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Question re: Cruz/GOPe poaching delegates?

Posted on 04/19/2016 7:48:13 PM PDT by Jim Robinson

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To: Iowa David; Jim Robinson

There are plenty of conservatives that strongly support Donald Trump.

America’s vets and brave warriors overwhelmingly support Donald Trump.

It is a different view of who Ted Cruz really is that has emerged since he allied himself with what he once called the ‘Washington Cartel’. Now it is clear that his convictions about such a cartel were never solid.

Many Trump supporters had chosen Cruz as their second choice but no longer. Many former Cruz supporters have come to the Trump side and vowed to never support Cruz for any position. Most of such persons appear as solid conservatives.

All this was gradually brought about by Cruz’ decision to hire Jeff Roe to run his national campaign and then to partner with the GOPe and the ‘Washington Cartel’. All of it reveals gross hypocrisy.

Trump has owned up to his past, Cruz is creating a present that he may never be able to own up to. When it comes to ‘trust’, Donald Trump is winning.


61 posted on 04/19/2016 8:18:05 PM PDT by Hostage (ARTICLE V)
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To: Balding_Eagle

Sigh. Why should he get out if there’s no guarantee that Trump will have 1237 before Cleveland. Why get out and guarantee Trump wins when he still has a shot at the convention? SMH... Goodnight.


62 posted on 04/19/2016 8:18:43 PM PDT by PrairieDawg
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To: Yosemitest

“Anti-Christ” you say, of Cruz ? You;d better check your Bible, and the demonstrated actions and values of who you’re supporting.

Does the Bible say that you should “Win, no matter what the cost” ?
Does the Bible say “Let the ‘Little People’ lose” ?
Does the Bible say “Never let a ‘perceived wrong’ go” ?
Does the Bible say “You should walk toward your Bride at your Marriage Ceremony thinking ‘It’ll never work because I’m bored already’ “ ?
Does the Bible value ‘Money over Honor’ ?
Does the Bible value ‘Pride’ more than ‘Principles above Party’ “ ?
Does the Bible promote “Bullying your way through” ?

You’d better think again about the Values and Principles that you’re casting your ballot for.

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Fantastic incite! Practically a prophesy in itself! You pegged him: Donald J. Trump is a type of Samson! Get you Bible out and read Judges 13-16. Samson hits almost everyone of you points, including the failed marriage to a foreigner! And talk about, “Never let a ‘perceived wrong’ go”!

Donald Trump is a type of Samson: Doesn’t drink, has wild hair, chases foreign women, gets really upset if the treat him unfairly, really good a slaying Philistines, and brings down the Temple of Dagon.

This is why I say that Donald Trump is a type of Samson:

Judgse 15
3 And Samson said to them, “This time I shall be blameless regarding the Philistines if I harm them!”
4 Then Samson went and caught three hundred foxes; and he took torches, turned the foxes tail to tail, and put a torch between each pair of tails.
5 When he had set the torches on fire, he let the foxes go into the standing grain of the Philistines, and burned up both the shocks and the standing grain, as well as the vineyards and olive groves.

Nelson, Thomas (2009-02-18). Holy Bible, New King James Version (NKJV) (p. 252). Thomas Nelson. Kindle Edition.


63 posted on 04/19/2016 8:18:44 PM PDT by SubMareener (Save us from Quarterly Freepathons! Become a MONTHLY DONOR!)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

“Conservative Southern Baptist Ted Cruz to win ultra-left New York?”

Excuse me, but weren’t you the one that told us last night that Cruz would pick up plenty of delegates tonight. You told us you got some “new” info from Campaign Headquarters.


64 posted on 04/19/2016 8:19:29 PM PDT by MaxistheBest
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To: teletech

Dude, dont bother. The guys a troll who solicits money for Ted. A more fervent Cruzlim there never was and is all about chasing GOPe dollars. Another sellout.


65 posted on 04/19/2016 8:19:33 PM PDT by JerseyDvl (#NeverCruz)
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To: gov_bean_ counter

Depends on how you look at it...


66 posted on 04/19/2016 8:19:49 PM PDT by JBW1949
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To: Slyfox
I think that a lot of people who have never worked a phone bank or volunteered for a campaign have a hard time wrapping their heads around what conservative activists do in a campaign.

Yep. Agreed 100%

67 posted on 04/19/2016 8:19:52 PM PDT by writer33 (Mark Levin Is The Constitutional Engine Of Conservatism)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

14%.

The last poll he was surging above 20%.

