Skip to comments.Professor From Columbia Comes Forward Saying Obama Never Attended the University
Posted on 06/09/2013 9:01:51 AM PDT by ScaniaBoy
My life has crossed paths with President Obama on multiple occasions. According to Obama, we were Columbia University classmates, both Pre Law and Political Science majors in the Class of 83. I also ran against Obama in 2008 on the Libertarian Party Presidential ticket. What are the odds?
But something about the Obama at Columbia story has always bothered me. Earlier in the week right here at The Blaze I wrote about having just returned from New York, where I attended my 30th Columbia University reunion. I celebrated with my esteemed classmates. Everyone except Barack Obama. As usual- he wasnt there. Not a trace. Not a video greeting. Not a letter. I could not find any classmates who knew him.
I called Obama the Ghost of Columbia University. I pointed out (as Ive said in the media for many years now) that Obama may have been registered at Columbia, may have graduated from Columbia, but he was rarely (if ever) seen for the two years in-between. Its a strange, mysterious and frightening story.
Is he the real-life Manchurian Candidate? What explains Obama having just enough skeletal proof that he was there (one photo, one roommate, one professor, one friend) but never seen in a class, never on anyones radar screen, almost invisible. A total 2-year blackout. Its like a story straight out of a novel about the CIA or KGB. He graduated Columbia, but its almost as if he never went there.
To make matters more mysterious, Obamas college records are sealed. Hes had plenty of opportunities to authorize the release, to clear the air. He has never chosen to do so. But why? What has he got to hide? Funny enough Obama has never had a problem ripping open the sealed records of his political opponents. Every step of his career Obama has beaten his opponents by having sealed documents just happen to be publicly exposed by anonymous sources. But not Obama. His records are always unavailable (and never leaked). Obama always seems to have powerful forces on his side.
Did he attend Columbia as a foreign student? That was the educated guess I made in my appearance on Hannity on Fox News a year ago. The only photo of Obama from his Columbia days was in his off-campus apartment with a roommate described by USA Today as a Pakistani national, pot smoker, and cocaine abuser. If youre a foreign student, you live in housing off-campus with other foreign students.
That would also explain how he transferred to Columbia. Transferring into an Ivy League school is all but impossible. I did a little digging and found out only 3 transfer students in all of America were accepted into Columbia in the past academic year. Three students out of 315 million Americans. Yet those who knew Obama at Occidental called him a pot smoker and partier who rarely attended class. Youre telling me that a poor student, with that record, at an average college, was accepted for transfer into prestigious Columbia University? Only if he was an exotic Indonesian foreign student transferring into a college that desperately wanted to claim an ethnically and globally diverse student body.
Still that might explain how Obama got into Columbia. But where was he for those two years? My gut instincts say something is wrong with the Obama at Columbia story. Very wrong. Rancid.
But until now, I was the only one publicly voicing my suspicions. That just changed in a big way. Meet Professor Henry Graff, perhaps the most legendary and honored professor ever at Columbia University. He was THE American History and Diplomatic History professor at Columbia for 46 years. And he is more emphatic than yours truly that there are no Obama footprints at Columbia.
I was put on Professor Graffs trail by another Columbia classmate, skeptical about Obamas story. He told me that Professor Graff had been the speaker for the Class of 53 last weekend at Columbia. My friend was watching Graff answer questions from the crowd when he was asked about Obama at Columbia. Graff said, I have my doubts he ever went here.
I did some digging and located Graffs home phone number. I called him yesterday. Now retired, he was delighted to hear from me. He agreed to go on the record about Obama. Unlike Obama, Professor Graff clearly remembered me. He was thrilled to hear from his former student. I was in several of Graffs classes and he remembered me like it was yesterday. He sounded great- like he hasnt lost any of his trademark sharpness in 30 years since we last met.
I was honored to learn that this legendary historian has been following my political career for many years. But he had no such cheery things to say about the President. Graff said, I taught at Columbia for 46 years. I taught every significant American politician that ever studied at Columbia. I know them all. Im proud of them all. Between American History and Diplomatic History, one way or another, they all had to come through my classes. Not Obama. I never had a student with that name in any of my classes. I never met him, never saw him, never heard of him.
Even more importantly, Professor Graff knew the other history and political science professors. None of the other Columbia professors knew him either said Graff.
Graff concluded our interview by saying, Im very upset by the whole story. I am angry when I hear Obama called the first President of the United States from Columbia University. I dont consider him a Columbia student. I have no idea what he did on the Columbia campus. No one knows him.
There is something wrong with Obamas story- I know that. Many of my classmates at last weekends 30th reunion knew that. Now the most beloved Professor ever at Columbia joins us in publicly questioning the story. Obama is either the ghost of Columbia, or the perfect Manchurian candidate. But something smells rotten at Columbia.
