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Question re: Cruz/GOPe poaching delegates?

Posted on 04/19/2016 7:48:13 PM PDT by Jim Robinson

I heard Cruz saying tonight that he has "conservative activists" working the delegate to woo them over to his side. Is this true? Isn't it much more likely that the GOPe insiders are working the delegates? They control the party apparatus, not conservative activists.


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To: Zenjitsuman

Ahhh.... aren’t Libertarians for “open borders”?


81 posted on 04/19/2016 8:23:41 PM PDT by House Atreides (TRUMP or CRUZ --- The 1st one to get to 1237 gets the Nomination Brass Ring...PERIOD)
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To: Jim Robinson

Ted Cruz has shown himself to be a weasel hiding in the skirts of the GOPe. No conservatives or representatives of the people are welcome in that country club!


82 posted on 04/19/2016 8:24:54 PM PDT by Steamburg (Other people's money is the only language a politician respects; starve the bastards)
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To: Jim Robinson

I think that the question of “poaching”, even defined at its loosest, is greatly overstated. Most states don’t allow for the possibility of “poaching”.

I was listed as a delegate for Rick Santorum. If he had gotten 20% of the vote in my Congressional District, I would have been a delegate at the RNC in Cleveland.

Period. Full stop. End of story.

I realize that some states don’t work that way, but a large percentage of them do. Any “poaching” is primarily an effort to convince delegates to vote for their guy on the second or succeeding ballots. It’s free speech.


83 posted on 04/19/2016 8:24:58 PM PDT by Engraved-on-His-hands (Conservative 2016!! The Dole, H.W. Bush, McCain, Romney experiment has failed.)
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To: SubMareener

This is outrageous


84 posted on 04/19/2016 8:25:13 PM PDT by lonestar67 (Trump is anti-conservative / Cruz 2016)
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To: JerseyDvl
Dude, dont bother. The guys a troll who solicits money for Ted. A more fervent Cruzlim there never was and is all about chasing GOPe dollars. Another sellout.

Yes, he is!

85 posted on 04/19/2016 8:25:21 PM PDT by teletech
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

As for me, I don’t expect a highly unlikable conservative southern baptist to be able to carry more than one large and about nine small states in a national election.


86 posted on 04/19/2016 8:25:34 PM PDT by Scott from the Left Coast
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To: JBW1949

Suppose so.


87 posted on 04/19/2016 8:25:40 PM PDT by gov_bean_ counter (Donald Trump - Simple solutions for the simple minded...)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Or perhaps Cruz should quit acting like a petulant child looking to cause mischief. Ted’s campaign manager said trump should drop out if he couldn’t get fifty percent in his home state. Perhaps Cruz should take that advice as well


88 posted on 04/19/2016 8:25:52 PM PDT by Nifster (I see puppy dogs in the clouds)
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To: GeaugaRepublican
I am a Utah State delegate who has been receiving calls and emails from prospective to earn my vote for National delegates. After a lengthy discussion with a potential National delegate candidate, i found out that the Cruz campaign or related SuperPacs MAY be paying for mailings, email campaigns and advertising, which costing in the thousands to push forth Cruz loyal delegates. On the ground here, the state delegates running are not as enamored with Ted Cruz as you are led to believe. The Utah Republican “leadership” has no plans to embrace Cruz in the event it goes to a 2nd ballot. That is why Cruz campaign and its Super Pacs are trying desperately to get their delegates selected here and they are willing to pay for it.

Sounds like Cruz is working his tail of to get Cruz loyalist delegates instead of GOPe loyalist delegates.

89 posted on 04/19/2016 8:26:14 PM PDT by FreeReign
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To: Jim Robinson

Makes no difference Jim. It’s over.

Trump vs. Clinton 2016.


90 posted on 04/19/2016 8:26:17 PM PDT by Oldeconomybuyer (The problem with socialism is that you eventually run out of other people's money.)
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To: JayGalt
To: cba123

Can I get you some cheese to go with that whine? Perhaps Mr. Trump should’ve studied the rules or hired someone to do that. If he loses in Cleveland, that’ll be why.