I’m sorry, that’s atrocious.


68 posted on 04/19/2016 8:20:19 PM PDT by Lakeshark (One time Cruz supporter who now prefers Trump. Yes, there are good reasons.)
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To: MaxistheBest

He did, my man.


69 posted on 04/19/2016 8:20:21 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet
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To: SubMareener

True that


70 posted on 04/19/2016 8:20:41 PM PDT by Nifster (I see puppy dogs in the clouds)
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To: Redbob
Sorry to see you’re on the wrong side of this one, Jim; one of the two major candidates understands the rules, while the other only understands the media and opportunism, and saying whatever he thinks will get him the most attention on any given day.

How is he on the wrong side of this? If anything, Trump has exposed just how corrupt the nominating system is. If the establishment had deceived and manipulated their way to get their establishment candidate, like McCain and Romney, we would have never seen it first hand. The Dem side is being exposed as well.

CGato

71 posted on 04/19/2016 8:20:58 PM PDT by Conservative Gato
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To: SubMareener

Amen


72 posted on 04/19/2016 8:21:00 PM PDT by reaganaut (Bible Scholars, Theologians and Evangelicals for Trump)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Nonsense ...


73 posted on 04/19/2016 8:21:07 PM PDT by Neu Pragmatist (Levin puts the CON in CONservative..Levin is a big phony -Defeat Cruz/GOPe - Vote Trump)
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To: Jim Robinson

“I heard Cruz saying tonight that he has “conservative activists” working the delegate to woo them over to his side.”

I see it as rhetoric or semantics.
It sounds a lot better than “veteran GOP operatives who know the delegates and how to grease them.”
For example, something we like to eat but maybe not good for us, might be advertised as: “It’s made from real ingredients.”
Or maybe they are real conservatives. Who knows what to believe?

I read today in the Muncie StarPress that Kasich’s people are crowing that they locked up Indiana’s delegates on a second vote.


74 posted on 04/19/2016 8:21:32 PM PDT by tumblindice (America's founding fathers: all armed conservatives.)
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To: musicman
...... Love the pic Jim ...... But my concern would be ..... What happens in the next frame of the comic ... Who Falls .... and Who Rises?

..... We simply do not know who is pulling the strings during this election. It is all an unknown .... there is much at work here that we do not understand! America has been and is still being controlled by Puppet-masters that may actually be pretty darn good at playing the game of political chess and play knowing the "Long Game."....

... What if OPFOR is now playing us... Heck ... If the opposition knows their opponents well ..... Then I pray we know our opponents even better ... Otherwise there will not be many pieces left to play with if this chess game is lost.

75 posted on 04/19/2016 8:21:43 PM PDT by R_Kangel ( "A Nation of Sheep ..... Will Beget ..... a Nation Ruled by Wolves.")
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To: PrairieDawg

Somewhere there is this misguided notion that this nomination is Trump’s nomination. The person that attains 1237 delegates is the nominee. It’s no more simple than that.

If you don’t attain it, you have to take your chances with the delegates at the convention. If this happens and it’s likely, very likely, this won’t be the last time this happens.


76 posted on 04/19/2016 8:22:17 PM PDT by writer33 (Mark Levin Is The Constitutional Engine Of Conservatism)
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To: cba123

Precisely


77 posted on 04/19/2016 8:22:53 PM PDT by Nifster (I see puppy dogs in the clouds)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Trump 89 Kasick 3 Cruz 0


78 posted on 04/19/2016 8:23:16 PM PDT by MaxistheBest
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To: Jim Robinson

Right now Cruz is 350,000 votes behind Trump in New York with 10 percent of the precincts still out.

Cruz anti semitic , anti Italian New York values cost him big time.

He is trailing a guy who can’t even be nominated Kasich.


79 posted on 04/19/2016 8:23:30 PM PDT by Zenjitsuman (Y)
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To: PrairieDawg; cba123
Oh come on! Cruz doesn't need to stand down until Donald has 1237 delagates. And not one MICROSECOND before! Why should he? Because some Trump fans want him to?

Because Ted's ego & the Uniparty red jerseys are risking the future makeup of the Supreme Court.

We could have had this nailed down a month ago, and pivoted to attack the dispirited and disorganized mob on the other side.

Instead, Trump has the anklebiters on him.

Some people seem to believe that Cruz's VERY outside chance at the nomination trumps the importance of the Supreme Court selections.

80 posted on 04/19/2016 8:23:35 PM PDT by kiryandil (.)
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