Oh, OK. I was getting the image of Urkel as Obama
and thought you had a negative opinion of Cain.
Sorry.
Posted on 10/15/2011 1:51:20 PM PDT by Jim Robinson
Edited on 10/15/2011 1:54:20 PM PDT by Jim Robinson. [history]
Our purpose and goal on FR is to restore, defend, preserve and protect the Constitution of the United States and to secure the Blessings of Liberty to ourselves and our posterity!!
The goal of the domestic enemy (the left), i.e., the statist liberals, Marxists and progressives is just the opposite.
The goal of the establishment RINO is to gain control of political power, but not to otherwise rock the boat. The boat continues taking on water and listing sharper to port every time the left takes over, but the unprincipled RINOs do absolutely nothing to right her when they get a chance. In fact, the RINOs actually tack on plenty of their own unconstitutional baggage when they're in power and so our ship of state today is in pretty bad shape.
RINO Romney is one of the worst. We can thank him for being the chief architect of ObamaCare, which if we cannot get overturned and repealed, will finally accomplish the left's major objective of shredding the final remnants of our tattered constitution and ending our God-given Liberty forever (they think).
The liberals believe our constitution is a flawed document written in a different time for different circumstances by rich old racist white men and no longer applies to today's circumstances. They're now even trying to promote the idea that the constitution was never intended to limit or restrict the powers of government.
Like hell! That was and is its primary intent! And we who have sworn an oath to defend it, will defend it--from all enemies, foreign and domestic!
And that's FR's purpose and reason for being.
Romney may be a Republican, and that's questionable, because he's violated nearly every plank in the Republican party's official pro-God, pro-Life, pro-Family, pro-Constitution, pro-Liberty platform, but he's definitely no conservative. In fact his record is that of a statist liberal progressive. And he's a total fraud to boot, with a nasty habit of lying--about everything. He'll do and say anything if he thinks it will help him get elected. He's a two-bit, unprincipled political whore.
Here's Romney's record on some of our primary issues of concern compared to Obama's:
| Issue: | Obama | Romney |
| Pro-Abortion | check | check |
| Gun-grabber | check | check |
| Gay rights | check | check |
| Gov forced healthcare | check | check |
| Tax payer funded abortion | check | check |
| Man-made global warming | check | check |
| Liberal judges | check | check |
| Liberal appointees | check | check |
| Ted Kennedy pal | check | check |
| Proven liar | check | check |
| Fraud | check | check |
| Liberal Progressive | check | check |
| Enemy of Reagan/Bush | check | check |
| Enemy of the tea party | check | check |
| Enemy of Liberty | check | check |
| Defender of the Constitution | no | no |
| Conservative | no | no |
| Works across the aisle | no | yes |
| Architect of ObamaCare | no | yes |
| Domestic Enemy | check | check |
| Useful idiot | check | check |
All of the above plus much more is documented in the RomneyTruth files on FR. Click the RomneyTruthFile keyword at the top of the main page. Also watch the "New Romney Campaign Video" also linked at the top of the main page. Watch it all the way through. I even saw some clips I'd never seen before. Pretty damning stuff for anyone running for president as a Republican.
Let's face it folks, the elite establishment RINO corps hates the tea party, hates conservatives, are afraid and even ashamed to have us identify ourselves as Republicans, feel we are dangerous extremist, racist, bigoted bible thumping, gun-toting, flag-waving neanderthals. The tea party is the best thing to happen for America since 1776 and our tea party candidates are the best thing for the GOP since Ronald Reagan, but what do the elite establishment RINOs do? They declare us the enemy! They went after Sarah Palin and some of our other tea party candidates with bared fangs and talons. Karl Rove and company were and continue to be as nasty and shameless on the attack as the nastiest lying liberal. Sarah Palin was the most exciting new face in GOP politics in a century and would have been a landslide 57 state victory over the corrupt, lying Marxist/progressive Obama. But the good ol' boys, i.e., the elite establishment corrupt crony capitalist GOP bastards could have none of that. Instead, they've opted to go all in with a corrupt, lying statist/progressive of their own: Willard (the Rat) Romney.
Well, good luck getting the Rat elected without the committed grassroots, pro-life, pro-constitution conservatives or the majority of the tea party.
FR, for one, will not play that game. NO MORE RINOS!!
No Romney. NOT ON FR!! NOT ON MY WATCH!!
Should Romney be "the one," I'll vote for the down-ticket conservatives on the ballot, but I will not vote for an abortionist, gay-rights pushing, gun-grabbing, global-warming advocating, big government healthcare mandating statist/progressive for president!! I'd rather write-in the name of the tea party conservative who best matches my beliefs. Romney is no 80 percenter. Not even close! He's the backstabbing enemy within.
God bless America!!
Long live the Republic!!
“For seeking a clear establishment of positions?”
I think that Mr. Robinson was pretty clear.
Romney is a pro-abortion, gun grabbing advocate for gay rights that supports the global warming tripe and believes that the government should be able to force me to purchase health-care.
He is no conservative.
My sentiments exactly. I’ve told some if Romney is the nominee, I will only vote for Senate & House candidates and sit out voting for President. I cannot vote for someone who would be a worse nominee than John McLame was.