CLicked the link on the above Freedom Post article about The Bridge, the author David Remnick (now it’s all coming back to my memory) was an editor at the NYT so anything in the book would absolutely need to be independently verified.
For what it´s worth:
Do you expect anything from snopes.com other than a weak attempt to spin the Obama narrative so as to “fill in the blanks” of the years of purported Columbia attendance. Wasn’t it snopes.com that first posted an alleged “Certification of Live Birth” to purportedly document Obama’s birth in Honolulu?
Here is a 2011 piece by Jack Cashill on WND relating to the issue of the Columbia years:
“Im of the same era as hussein. We suddenly had a bunch of Iranians show up at our college. The profs were ordered to pass them no matter if they showed up or not. That did a job on the bell curve for the rest of us. Im sure the registrars office can show their enrollment and transcript but by and large, they were NOT on campus. Some might show up for class here and there but the reality of it was just a paper scam. Ive always thought this might be the same scam as the usurper.”
This sounds like the most likely answer for the discrepancies. Elsewhere I’ve heard it asked if he is or isn’t on the Columbia graduation program, but then a scan of that with his name on it was uploaded. So something like what you described seems like the best explanation, quite plausible when you consider he was raised in a Mohammedan country and allowed into Pakistan at a time when supposedly only Mohammedans were let in.
Well, those are some strong points in the Snopes piece. I wonder if Root has ever addressed them.
If I had the money of a Glenn Beck or Limbaugh I would have my own staff detective with a wad of cash to buy info from people in low places. Alas I am but a poor slob....
Oooops, just read your #196.
Please bear with me until I can shake what very well be a non-issue.
My attempt is to distinguish between the name O used in that era and the name current speakers use when referring to him several decades later. It has to do, of course, with the use of foreign student status.
I am on my way out, but will pursue the point in the next few days. The issue being, “What is there in the record that indicates O discarded the name Soetero and formally began to use the name Obama?”
All very strange to me.
Kristen Caldwell Frontline Interview
So yeah, I can picture him as this slightly — “chubby” is too strong, but rounded, short little guy, Barry Obama. And he told us that his father was an Indonesian king and that he was a prince, and after he finished school he was going to go back, and he would be a ruler in Indonesia. And I absolutely believed him.
I understand that he told his fifth-grade class that he was Kenyan royalty, but I never heard that story until years later. My sister and I remember very clearly that he was an Indonesian prince and that he would be going back there. So there was some reference to where he had come from, and the understanding was his family was there.
I didn’t know who he lived with at the time. I since know that it was his grandparents. I knew where he lived, because a lot of times if it rained, my dad would give him a ride home from the tennis courts, because we would hang out after school. In the summers we’d hang out at the tennis courts; after school we would hang out at the tennis courts. That’s what we did. And that’s what Barry did pretty much from fifth through eighth grade. And I think after he leaned up and grew and got into basketball, he shifted away from tennis.
The Indonesian story and stuff, what was your take on that? What do you think he was doing? Why did he need to do that?
I can only imagine now, a 10-year-old leaving his mother and stepfather and at that point I think baby stepsister. So he lived in Hawaii from when he was born until he was 6, lived in Indonesia from 6 to 10. Arriving in Hawaii — again, having not been there — I would think he would have felt very, very fish-out-of-water, very uncomfortable, and like anybody, he’d have to have a little bit of bravado to mask the insecurities. So I think that was the prince story.
You did not read the original post that was pulled for the sake of the integrity of the site.
Stay out of it
Or maybe not. It would be fun to see a fight between student and professor over credibility.
That will make it a proxy war against Obama from foreign leaders.
Thanks for the link to the Cashill article. He is a superb researcher. No wonder Obama needs to spend 80 billion a yr on PRISM. He’s trying to collect dirt on people like Cashill, to shut them up.
Check your dates. There’s a picture of him in school in Hawaii in December 1969 with a kid named Scott in third grade.
He would have been a little over 8 years old in that photo.
Barack "Barry" Obama in 6th grade at Punahou.
Other than the 'enrollment' of Barry Soetoro in an Indonesian school in 1968 that uses the name Soetoro - there's no evidenc what-so-ever he was adopted or that his name was ever Soetoro. As the name Soebarkah was removed from SAD's passport in August 1968, and his name was shown as Barack Hussein Obama 11 at that time...why would we assume he was ever known as Soetoro?
He attended Punahou, according to the images above, as Barry Obama. Not as Soetoro. Although Lolo Soetoro and Stanley Ann Dunham-Soetoro filed joint tax returns IN HAWAII for 1973, only one child (Maya)was claimed as a dependant.
You can write to the person who was interviewed and tell her to check her dates.
In 1969 he wouldn’t have been at Punahou, he would have been at Iolani and she may not have known of him.
