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Human Evolution Celebration Exposed
CEH ^ | September 24, 2009

Posted on 09/25/2009 8:34:35 AM PDT by GodGunsGuts

Sept 24, 2009 — The evolutionary story of human origins is often told like a cultural myth that is intuitively obvious. Humans emerged in Africa after their ancestors came down from the trees and walked upright. They began to hunt with stone tools and used fire. They migrated north out of Africa and populated Europe, overtaking the Neanderthals who lacked the brain power and culture of their more evolved cousins. How much of this story is based on actual evidence? How much is interpolation of what “must” have happened based on an evolutionary view of natural history?

As part of its celebration of the Darwin Bicentennial, PNAS invited a special series of papers on human evolution, called Out of Africa: Modern Human Origins. A careful reading of these papers reveals more gap than knowledge, more bluffing than evidence...

(Excerpt) Read more at creationsafaris.com ...


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Miscellaneous; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: africa; asia; belongsinreligion; catastrophism; catholic; christian; creation; europe; evolution; godsgravesglyphs; intelligentdesign; judaism; notasciencetopic; propellerbeanie; protestant; science
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To: Alter Kaker

“The first life came from somewhere — it could have formed through naturalistic mechanisms, it could have been zapped into existence ex-nihilo by a deity “

Should these possibilities be put forward as hypotheses in the classroom?


101 posted on 09/25/2009 3:35:47 PM PDT by Mudtiger
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To: Natural Law

You really like to put words in people’s mouths don’t you? Can you show me where I said, or even implied, that anyone’s salvation was dependant on agreeing with my interpretation of scripture? If not, then I see no point to taking the bait on your question.

As for Leviticus, I certainly take that literally. I don’t think that God was telling the Israelites to throw “spiritual” stones at heretics to “spiritually” kill them. Your tone seems to imply that you think a Biblical literalist should advocate stoning for heretics TODAY because of a verse from Leviticus, which leads me to wonder: have you ever heard of the difference between the New Covenant and the Old Covenant?


102 posted on 09/25/2009 3:37:51 PM PDT by Boogieman
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To: P-Marlowe

I was going to say, in fairness, that we don’t know he plagiarized, he might have authored that article in the Catholic Encyclopedia, but he seems to have admitted it. Nice catch.


103 posted on 09/25/2009 3:41:02 PM PDT by Boogieman
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To: P-Marlowe
Although educated in both philosophy and engineering by Catholic institutions I have not claimed to be the expert on all matters scientific. I only hold that science is a creation of God and that to reject it out of hand because of a literalist interpretation of Scripture is to reject the omnipotence of God. My questions are probative and my methods Socratean. I would refer you to my post (48) in this thread.
104 posted on 09/25/2009 3:50:29 PM PDT by Natural Law
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To: Boogieman
"Can you show me where I said, or even implied, that anyone’s salvation was dependent on agreeing with my interpretation of scripture?"

You insist that all who would believe that there is an alternative or a supplement to the Adam and Eve narrative are wrong and not in communion with God and the saints, but reserve for yourself the right to make common sense adjustments to other areas of scripture. Sounds pretty much like what you said.

105 posted on 09/25/2009 3:56:27 PM PDT by Natural Law
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To: P-Marlowe

Ouch...that has to smart!!!


106 posted on 09/25/2009 4:05:04 PM PDT by GodGunsGuts
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To: Natural Law

I said no such thing sir, you seem to be reading what you want into my arguments. I believe I said “it seemed silly to me” for a Christian who believes in the Bible to try to reconcile the perfect narrative of the Holy Word with a naturalistic explanation for the development of life on Earth which is specifically formulated in a way that does not allow the involvement of a deity to be taken into account. I think that saying something seems silly, in my personal opinion, is a far cry from condemning someone to eternal damnation!


107 posted on 09/25/2009 4:14:32 PM PDT by Boogieman
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To: Natural Law

Science is a creation of God? As far as I can tell, it’s the creation of men, quite like other endeavors such as philosophy, theatre, or politics. Perhaps you mean that the objects that science studies and seeks to explain (ie, natural phenomena) are the creation of God?


108 posted on 09/25/2009 4:18:21 PM PDT by Boogieman
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To: Boogieman

is religion a creation of men?


