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Rand Paul is serious about ending mass incarceration ("Expanding welfare for ex-prisoners")
Vox ^ | April 7, 2015 | Dara Lind

Posted on 04/08/2015 2:39:38 AM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet

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To: BobL

True.


21 posted on 04/08/2015 4:46:20 AM PDT by Eagles6 (Valley Forge Redux. If not now, when? If not here, where? If not us then who?)
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To: DB

Exactly. Even if no one is home it does violence to your home and security.


22 posted on 04/08/2015 4:47:59 AM PDT by Eagles6 (Valley Forge Redux. If not now, when? If not here, where? If not us then who?)
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To: elhombrelibre

He is an idiot. No one can fix the black community but the black community. Until they accept the fact that welfare is nothing more than a vote buying scam that THEY bought into and simultaneously destroyed their family structure, nothing will change for them. It’s like a drug addict that can’t be helped until they want to change themselves. These last 6 years has made it impossible for anyone outside the black community to help them with all these fallacious accusations of racism. To change the punishments and records for criminals is only going to hurt the rest of us.


23 posted on 04/08/2015 4:59:00 AM PDT by MagnoliaB
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To: manc

Listen, I don’t agree with everything Rand Paul says or proposes, like with most politicians. I think he is on to something regarding our penal system. What specifically needs to happen to improve it? ....not sure, but at least he is starting the conversation.

To compare him to Hillary, or Obama, is mere histrionics. He isn’t even close.


24 posted on 04/08/2015 5:18:25 AM PDT by Girlene
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To: Girlene

to come out with this statement though only shows he is pandering to blacks for their votes. Not that they will eventually vote for him.
“ I see an America where criminal justice is applied equally and any law that disproportionately incarcerates people of color is repealed.”

So he goes along with the liberals spin of the penal system is racist and those laws which jail blacks shall be repealed.

Sorry but the man is far left.
Paul , Obama and Hillary .

immigration, amnesty, reduced military no leadership in the world, homosexual agenda, they all agree and now calling people on the right Neo Cons is just confirming he should join Hillary


25 posted on 04/08/2015 5:27:21 AM PDT by manc (Marriage =1 man + 1 woman,when they say marriage equality then they should support polygamy)
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To: Rich21IE
I find Rand Paul to be scary. Saw the beginning of his announcement and found his supporters to be scary.

Yes and I can't really say why. I think of him as an atheist and when he said "God" it was like a foreign word to him.

26 posted on 04/08/2015 5:30:25 AM PDT by DungeonMaster (What's good for Christianity might not be good for your 401K)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

I’m sorry...judging by the daily attacks on white citizens by people of darker skin tones, clearly, there’s not nearly enough people in prison.


27 posted on 04/08/2015 5:35:20 AM PDT by driftless2 (For long term happiness, learn how to play the accordion.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Truthfully we do incarcerate too many people. We have too many laws. Almost everything is agains’t the law anymore. The US incarcerates more people than any other country in the world. Its expensive and unnecessary. We need to fix the problem.


28 posted on 04/08/2015 5:41:45 AM PDT by Georgia Girl 2 (The only purpose o f a pistol is to fight your way back to the rifle you should never have dropped.)
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To: Rich21IE

“found his supporters to be scary”

That is a pretty good summation of the situation. Supporters of Paul are indeed scary. The Libertarian mindset is scary. It isn’t necessary the positions they take, but the rationale behind them.


29 posted on 04/08/2015 5:42:59 AM PDT by Sola Veritas (Trying to speak truth - not always with the best grammar or spelling)
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To: ZULU

“but even Paul is better than another DemocRat.”

I strongly disagree. I will not vote for Paul, which is actually a vote for the Libertarian Party. Not ever. He is just as silly as the democrats.


30 posted on 04/08/2015 5:46:29 AM PDT by Sola Veritas (Trying to speak truth - not always with the best grammar or spelling)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
I'm in agreement with most responses on this thread. Rand often goes too far, like his father, on several issues. However, he also brings up some subjects that are important, and would not otherwise be raised. He will also draw a VERY loyal voting bloc, albeit around 4-6 percent. He may also draw more minorities than expected with some of his ideas. He should not be ignored or denigrated.

It would be very wise for a small-government candidate to work with Rand, and get his endorsement, and hopefully the majority of his supporters, at the right time during the primary season. Offering an excellent cabinet position or other support that would help Rand pursue some of his goals (eg getting the fedgov out of punishing legal medical marijuana businesses) should be on Cruz's mind already.

