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Question re: Cruz/GOPe poaching delegates?

Posted on 04/19/2016 7:48:13 PM PDT by Jim Robinson

I heard Cruz saying tonight that he has "conservative activists" working the delegate to woo them over to his side. Is this true? Isn't it much more likely that the GOPe insiders are working the delegates? They control the party apparatus, not conservative activists.


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To: hole_n_one

The lying part that Trump projects is that Cruz has the audacity to expose Trump’s historical actions and statements.

It might be prudent to not count the Trump chickens before they hatch.


21 posted on 04/19/2016 7:58:40 PM PDT by X-spurt (William of Ockham endorses Ted Cruz. 'the one with the fewest assumptions should be selected')
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To: ObamahatesPACoal
I think there are establishment people who claim to be Cruzers to get to the final delegate selection round at the local level.

Hard to do at the county level. There are too many non-Establishment types who go to the meetings and keep tabs on who's who. In our own straw polls, held several times starting last year, there was one firm John Ellis Bush supporter. He's not going anywhere. Earlier we had numbers of Carson, Rubio and even Huckabee supporters. Those of us who went to teh Cruz rallies and sold the tickets knew who was going and who wasn't. Does that make people at this level "insiders"? I suppose. But it doesn't make us Establishment.
22 posted on 04/19/2016 7:58:46 PM PDT by Dr. Sivana ("There is no limit to the amount of good you can do if you don't care who gets the credit."-R.Reagan)
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To: txhurl

Hey genius, according to scripture the AC is wildly loved and POPULAR.
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23 posted on 04/19/2016 7:59:33 PM PDT by SubMareener (Save us from Quarterly Freepathons! Become a MONTHLY DONOR!)
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To: Jim Robinson
I heard Cruz saying tonight that he has "conservative activists" working the delegate to woo them over to his side.

Cruz understands the ground game and he's playing by the rules.

Trump is just now waking up to the fact that steamrolling his way to the nomination is not how the game is played.

FReegards!

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24 posted on 04/19/2016 8:00:22 PM PDT by Agamemnon (Darwinism is the glue that holds liberalism together)
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To: Jim Robinson

The RNC is beholden to Romney who is the money wrangler. As a money guy in league with the Bush network, he is the de facto leader of the GOPe.

RNC has the database of all GOP precinct, county and CD officers and officials. Through surveys, the RNC knows who are solidly in #NeverTrump. This intel is handed off to Romney.

Romney’s #NeverTrump members are dispatched to prepare Trump delegates as Cruz double agents. They also team with Jeff Roe’s network to plot shutouts of Trump supporters and delegates.

Cruz did not say ‘my people’ or ‘my supporters’ or ‘members of my campaign’, but rather ‘conservative activists’. The conservative activists are likely Romney minions.


25 posted on 04/19/2016 8:00:58 PM PDT by Hostage (ARTICLE V)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
14% wasn't all that bad tonight. He's obviously surging.

I guess......

26 posted on 04/19/2016 8:01:51 PM PDT by Lakeshark (One time Cruz supporter who now prefers Trump. Yes, there are good reasons.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Cruz won’t win the election, by gaming the GOP primaries which he can. He just won’t. He does not have a lot of supporters. Gaming primaries won’t win. It just won’t.

Cruz will not win.

He is not a winner. He is a manipulator, and he is being helped by the entire GOPe. He will lose, historically in fact.

I believe he will probably be replaced by the GOP in fact, but that will also result in a failed candidate. The GOP has their strong candidate, right now. Donald Trump.

Ted Cruz needs to stand down. Now.


27 posted on 04/19/2016 8:02:38 PM PDT by cba123 (http://www.census.gov/foreign-trade/balance/c5700.html)
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To: Jim Robinson

Well, if you can’t get votes, I guess the next best thing is to try to steal delegates. That strategy warms Limbaugh’s (that’s not stealing, that’s winning) heart.