To the best of my knowledge his enrollment at Punahou commenced in Grade Five.
Snopes? Really? You can always trust them. LOL!
Shame for posting anything from snopes.
Permanently unavailable and never leakable, because they don't exist. The "ultimate 'seal.'"
The guaranteed abuse of the absurd "privacy" fetish (promoted by the enemies of the Republic) is among our enemies' most powerful weapons.
What do you expect from snopes?
I understand that the Chinese could do that for us.
Reminds me of the story about a schoolgirl who needed satellite images of D.C. an its environs for a school project, and was rebuffed by the NSA, the CIA and NASA.
The Soviet embassy provided them, no problem.
The redhead, all grown up, lives in Steamboat Springs. Lynne and Scott Marr run the Holiday Inn, and Lynne Marr (raised Lynne Schoen) attended fifth through 12th grade with Obama at the Punahou School in Honolulu. Obama, known as "Barry" in those days, played basketball and signed his name with a drawing of an Afro above it, Marr said.
right. and if you scroll down a bit you’ll find my screen name attached to another piece of information in relation to Scott Inoue and 1969.
YOU ARE TELLING ME TO CHECK MY DATES?
The Scott-Inoue story is from 1969, the excerpt I posted was from an interview related to GRADE FIVE. TWO YEARS LATER.
Scott makes it clear that zero was only there for a short time.
Memo to Self: Be careful not to post a reply to anything posted by Fred Nerks. He is quick to anger.
I posted “check your dates” because I remembered seeing the age 8 photo of him in school in Hawaii which contradicted the dates in the excerpt you posted. It turns out you posted the photo. I only wanted you and others to know the Hawaii school years were not kosher.
This is been hashed over a goodly number of times on FR. The facts are that it was difficult for Americans to get a visa, but not impossible. It was listed, IIRC, as "dangerous" for Americans to travel there. Also IIRC it was determined (can't remember how) that Zero never had a US passport before he became a Senator. So if that is factual, what passport did he use before? A different name? From a different country? I don't know.
I just skimmed the Snopes’ piece, I am not the best person to take it apart but will try in a bit.
I just skimmed the Snopes’ piece, I am not the best person to take it apart but will try in a bit.
Interesting that they spell Wayne Allen Root’s name as “Wayne Allyn Root” so they definitely aren’t particular about details.
Yes, another “royalty” story. I assume that very possibly in Indonesia he was told that he did belong to that family, and probably became fluent in Bahasa. No wonder he’s totally nuts.
Thanks. For some reason that brings to mind the various photos of different men all named “Lolo Soetoro”.
Obsessed with racism.
The real problem is that the mythical life of Zero contradicts itself at every turn, and the facts that are both known and made public, often - very often - contradtic the myth, or even seem to sometimes contradict other known bits.
The best thing is to clear one’s mind entirely of the myth and start from scratch, just absorbing the bits that are known, without trying to weave it all together. Hopefully more will turn up/be made public so we will get a clearer picture of his actual life.
Friend and roommate Sohale Siddiqi, whom the Associated Press located and interviewed in May 2008.
Just because he shared an apartment with a Pakistani dope dealer and homosexual (most likely) in NYC doesn't give any evidence he attended Columbia.
Roommate Phil Boerner, who provided his recollections of sharing a New York City apartment with classmate Barack Obama to the Columbia College Today alumni publication and the New York Times in early 2009.
Just because he apparently shared an apartment with someone who attended Columbia is not evidence that Zero attended Columbia, nor does anything written by a leftist in 2009 prove anything at all.
Michael L. Baron, who taught the year-long honors seminar in American Foreign Policy that Barack Obama took during his senior year at Columbia and recalled in an NBC interview Obama's "easily acing" the class and receiving an A for his senior paper on the topic of nuclear negotiations with the Soviet Union.
This is actually funny. Zero is so stupid and writes so badly that the idea of him "acing" a class and getting an "A" for a paper on complex international affairs is ROTFLPIMP's material! So let's see the paper so we can read it for ourselves and judge its merit. ANd none of the other professors remember him.
An article by Barack Obama published in the 10 March 1983 edition of Columbia's Sundial school magazine.
A scanned copy of the article surfaced and is around somewhere; the writing style and content is pathetic commie sloganeering and IIRC the magazine also published articles by non-students. I will have to check and see if I can find more about this. So at the very least it refutes the lie that he got an "A" on a paper about a complex topic.
A January 2005 Columbia College Today profile of Barack Obama as a Columbia alumnus.
He may have gotten a degree, but not attended much or at all. Like the Iranians mentioned in a comment above. Or the article may be lies, already he was being groomed for national politics. Contemporaneous material is what is needed for proof.
A Columbia College press release from November 2008 identifying him as "the first College alumnus to be elected President of the United States."