31 posted on 04/08/2015 5:49:56 AM PDT by Teacher317 (We have now sunk to a depth at which restatement of the obvious is the first duty of intelligent men)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

great.. turn all the criminals loose on the streets again, THAT will fix everything!

/s

(good grief, this idiot will get us all killed!)

GO AWAY PAUL!

Cruz or Lose


32 posted on 04/08/2015 5:54:32 AM PDT by TexasFreeper2009 (Obama lied .. the economy died.)
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To: Sola Veritas

You label someone Libertarian, and then pour hate on the label, and refuse to vote in any way that might help that label. Such short-sighted ad hominem thinking is utterly moronic. He raises points that nobody else is. He brings voters that nobody else can. Anyone with half a brain would think about how to work with him, not how to ignore him and anyone else who gets a knee-jerk label in your head.


33 posted on 04/08/2015 5:54:47 AM PDT by Teacher317 (We have now sunk to a depth at which restatement of the obvious is the first duty of intelligent men)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Great—the new way for indolent men to be supported by the government: commit a crime bad enough to send you to prison, but not so bad as to keep you there.


34 posted on 04/08/2015 5:54:56 AM PDT by 9YearLurker
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To: Rich21IE

Frankly, I think his supporters must be stoned. The use of that stuff has destroyed too many of their brain cells.
I agree the guy’s scary.


35 posted on 04/08/2015 6:03:07 AM PDT by conservativejoy (We Can Elect Ted Cruz! Pray Hard, Work Hard, Trust God!)
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To: Theophilus
Anarcho-tyranny:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Samuel_T._Francis#Anarcho-tyranny Sam Francis wrote: What we have in this country today, then, is both anarchy (the failure of the state to enforce the laws) and, at the same time, tyranny – the enforcement of laws by the state for oppressive purposes; the criminalization of the law-abiding and innocent through exorbitant taxation, bureaucratic regulation, the invasion of privacy, and the engineering of social institutions, such as the family and local schools; the imposition of thought control through "sensitivity training" and multiculturalist curricula, "hate crime" laws, gun-control laws that punish or disarm otherwise law-abiding citizens but have no impact on violent criminals who get guns illegally, and a vast labyrinth of other measures. In a word, anarcho-tyranny.

And he also wrote: The laws that are enforced are either those that extend or entrench the power of the state and its allies and internal elites ... or else they are the laws that directly punish those recalcitrant and "pathological" elements in society who insist on behaving according to traditional norms – people who do not like to pay taxes, wear seat belts, or deliver their children to the mind-bending therapists who run the public schools; or the people who own and keep firearms, display or even wear the Confederate flag, put up Christmas trees, spank their children, and quote the Constitution or the Bible – not to mention dissident political figures who actually run for office and try to do something about mass immigration by Third World populations.

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It's about scaring you, the peasant, into supporting the always-expanding Police State.

If they killed off the scary ones, how could they scare you any more?

36 posted on 04/08/2015 6:03:58 AM PDT by kiryandil (Egging the battleship USS Sarah Palin from their little Progressive rowboats...)
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To: Girlene

When even Lindsey Graham says that Paul is to the left of Obama on foreign policy it speaks volumes. He is backing Obamas Iran deal and says were he President military action would be off the table. We can’t afford another President who will not back Israel. He is trying to cut defense aid to Israel even now.


37 posted on 04/08/2015 6:07:49 AM PDT by conservativejoy (We Can Elect Ted Cruz! Pray Hard, Work Hard, Trust God!)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Ted Cruz 2016!


38 posted on 04/08/2015 6:13:55 AM PDT by GodGunsGuts
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To: Sherman Logan

Your point matters. Perhaps a better approach would involve sponsorship and some type of subsidized work. But welfare seems unlikely to allow the former prisoner to become fully independent and autonomous as we would want them to aspire to be.


39 posted on 04/08/2015 6:30:14 AM PDT by elhombrelibre (Against Obama. Against Putin. Pro-freedom. Pro-US Constitution.)
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To: elhombrelibre

Rand Paul IS the nut that fell very close to the tree.


40 posted on 04/08/2015 6:37:46 AM PDT by rockinqsranch ((Dems, Libs, Socialists, call 'em what you will. They ALL have fairies livin' in their trees.))
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