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Geneticists expose racism as nonsense-We started off black & brown, we'll all end up black & brown
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Posted on 08/09/2003 8:05:00 PM PDT by chance33_98

Geneticists expose racism as nonsense

Rowan Philp

Gene experts have declared race to be no more than an accident of geography - and predict the future of black and white South Africa will probably be more shades of brown.

Racism is scientifically unfounded, confirmed Professor Trefor Jenkins, Professor Emeritus at Wits University, and Dr Himla Soodyall, director of the Human Genomic Research Unit.

The genetic pool in the country was already so mixed that supremacists had no hope of a pure lineage, they said during a series of workshops at the National Festival of Science, Engineering and Technology in Grahamstown this week.

Soodyall said that, genetically, all modern humans were African - and could be described as either "Africans" or "African exiles".

Her research on the African genome, based on blood tests from more than 1 000 volunteers, showed South Africans from different races shared "recent" blood relatives.

For instance, a quarter of the South African "Europeans" tested had the same individual male ancestor - who lived not more than 30 000 years ago - as a large number of Nama Khoisan people who were tested.

"Given greater social acceptance of mixed marriage in future, we're likely to see a much higher proportion of skin shades lighter than dark and darker than light," Soodyall said.

Her research also found that the majority of all Southern Africa's nine "Bantu-speaking" communities descended from the same man, making most Xhosas and Zulus, for instance, "genetically unusually close ".

She said that gene tests showed that different physical characteristics between cultural groups were the result of adaptations to differing conditions and minor gene mutations.

Jenkins emphasised that modern "race" groups did not evolve separately, as was once widely believed by Western scientists.

He said: "Racism has been shown to have no basis in science... We all started off black and brown, and we'll all end up black and brown."


TOPICS: Miscellaneous
KEYWORDS: archaeology; dna; genetics; ggg; godsgravesglyphs; history; race; racism
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1 posted on 08/09/2003 8:05:00 PM PDT by chance33_98
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To: chance33_98
If they saw me without a shirt, they'd rethink that.
2 posted on 08/09/2003 8:09:36 PM PDT by Paul Atreides
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To: chance33_98
As this probably pertains to America also, it should make the 2010 census very easy.
3 posted on 08/09/2003 8:10:11 PM PDT by xrp
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To: xrp
And, put Jesse out of a job.
4 posted on 08/09/2003 8:15:55 PM PDT by Paul Atreides
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To: chance33_98; Poohbah
Uh oh.

You mean Poohbah is my brotha from anotha mutha? Well, if so, where's that $20 dollars you owe me?

;-)

5 posted on 08/09/2003 8:17:02 PM PDT by rdb3 (I'm not a complete idiot. Several parts are missing.)
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To: chance33_98
Does that mean my offspring will someday obtain a better tan?
6 posted on 08/09/2003 8:22:35 PM PDT by TheSpottedOwl (California is in death throes. If you can't keep her alive...get out of the way!)
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To: chance33_98
Soodyall said that, genetically, all modern humans were African

Oh goody.
Reparations for all!.

7 posted on 08/09/2003 8:25:07 PM PDT by eddie willers (Freeping since before the turn of the century!)
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8 posted on 08/09/2003 8:31:58 PM PDT by yankeedame ("Born with the gift of laughter and a sense that the world was mad.")
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To: chance33_98
I did a couple of web searchs on Human Genomic Research Unit and always came up with MRC.
9 posted on 08/09/2003 8:34:19 PM PDT by yankeedame ("Born with the gift of laughter and a sense that the world was mad.")
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Reparations for all!.


10 posted on 08/09/2003 8:34:53 PM PDT by chance33_98 (http://home.frognet.net/~thowell/haunt/ ---->our ghosty page)
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Thanks for the info!
11 posted on 08/09/2003 8:35:15 PM PDT by chance33_98 (http://home.frognet.net/~thowell/haunt/ ---->our ghosty page)
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To: chance33_98
The Bible places the birthplace of humanity at the Tigris/Euphrates point. Are Middle Easterners considered Brown or Black? If I have a choice between Science and the Bible, I'll take the Bible. It hasn't been proven wrong yet.
12 posted on 08/09/2003 8:36:28 PM PDT by ETERNAL WARMING
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It's a good thing this guy doesn't work in the paint department at Home Depot.
13 posted on 08/09/2003 8:37:05 PM PDT by Old Professer
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To: chance33_98
This sounds a lot like what I hear from my cousin, the fan of the Bahai faith.
14 posted on 08/09/2003 8:37:23 PM PDT by CarmelValleyite
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To: chance33_98
For instance, a quarter of the South African "Europeans" tested had the same individual male ancestor - who lived not more than 30 000 years ago

BS Meter on Red.
15 posted on 08/09/2003 9:02:02 PM PDT by microgood (They will all die......most of them.)
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To: chance33_98
I've seen the future. It's beige.
16 posted on 08/09/2003 9:04:52 PM PDT by null and void
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17 posted on 08/09/2003 9:14:36 PM PDT by mhking
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To: eddie willers
Good point . Lol!

BTY, I don't believe a word in the article. Pure propaganda. The so-called geneticists must have been MK-Ultra trained.
18 posted on 08/09/2003 9:18:51 PM PDT by Dixielander
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To: ETERNAL WARMING
The Bible places the birthplace of humanity at the Tigris/Euphrates point

Mine just says 'Eden', doesn't have a map.

[donningflame-retardant suit] Isn't Exodus just the 'out of Africa' anthropological theory in parable form?

19 posted on 08/09/2003 9:20:52 PM PDT by Virginia-American
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To: chance33_98
If we are all african-american then do we all get reparations?
20 posted on 08/09/2003 9:52:10 PM PDT by honeygrl (I reserve the right to take any statement and copy it out of context.)
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