All I can say about a press release from 2009 is "ROTFLMAOPIMP!!!"
"Breaking The War Mentality" in the Sundial:
If that were true, you would have posted something about that in your comment, but you didn't. You told me to check my dates.
The 'dates' in the article I posted the excerpt from, relate to the period the person being interviewed remembered. She recalled him from Punahou as of Grade Five. If she didn't know him from elementary school in 1969, where he may have attended for a short period, there are no dates to question in her interview.
I followed that comment with another article which also relates to the same period. Another classmate from Grade Five.
Impeachment File on Benghazi Coward B. Hussein Obama, formerly known as Barry Soetoro, a legal citizen of the sovereign Nation of Indonesia.
One little problem with being a legal citizen of Indonseia - can a person beome a legal citizen of a nation if his documents used at the time of becoming a national are false? As in false parentage, name, DOB, place of birth, etc?
The Sultan of Jakarta in Indonesia COULD ALSO BE A HOTEL:
OR THE PALACE:
YOGYAKARTA PALACE (KRATON) A Living Museum of Javanese Culture and The Place Where The King of Jogja Lives
Sorry I snapped at you. It just seems that no matter, even if I provide a source for a comment and no matter how often I post information accompanied by images and links, someone has to over-ride what I have posted, and so often without any source to back it up.
At least you posted a link to The Obama File. A little further down, you would have seen my contibution.
The period Christmas 1969 is an entirely different story. What I posted today was an excerpt from a first-hand account which relates to a period some years later, and is primarilly connected to the story zero tells of being some kind of Indonesian royalty.
“Not a comment about someone being disingenuous, but comments about how crass it is to talk about snot? “
I still think it was an adolescent response.
Can you imagine William F.Buckley Jr. presenting his viewpoint in that manner?
Now that the NINE SUPREMES have ruled 5-4 that police do not need a search warrant to get a DNA sample from ANYONE, it is high time that Sheriff Joe Arpaio got a sample of B. Hussein Obama;s DNA.
“This is been hashed over a goodly number of times on FR. The facts are that it was difficult for Americans to get a visa, but not impossible. It was listed, IIRC, as “dangerous” for Americans to travel there. Also IIRC it was determined (can’t remember how) that Zero never had a US passport before he became a Senator. So if that is factual, what passport did he use before? A different name? From a different country? I don’t know.”
Thanks, sure, I’d like answers to all those questions too, mine, and the ones we both share. I’m sure I can be forgiven for not knowing everything that has been previously ‘hashed over’ here, not having unlimited time to spend on this site. And I’m sure I can be allowed my conditional statements using words like ‘supposedly’ by someone who uses ‘IIRC’ and ‘can’t remember how’.
I can’t believe that there isn’t ONE PATRIOT out there who hasn’t snagged a napkin or drinking cup from the One’s constant campaign touring...think of all the ice cream shops and burger places he has been stopping at...the ‘watchers’ must clean up really carefully after him...
don’t miss this PING
Yup. Obamanation Recich enablers do protect B. Hussein’s DNA.
I know! All that needs to be done is to file a “Freedom Of Information” Request with the IRS!
The IRS will “provide good customer service” by having their Obama”care” Unit of the IRS print out the undocumented alien DNA of Fuehrer AND Chancellor B. Hussein Obama.
A lot of mythology - some totally invented by him out of whole cloth for no reason other than self-aggrandizement, it seems.
Verrrry interesting. Thanks for the ping!
I apologize if I was not very polite; this particular point has been brought up many, many times, and 0bots use it as a way of saying “Aha! You’re wrong, Americans traveling to Pakistan was NOT prohibited, so therefore everything else you say is wrong too!”
There are countless threads on the topic of Zero’s background, some with thousands of comments, and no one can be expected to have read each and every one of them and remembered it all. I started reading them obsessively as soon as they started appearing, but no doubt I missed plenty, and as far as remembering everything - ha, I wish I could remember more, but alas...
Especially I wish I could remember how it was determined that he had not had a US passport before being Senator. About travel being “dangerous”, I used “IIRC” because I am sure that was not the official description; maybe not advised or something similar. Maybe someone else reading the thread will remember better.
I don’t want anyone to feel reluctant to ask questions or make comments on these threads; I just want more info to get out there so more people understand the enigma in the WH.
As for Sultans and Kings and Princes, there's no shortage:
I don’t present myself as any expert on this, because clearly I’m not. I only mentioned it in reference to another’s post about personal observation of Iranian students doing ghost-like collection of degrees in a way that looks similar to what the current occupant of the White House did, and how his Mohammedan connections might explain that.
Whether he was admitted entry to Pakistan on an American or other passport, I’d be interested in knowing, along with whether his entry was eased by having the name he does, or some declaration he made about his religion, regardless of it being on an American or Indonesian passport. Or?