the Holy Spirit?<<

Where did you get that nonsense. Of course there are but they don't stay long in that organization.

>>So, are all Protestants so anointed and therefore know the true meaning of Scripture, or only the Episcopalians?<<

Now what does denomination have to do with it? What an odd viewpoint.

>>Just how tiny is your group of Holy Spirit anointed Christians who alone know the Truth while all of the rest of us are lost in ignorance?<<

Interesting that you put yourself in with those who have not been indwelt by the Holy Spirit. I've met Spirit filled Christians who worship in many different groups. God isn't limited by some man made denomination or sect. Stop trying to confine Him to a box.

444 posted on 04/24/2015 3:14:04 PM PDT by CynicalBear (For I decided to know nothing among you except Jesus)
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To: ebb tide; ealgeone
>>But the Prots seem to have a couple thousand different ways themselves.<<

Please list some of the different ways Protestants differ on how to be saved.

445 posted on 04/24/2015 3:20:28 PM PDT by CynicalBear (For I decided to know nothing among you except Jesus)
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To: ebb tide; MamaB
>>Why would anyone ignore John: Chapter 20?<<

Who is ignoring John 20? It's just that we read the rest of scripture also.

Acts 15:8 And God, which knoweth the hearts, bare them witness, giving them the Holy Ghost, even as he did unto us; 9 And put no difference between us and them, purifying their hearts by faith.

446 posted on 04/24/2015 3:25:18 PM PDT by CynicalBear (For I decided to know nothing among you except Jesus)
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To: ebb tide; metmom
>>If you don’t the answer, I feel very, very sorry for you.<<

Can you not answer the question?

447 posted on 04/24/2015 3:28:36 PM PDT by CynicalBear (For I decided to know nothing among you except Jesus)
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To: terycarl; MamaB
>>otherwise, what was the point of renaming Simon Bar-Jona.<<

Maybe because He knew Peter was a movable stone and would deny Him three times and wimp out when eating with Jews. Jesus even said "get behind me Satan" to Peter because Peter was being wishy washy.

448 posted on 04/24/2015 3:35:01 PM PDT by CynicalBear (For I decided to know nothing among you except Jesus)
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To: ebb tide; Iscool
>>I flip them; Luther ripped them.<<

Why are you so obsessed with Luther? I don't see Luther taught here ever. It's what the apostles taught the counts.

449 posted on 04/24/2015 3:37:52 PM PDT by CynicalBear (For I decided to know nothing among you except Jesus)
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To: Freedom_Is_Not_Free
He commanded you to love your neighbors and to love your enemies. You are just causing fights and you know it. You are doing what you want to do, not what God wants you to do.

I think we first need to define love

450 posted on 04/24/2015 3:38:22 PM PDT by RnMomof7
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To: terycarl; Roman_War_Criminal

ROFL!! How many indulgences do they require today?


451 posted on 04/24/2015 3:39:10 PM PDT by CynicalBear (For I decided to know nothing among you except Jesus)
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To: CynicalBear

Probably not based on Catholic precedent.

But I didn’t expect anything else than to have what I say or ask twisted and taken off topic in te form of accusing me of something totally irrelevant.

I still would like an answer to the question from the Catholic perspective.


452 posted on 04/24/2015 3:39:12 PM PDT by metmom (...fixing our eyes on Jesus, the Author and Perfecter of our faith...)
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To: boatbums
Naw, 4 and a 1/2 million years ago? I think it’s closer to 4,750,312 years ago. ;o)

Come to think of it, you are probably closer to the truth. Anyway, it was started before that "other" church, which will remain un named, but the guilty parties know who they are. 😀😃😄😎😆😱😇🙊🙈🙉

453 posted on 04/24/2015 3:48:48 PM PDT by Mark17 (Beyond the sunset, O blissful morning, when with our Savior, Heaven is begun. Earth's toiling ended)
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To: Freedom_Is_Not_Free; WVKayaker
>>His answer? “He is praying to a false Holy Spirt.”<<

Why do you find that so strange? Mormons don't believe in the Jesus of scripture. They don't even believe in the Trinity. They surely can't be asking the Holy Spirit who is part of the triune God of scripture.

454 posted on 04/24/2015 3:49:52 PM PDT by CynicalBear (For I decided to know nothing among you except Jesus)
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To: metmom

Good post!


455 posted on 04/24/2015 3:57:22 PM PDT by BlackElk (Dean of Discipline: Tomas de Torquemada Gentlemen's Society. Rack 'em Danno!)
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To: Freedom_Is_Not_Free; RnMomof7
>>He commanded you to love your neighbors and to love your enemies.<<

Luke 12:51 Do you think that I have come to give peace on earth? No, I tell you, but rather division. 52 For from now on in one house there will be five divided, three against two and two against three. 53 They will be divided, father against son and son against father, mother against daughter and daughter against mother, mother-in-law against her daughter-in-law and daughter-in-law against mother-in-law.”

456 posted on 04/24/2015 3:58:52 PM PDT by CynicalBear (For I decided to know nothing among you except Jesus)
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To: terycarl; CynicalBear; metmom
The Catholic church is the authority on interpreting God's word....every one who reads it is not necessarily able to determine exactly what it means....and that fact is shown on this thread CONSTANTLY.

We are just wondering when they are going to do it..they have had 2,000 years

457 posted on 04/24/2015 4:02:48 PM PDT by RnMomof7
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To: metmom; boatbums; caww; MamaB; RnMomof7
Wrong because that's operating on the assumption that different denominations exist solely because of doctrinal issues and differences in interpretation of Scripture and that is not necessarily the case.

Well then, it looks like different denominations exist, because all these people have unanswered questions, and that if they just got their unanswered questions answered, they would just join the "true" church. The true church, we all know, is the Navigator's church. 😀😃😄😱😆😇😎😅😹

Keep up the good work 👍👌

458 posted on 04/24/2015 4:14:02 PM PDT by Mark17 (Beyond the sunset, O blissful morning, when with our Savior, Heaven is begun. Earth's toiling ended)
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To: CynicalBear; EagleOne; ebb tide
>>But the Prots seem to have a couple thousand different ways themselves.<<

Please list some of the different ways Protestants differ on how to be saved.

Being as I am a former catholic myself, I will add my two cents. True Christians DO NOT differ on the only doctrine that matters, the plan of salvation. There is no way on God's green earth they can differ on that. NO WAY. Differences may come, when they discuss things like pre trib, post trib, soul sleep, and other less important issues, but when it come to Heaven/Hell, there is not even the tiniest margin for error, not even a little bit.

459 posted on 04/24/2015 4:39:28 PM PDT by Mark17 (Beyond the sunset, O blissful morning, when with our Savior, Heaven is begun. Earth's toiling ended)
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To: metmom

I think that the bashing should stop all around and I take the responsibility to admonish fellow Catholics. I do believe that threads such as this may well cause Jesus to weep. He died for our sins, suffering intensely, and yet so many who sincerely follow Him, regardless of denomination, trade bitter words with each other over doctrinal disputes. In the days of the early persecuted Church, pagans observed that you will know the Christians as those who love one another. We need to get back to that if, as I suspect, an age of persecution may soon begin. May God bless you and [protect you in such times to come, my sister in Christ Jesus.


460 posted on 04/24/2015 4:40:57 PM PDT by BlackElk (Dean of Discipline: Tomas de Torquemada Gentlemen's Society. Rack 'em Danno!)
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