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Of Lasting Genes And Lost Cities Of Tamil Nadu
Hindustan Times ^ | 1-5-2003 | Papri Sri Raman

Posted on 01/05/2003 4:15:36 PM PST by blam

Of lasting genes and lost cities of Tamil Nadu

Papri Sri Raman (Indo-Asian News Service)
Chennai, January 5

India's East Coast, especially along Tamil Nadu, is increasingly drawing the attention of archaeologists and anthropologists from across the world for its evolutionary and historical secrets.

The focus has sharpened after genetic scientist Spencer Wells found strains of genes in some communities of Tamil Nadu that were present in the early man of Africa.

In the "Journey of Man" aired by the National Geographic channel, Wells says the first wave of migration of early man from Africa took place 60,000 years ago along the continent's east coast to India. Genetic mapping of local populations provided the evidence.

RM Pitchappan, a professor of Madurai Kamaraj University in Tamil Nadu, helped Wells collect the gene evidence from Tamil Nadu's Piramlai Kallar people, inhabiting the Madurai and Usilampatti areas 500 km south of Chennai.

Their genes have the amino acid bands found in the gene map of the original man from Africa.

Says Pitchappan: "The ancestors of the Kallar community may have come into India from the Middle East."

Wells believes there were three waves of migration that early man undertook.

According to him and his Indian collaborator, early man went from Africa to the Middle East, on to Kutch on India's west coast, all the around to the peninsula's east coast and then on to Australia.

Pitchappan, who heads the immunology department at Madurai Kamaraj University, has found that the gene markers M130 seen in man 50,000 years ago and M20 seen in man of 35,000 years ago are present in the Kallars and several other local people of Tamil Nadu.

Some of the markers are common to the Kallars and the Yadava populations of the Saurashtra coast in Gujarat. And the M172 markers found in some Tamil Nadu populations are also found in the people of Pakistan's Balochistan province and M17 in some populations of Central Asians.

"These gene pools are unique and very accurately map the path a population has taken, leaving behind original communities to grow into independent groups but with a common ancestor," explains Pitchappan.

It is not only the study of Wells and Pitchappan that has focused scholars' attention on India. A British marine archaeologist, Graham Hancock, has been examining a submerged city on the East Coast.

Hancock says a civilisation thriving there may predate the Sumerian civilisation of Mesopotamia in present-day Iraq and definitely existed before the Harappan civilisation in India and Pakistan.

Hancock has been excavating the site off the coast of Poompuhar, near Nagapattinam, 400 km south of Chennai.

At a meeting of the Mythic Society in Bangalore in early December, Hancock said underwater explorations in 2001 provided evidence that corroborated Tamil mythological stories of ancient floods.

He said tidal waves of 400 feet or more could have swallowed this flourishing port city any time between 17,000 and 7,000 years ago, the date of the last Ice Age. The Gulf of Cambay was also submerged, taking with it evidence of early man's migration.

The populations Wells and Pitchappan mapped settled on India's East Coast 50,000 to 35,000 years ago and developed into modern man.

According to Hancock, "the Poompuhar underwater site could well provide evidence that it was the cradle of modern civilisation."

Hancock's theory is strengthened by findings of India's National Institute of Oceanography (NIO), which has explored the site since the 1980s. Man-made structures like well rims, horseshoe-shaped building sites are some of the lost city's secrets.

At low tide, some brick structures from the Sangam era are still visible in places like Vanagiri. The region, archaeologists say, has been built over and over again through the ages and some of its past is now being revealed.

Glenn Milne, a British geologist from Durham University, has confirmed Hancock's theory. The American Learning Channel and Britain-based Channel 4 have funded Hancock to make films of the site, in collaboration with the NIO. The areas of archaeological interest are Tranquebar and modern Poompuhar.

The Archaeological Survey of India (ASI) is now beginning excavations in another site, about four kilometres from Pondicherry, in a place called Arikamedu. This was an ancient port town on the banks of the river Ariyankuppam.

Archaeologists Mortimer Wheeler and JM Casal first found artefacts in this area in the 1930s and 1940s, says historian M. Mathew, former head of Pondicherry University's department of history.

Vimala Bagley, a US-based historian, has also done research in the early 1990s on the Pondicherry coast's maritime links with Greco-Roman empires.

The ASI is in the process of acquiring 10 acres of land where the site, now privately owned, lies. The Pondicherry government too is planning to develop the area as a major tourist attraction that can be accessed by boat.