28 posted on 04/19/2016 8:03:40 PM PDT by odawg
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To: cba123

OK. If you go play a game of football and lose because the other team knew the rules and you didn’t bother to read them did the other team cheat. Really? This is a tactic by Trump so he can get more airtime for free and some free sympathy from those who aren’t paying attention. IMHO, that is.


29 posted on 04/19/2016 8:04:24 PM PDT by PrairieDawg
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To: hole_n_one

Yep, it’s called “projection”.


30 posted on 04/19/2016 8:04:42 PM PDT by gov_bean_ counter (Donald Trump - Simple solutions for the simple minded...)
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To: cba123

Your opine is solely based on wishful thinking. I opine that is OK because it keeps Trumpies busy patting each other on their backs, while the team is sitting on the 55 yard line.


31 posted on 04/19/2016 8:05:15 PM PDT by X-spurt (William of Ockham endorses Ted Cruz. 'the one with the fewest assumptions should be selected')
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To: Lakeshark

Did you expect Conservative Southern Baptist Ted Cruz to win ultra-left New York? The state where the governor said conservatives aren’t welcome?


32 posted on 04/19/2016 8:05:22 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Do you find “whine” such a winning argument?
It seems to be the only hammer you have and so everything you see looks like a nail.


33 posted on 04/19/2016 8:06:05 PM PDT by JayGalt
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To: JayGalt

I think you’re addressing the wrong poster.


34 posted on 04/19/2016 8:06:49 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet
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To: txhurl

Oh, they’ll take that touché as a compliment.


35 posted on 04/19/2016 8:07:14 PM PDT by X-spurt (William of Ockham endorses Ted Cruz. 'the one with the fewest assumptions should be selected')
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To: SubMareener
"Anti-Christ" you say, of Cruz ? You;d better check your Bible, and the demonstrated actions and values of who you're supporting.
You'd better think again about the Values and Principles that you're casting your ballot for.
36 posted on 04/19/2016 8:07:43 PM PDT by Yosemitest (It's SIMPLE ! ... Fight, ... or Die !)
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To: Jim Robinson

As to who might “control the party apparatus”, that might only be an issue in some of the states in which the delegates are chosen in a more unusual way or in some of the multi-tiered caucus states. In most states the delegates are chosen by a straight vote, and the name of the delegate is listed on the ballot. (Mine was in Tennessee.) Any campaign, large or small, has as much access to those records as the GOP-e. I would imagine that most delegates are strong willed enough to not care about the various arguments either way at this point. If I had been chosen, I would have been interested in listening to what various folks had to say, but I would have still voted according to my personal convictions. (Addendum that I might add: Many are overlooking that many delegates are bound for TWO—even three—rounds of voting, not just one.)


37 posted on 04/19/2016 8:08:07 PM PDT by Engraved-on-His-hands (Conservative 2016!! The Dole, H.W. Bush, McCain, Romney experiment has failed.)
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To: Jim Robinson

I am a Utah State delegate who has been receiving calls and emails from prospective to earn my vote for National delegates. After a lengthy discussion with a potential National delegate candidate, i found out that the Cruz campaign or related SuperPacs MAY be paying for mailings, email campaigns and advertising, which costing in the thousands to push forth Cruz loyal delegates.

On the ground here, the state delegates running are not as enamored with Ted Cruz as you are led to believe. The Utah Republican “leadership” has no plans to embrace Cruz in the event it goes to a 2nd ballot. That is why Cruz campaign and its Super Pacs are trying desperately to get their delegates selected here and they are willing to pay for it.


38 posted on 04/19/2016 8:08:22 PM PDT by GeaugaRepublican (Ted Cruz is the Jr. Senator from Canada.)
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To: PrairieDawg

If you were supposed to play a game of football and you aren’t allowed to put 11 guys on the field and the scorekeeper keeps ringing up points for the other team...What would that be????


39 posted on 04/19/2016 8:08:44 PM PDT by JBW1949
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To: odawg
⇨ Success ⇦ has always occupied the highest position in the Limbaugh pantheon of godly virtues.
40 posted on 04/19/2016 8:09:01 PM PDT by Pelham (Trump/Tsoukalos 2016 - vote the great hair ticket)
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