Do you think having Obama-lite is worse than having Obama?
What really needs to happen are closed primaries, Michigan being one of them. That’s a problem. Supposedly Michigan will vote for Romney ‘cause he’s a home boy.
I prefer Cain, could go with Perry, and don’t want Romney any where near the Presidency. He’s smarmy. I WILL NOT,however, refuse to vote for him at the end of the day if Romney ends up, by some nasty twist of fate, being the candidate. Will not give Obama the satisfaction of a “win.”
And “Slick Mitt” even said he was an Independent during the Reagan era.
Buzz off. See my statements at the top of the thread. I will never vote for that progressive statist baby murdering bastard!! Period!!
GOP RIP!!
Exactly, with the exception of Cheney, very few VPs have had any real influence.
And that sounded great! Except it won’t happen. Perry’s machine includes all the R governors and THEIR machine on top of that.
I spent a few days in Cain fairytailville, I’ve adored him for years as Boortz’ sit-in.
I spent a couple years hoping for Sarah even though I knew that wasn’t going to pan out, either.
I was still warm to Cain until he snuggled up to Mittens and singularly excluded Perry.
RE: Your tagline.
Really? I know some may question his 999 plan. Some may view him as the flavor of the month.
But you despise him that much?
Just Wow.
Because people don't WANT to see it. They are just as blind as they were 3 years ago......
Love you, Jim, and love FR. But Romney is my dead-last choice among viable candidates... except Obama.
Stop Romney and Obama.
We should have learned our lesson from McCain. The Media is not a conservatives friend....Letting them pick our Canidate is stupid. Hopefully the constant drum beat of Romney/Perry are the only choices will not unduly influence voters.
PTL!
I literally pinched my nose when I voted for McCain.
I will not do it again.
If the RINOs force this socialist-lite down our throats, I will vote third party.
I love this site and the last thing I would want is a political pissing match with Jim Robinson over this election. But if you are determined to use Free Republic to actively work to defeat any man who would dethrone Øbama, this is going to be an interesting—albeit lonely place.
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I’d like to say “We’ll miss you”, but - - nah!! We won’t
Our hope is with Cain, or if Myth gets it then I hope Sarah runs on the TEA Party ticket as a third party....
Despise nothing, Urkel was a genius. I loved that show! Are you telling me that Herman is not a bit of a nerd?
With declarations like the original post, you’re absolutely correct. Just like 4 years ago, and just look at America now.
The point is that many, like myself, have been doing that in the real world, which is what matters most and which is not in any way lessened by Free Republic sign up date.
As to respect, I'm not asking for any, simply an absence of maltreatment in the form of pathetic words like "noob" and "newbie"...
...which clearly convey, every time that they are used, that those using them derive their own sense of self-worth from their personal FR sign-up date, clearly indicating a need to compensate for what they lack in the real world.
That said, milt gets my reluctant vote if he manages to get by conservatives and get the nom’.
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And THAT is exactly what the MSM and libs (and Romney) WANT. You are playing right into their hand.
I’m with you on that one Laz. If the Repubs end up having him as the nominee I figure their on their own. If even the Repubs don’t have any more sense than that they deserve whatever they get and we will be here to pick up the pieces.
What you said!!!
That is the problem...they appear to be Perry or Cain supporters but they are Romney supporters. So now I’m being attacked because I am stating what I have been seeing. IF you don’t think we have Romney supporters here disguised as either or then you aren’t aware of the dirty, evil tricks and ways of the Romney campaign. They match how the left operates.
Romney’s motivation is because he believes he is fulfilling a prophecy by Joseph Smith (which was actually about Smith’s run for POTUS in 1844) to save the country. That and it is a stepping stone for godhood. No, I am not kidding.
If Romney is the best the GOP has to offer, then I’m no longer GOP. It’s not that I’ve left the GOP, the GOP has left me. Hope they’re not thinking they need a big turnout.
The error in your logic is that a Romney win will satisfy the country that the Obama agenda has been stopped. Nothing could be further from the truth.
You see, the Obama agenda is actually more than him, he is a puppet for the radical democrat socialist movement.
President Romney will not roll back any of Obama’s “gains”.
All it would mean is that we hold the wheel for 4 or 8 years,,and then the dems continue their interrupted revolution.
But if Romney LOSES, the opposition stays hungry and angry. Maybe they turn their attention to reforming the GOP.
Im no longer a fan of the death of 1000 cuts that the GOP keeps giving me. The game is over,,I will no longer watch the GOP stab me in the back with Crist, Murkowski, Scozzafava, etc. I will no longer be patient as the party leadership openly attacks Sarah,. TEA, and Rand Paul,, and then smiles slyly and says, “well,, you might not like us, but the other guy is even worse”.
If the GOP establishment successfully pushes Romney to the front, they are openly saying that they DO NOT need my vote. That, or that they have no respect for me whatsoever.
Eat your own freakin’ peas Obamney!
Shut up, noob.
Hurry up and post if you’re gonna post... your time is running out...
“they appear to be Perry or Cain supporters but they are Romney supporters.”