Wasn't this your comment?

91 posted on 04/19/2016 8:26:35 PM PDT by JayGalt
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To: Scott from the Left Coast

I would point out that Trump’s negatives are far greater than that of Cruz. But a congratulations goes out to Trump tonight for a big victory.

And the primaries roll on.


92 posted on 04/19/2016 8:26:56 PM PDT by writer33 (Mark Levin Is The Constitutional Engine Of Conservatism)
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To: Jim Robinson

Polls have consistently shown that very conservative voters are most likely to support Cruz.

Yes conservative activist are working to help Cruz.

We want a conservative candidate


93 posted on 04/19/2016 8:27:41 PM PDT by lonestar67 (Trump is anti-conservative / Cruz 2016)
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To: Redbob; Jim Robinson
Another one who thinks Ted's ego is more important than the future of the Supreme Court.

Obliterating the Democrat nominee starting last week is more important than holding Cruz's hand all the way to the convention to make him feel better about himself.

94 posted on 04/19/2016 8:27:41 PM PDT by kiryandil (.)
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To: lonestar67
You should get a copy of “Jeb! and the Bush Crime Family: The Inside Story of an American Dynasty” by Roger Stone and Saint John Hunt, Feb 16, 2016. It might reset your regard for the Prescott Bush family.
95 posted on 04/19/2016 8:28:25 PM PDT by SubMareener (Save us from Quarterly Freepathons! Become a MONTHLY DONOR!)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Ted said he was going to win delegates in NY. He hasn’t

Ted did not win in the South because of his arrogance that allowed him to think we would automatically vote for him


96 posted on 04/19/2016 8:28:47 PM PDT by Nifster (I see puppy dogs in the clouds)
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To: PrairieDawg

Because the important thing for America is that Cruz stays in the election even though he can’t win?

Because that will give him the best opportunity to damage the front runner and delay the necessary coalescing of the Republican party around the presumptive nominee, the only one mathematically able to reach the delegate count to win the Republican nomination and defeat Clinton?

That is in whose interest, exactly? You sound like a child who says if I can’t have it I’ll destroy it so no one can.


97 posted on 04/19/2016 8:31:11 PM PDT by JayGalt
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To: SubMareener

Roger stone is insane


98 posted on 04/19/2016 8:31:15 PM PDT by lonestar67 (Trump is anti-conservative / Cruz 2016)
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To: SubMareener

The New York Post endorsed Trump. It is naive to think that the Establishment is not working against both Trump and Cruz, but that they prefer Trump.


99 posted on 04/19/2016 8:33:23 PM PDT by RobbyS (```JMJ)
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To: ObamahatesPACoal
You think out of 1000 or 100 delegate wannabes at the intermediate local stages of delegate selection there is only Jebster?

In our third district there were 246 or so delegates at the beginning. This number went down as people left after the national delegate vote. WHen I refered to the one John Ellis Bush guy, I meant at my county party, which lies split between the 2nd and 3rd district. You pretty much only have to know 40 involved people in that case, and the active ones are fewer still. Some counties are bigger, of course, but the Establishment types just don't tend to take the time to go to the monthly meeting, the Mass Meeting, or the District Meeting. They had a presence last year at the state meeting, and I am sure they cut checks to SOMEbody. They just aren't so good on getting qualified bodies to show up and do their bidding. I am no Ron Paul supporter, but he showed how a small committed cadre can make things happen, and they are certainly NOT part of the Establishment. Now, I am speaking for southern Georgia, the delegates from New England, etc. will behave differently, and they have different rules. Few Cruz delegates would be coming from there in any event. Lazy as most Establishment types are, they get lazier still when tehir hearts aren't in it. They just aren't going to get motivated to show up as a faithless-Cruz double agent. The treavhery part is okay with them, but a little too much work, and the Cruz people don't pay like the Romney and John Ellis Bush people do.
100 posted on 04/19/2016 8:33:37 PM PDT by Dr. Sivana ("There is no limit to the amount of good you can do if you don't care who gets the credit."-R.Reagan)
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