TOPICS: News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: archaeology; arikamedu; catastrophism; cities; genes; ggg; godsgravesglyphs; helixmakemineadouble; history; india; lost; mesopotamia; nadu; nagapattinam; poompuhar; tamil; tamilnadu
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1 posted on 01/05/2003 4:15:36 PM PST by blam
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To: RightWhale; JudyB1938; #3Fan
Divers Find Remains Of Six 'Lost Temples'
2 posted on 01/05/2003 4:18:55 PM PST by blam
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To: blam
Ancient History bump......

They need to do a lot more research on the east coast of India. There seems to be lots of potentialy exciting info to be found in the region.
3 posted on 01/05/2003 4:27:11 PM PST by jimtorr
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To: Cool Guy; pabianice; FreetheSouth!; Piltdown_Woman; Little Bill; Ahban; Light Speed
Lost Civilisation From 7,500 BC Discovered Off Indian Coast

This was found near the Bay Of Kutch.

4 posted on 01/05/2003 4:27:27 PM PST by blam
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Ping.
5 posted on 01/05/2003 4:39:42 PM PST by blam
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To: blam
Graham Hancock gives mainstream archeologists fits. Academia hates him because he has the courage and curiosity to question their "accepted" dogmas and to even prove that those dogmas wrong!

National Geographic has at its website a link to marine archeologists exploring the Black Sea. Very interesting for those who want to know more about it.

6 posted on 01/05/2003 4:44:34 PM PST by goody2shooz
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"Graham Hancock gives mainstream archeologists fits. "

Yup, I know. I didn't know he was a marine archaeologist.

7 posted on 01/05/2003 4:57:54 PM PST by blam
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To: blam
A British marine archaeologist, Graham Hancock

A promotion? Or demotion? Hancock is a journalist. He has been diving lately with archaeologists in several locations, India being one.

8 posted on 01/05/2003 6:27:28 PM PST by RightWhale
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9 posted on 01/05/2003 6:55:15 PM PST by snowstorm12
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To: RightWhale
"Hancock is a journalist. He has been diving lately with archaeologists in several locations, India being one."

Hancock does not get the respect he desires because he is not an archaeologist? He sure gets people thinking though, me included.

The Indus Valley Civilisation At Lothal

10 posted on 01/05/2003 7:08:53 PM PST by blam
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Hancock is a rare bird. An investigative journalist, but with an interest in rooting out the sources of some popular rumors and myths by going to the place and talking with the local people man to man.

For example, his attempt to track down the Ark of the Covenant, although the trail ended indefinitely, brought Ethiopia to life for us, and introduced us to those who are to this day guarding what they believe is the actual Ark.

Now he has become proficient in SCUBA and is reporting on these drowned ruins. We are getting an excellent picture of what is happening in the field thanks to him.

11 posted on 01/05/2003 7:26:21 PM PST by RightWhale
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To: swarthyguy
India in the news ping!
12 posted on 01/05/2003 10:40:36 PM PST by Black Agnes
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To: blam
Interesting. Thanks for the ping. We need to rocket the moon close enough to the earth to gravitationally suck some of the oceans to it to see how many cities are down there. :^)
13 posted on 01/06/2003 8:30:12 PM PST by #3Fan
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To: #3Fan
"We need to rocket the moon close enough to the earth to gravitationally suck some of the oceans to it to see how many cities are down there. :^)"

Ah, leave'm for the folks in the next Ice Age. (By then all traces of us should just about be gone.)

14 posted on 01/06/2003 8:42:46 PM PST by blam
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Ah, leave'm for the folks in the next Ice Age. (By then all traces of us should just about be gone.)

Or buried under a mile of ice like Lake Volstok(sp?).

15 posted on 01/06/2003 10:08:36 PM PST by #3Fan
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To: #3Fan
Oops, add a :^) to that.
16 posted on 01/06/2003 10:09:08 PM PST by #3Fan
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To: blam
Pong!
17 posted on 01/07/2003 8:35:33 AM PST by manna
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"Or buried under a mile of ice like Lake Volstok(sp?)."?

They're trying to figure out how to drill down and sample the lake water without polluting it.

18 posted on 01/07/2003 8:57:13 AM PST by blam
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To: blam
I haven't been hearing much on it lately.
19 posted on 01/07/2003 10:46:32 PM PST by #3Fan
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To: blam; FairOpinion; Ernest_at_the_Beach; SunkenCiv; 24Karet; 3AngelaD; 4ConservativeJustices; ...
blast from the past.
Please FREEPMAIL me if you want on, off, or alter the "Gods, Graves, Glyphs" PING list --
Archaeology/Anthropology/Ancient Cultures/Artifacts/Antiquities, etc.
The GGG Digest
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20 posted on 12/28/2004 5:02:54 PM PST by SunkenCiv (My Sunday Feeling is that Nothing is easy. Goes for the rest of the week too.)
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