But is this something that you KNOW or is this simply your opinion?
“So now I’m being attacked because I am stating what I have been seeing.”
Well to be honest with you, I think you are being attacked for not naming names after making a pretty serious accusation.
Should Romney gain the nomination, we will not vote for him. The GOP knows that we have traditionally held our noses to vote for the lesser of evils but no more. We also will not vote for Olympia Snowe.
He was perfectly clear, and I did not express any disagreement whatsoever with him or with the original post that he made.
My question was to someone who said that they would support Romney in the general election, because in their view Romney was with them 40%.
So I asked that person which 60% of Romney's positions they disagreed with.
Romney is a pro-abortion, gun grabbing advocate for gay rights that supports the global warming tripe and believes that the government should be able to force me to purchase health-care.
I agree 100%. I can't stand Romney.
“He’ll do and say anything if he thinks it will help him get elected. He’s a two-bit, unprincipled political whore. “
If Willard heard you have to be psychedelic to be elected president, he’d already be tie-dyed.
You first.
Do you think having Obama-lite is worse than having Obama?
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They are the same politically. The ‘lite’ is a reference to Mitt being white.
I will not further a man who thinks he is fulfilling prophecy.
Playing the race card makes you all three in my book.
You are not being attacked. You have been asked - repeatedly - to name them.
How is that an 'attack'?
If you can point out ONE closet Romney supporter who claims to be a Cain supporter, I will eat them myself.
I have proven, over and over again, the I value truth above all else. I will not tolerate someone who claims to be my ally in order to undermine my candidate.
So give me a hand here. Who are these people?
You are all 3.
In case you are still laboring under the insane assumption that FR has been overly kind to romney, this thread should disabuse you of that notion in a heartbeat.
Yet you have the nerve to accuse long-time FReepers of being racists.
I would hope you would do the same if you think we may have a Romney supporter amongst us. They seem to be the most disruptive on both Perry and Cain threads.
VIDEO clips of Romney/Kennedy Debates: Liberals For Romney - More Liberal than Ted Kennedy
Before rushing like lemmings to get aboard "The Cain Train", FReepers should really consider where the Cain Train has been, where the Cain Train has made recent stops and what the Cain Train's ultimate destination is.
I know that this is a minority opinion on FR, and so be it, but it is my firm belief that Herman Cain is acting like a stalking horse for Mitt Romney for the reasons listed and backed up below.
1.) All Cain attacks are directed at Perry.
2.) No Cain attacks are directed at Romney.
3.) Cain has stated that he will not support Perry even against Marxist Obama
4.) Cain has said that he is willing to support Romney.
5.) During October, Cain is focusing on selling books on a national book tour instead of focusing on the logistical "Beans & Bullets" needed to win the Primary Wars that will start in the near future.
6.) In my opinion, for the above reasons, Cain's ultimate goal is to become the next conservative premier speaking tour draw and the next Huckabee on FOX News while leaving the GOP nomination to Romney.
Ask yourselves these questions, fellow FReepers:
Which candidate is not building up a campaign war chest (the logistical "Beans & Bullets" of an electoral war) because he is spending October hawking his book instead of paying attention to the logistics of a serious campaign?
Michael Steele to Herman Cain: Get Off the Book Tour
Which candidate has been focusing all of his attacks on Perry while treating Romney with kid gloves?
Which candidate endorsed Mitt Romney in 2008?
While spending October on a national book-signing tour, which candidate is leaving the GOP major donors to be harvested by Mitt Romney?
Romney Rounds Up Backing Among Key G.O.P. Donors
Conservatives are now infatuated by a "Sound Bite Machine" without ever noticing that the candidate is focusing his energies on selling books and marketing himself as a paid speaker rather than focusing on what it takes to fight and win a prolonged electoral war.
A campaign war chest is the "Beans and Bullets" of a serious electoral war. If you want to know if a candidate is truly serious about fighting to win, pay attention to how much attention they are paying to the logistics required to win.
"Amateurs talk about strategy and professionals talk about logistics." .... Omar Bradley
After Cain leaves the battlefield after soon running out of "Beans & Bullets" and leaves Mitt Romney with Cain's support, conservatives will be left with Perry severely wounded by attacks that have come from conservatives themselves.
Perry, like anybody that has actually governed and has an actual governing record for over a decade, is not perfect and never will be. As a debater, Perry is not all that great. But, don't bury Perry too soon because Perry may be the only thing standing between Mitt Romney and the GOP nomination by next Spring.
Can Perry still beat Obama after being gang-mugged by conservatives?
So far, the answer is still, "Yes".
this is going to be an interesting—albeit lonely place.
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Thats what the RudiBots said a few years ago...
Somewhere theres that great thread of Jims with 10,000+ posts ...
Interesting reading...
Lots of zotted lonely RudiBots...
Jims still here...
I have more respect for Obama than I do Romney. Obama wants to destroy the Republic and said so; Romney just wants to be top dog of the planet. If we can't get a man of good character now, we never well. It is time to be brave.
We should all do the same.
It's all there in black and white.
Oh please...they would taste nasty. :o)
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