109 posted on 09/25/2009 4:55:45 PM PDT by oldschoolcoach (Always remember that you're unique. Just like everyone else.)
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To: oldschoolcoach

Nice question! I guess my answer depends on which definition of religion you are referring to. If you mean simply the practice of worshipping a deity, then I would say perhaps not, since I believe the angels worshipped God before man was created. The Bible shows the worship in the 2nd generation of men, with Cain and Abel bringing offerings to God, but that story doesn’t explain where the practice originated, if this was the first occurence, or if it was initiated by man or instructed by God, who still seemed to be in pretty frequent direct communication with men at that time. I am of the opinion that God probably instructed it, since he is a fair God, and it seems unfair to pronounce judgement on Cain for his offering, unless it violated a commandment that Cain was surely aware of.

Now, if you are referring to all of the various sects and cults we see in the world, I think that yes, these are inventions of man, or perhaps more accurately inventions of men inspired by the devil. From my reading of the Bible and study of history and pagan religions, I’ve come to conclusion that Satan and his fallen followers had a hand in shaping these endeavors of man from the beginning, though I think Nimrod was probably the ultimate progenitor amongst men of all of these various cultish belief systems.


110 posted on 09/25/2009 5:24:01 PM PDT by Boogieman
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To: Natural Law; Boogieman; GodGunsGuts; GourmetDan; xzins; Alamo-Girl; betty boop
I only hold that science is a creation of God

Wrongo, my FRiend. Science is not a "creation of God."

Science is the study of the creation of God.

The scientific method is the creation of man.

When that method denies or outright refuses to recognize or even consider the creator's hand in creation, it ceases to be Science.

111 posted on 09/25/2009 5:30:38 PM PDT by P-Marlowe (LPFOKETT GAHCOEEP-w/o*)
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To: GodGunsGuts
Kool-Aid Man says:

"Whenever I need a straight shot of the real stuff

I always rely on Creation Evolution Headlines.

Their stuff kills me!"


112 posted on 09/25/2009 5:56:37 PM PDT by DoctorMichael (Creationism: Conservatism's crazy-Uncle-in-the-attic.)
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To: P-Marlowe; Natural Law; Boogieman; GourmetDan; xzins; Alamo-Girl; betty boop; Agamemnon; ...
==The scientific method is the creation of man.

I thought the following excerpt from Agamemnon to a poster on another thread might help shed light on this timely and important subject :o)

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But speaking of his unction for presumption maybe if he'd like to comment on the presumed wonders of what passes for accuracy and credibility in today's "peer reviewed" literature, he'd like to start here with this "peer-reviewed journal" entry:

"Why Most Published Research Findings Are False" PLoS Med 2(8): e124. doi:10.1371/journal.pmed.0020124, August 5, 2005.

If that version is too difficult for him to digest, or he finds it "too scary," the puréed peas and baby carrots version may be found here:

"Why Most Published Research Findings Are False" New Scientist 30 August 2005, Kurt Kleiner

Whack-a-way!

113 posted on 09/25/2009 6:04:03 PM PDT by GodGunsGuts
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To: DoctorMichael

But the Temple of Darwin faithful were
not interested in science, and continued their
worship services as though nothing had changed:


114 posted on 09/25/2009 6:32:05 PM PDT by GodGunsGuts
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To: DungeonMaster
Evolution = global warming = Godless Liberalism = population control = communism = earth worship.

counter example: Kent "dr Dino" Hovind.

ergo: Anti-Darwinism = Protocols of the Elders of Zion = 9/11 Truthers = tax evasion.

115 posted on 09/25/2009 6:36:05 PM PDT by Oztrich Boy (Hello, Mr. President we honor you today For all your great accomplishments, we all doth say "hooray!)
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To: Natural Law; Boogieman; metmom; GodGunsGuts
Not being a literalist I have a hard time understanding where those who can arbitrarily apply their own threshold for literalcy, but denounce as heretics anyone whose threshold differs. How do you determine that deviation from the text is OK when reaching a logical conclusion that Jesus was not an actual Lamb or that the sun didn't actually rise, but advocate stoning those who don't believe that creation took place in six 24 hour days?

Fascinating! We see, (on 9-11 no less)...the "Christian taliban" drivel, and now: "stoning those who don't believe that creation took place in six 24 hour days"?

116 posted on 09/25/2009 6:54:31 PM PDT by tpanther (Science was, is and will forever be a small subset of God's creation.)
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To: GodGunsGuts

But I thought “science” was self correcting and that errors are exposed by the diligence of the scientific community.

In place of “Once upon a time..”, now it’s “A new study says...”.


117 posted on 09/25/2009 7:00:09 PM PDT by count-your-change (You don't have be brilliant, not being stupid is enough.)
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To: tpanther; Natural Law; metmom; Boogieman; P-Marlowe

Don’t forget about the plagiarism! This guys credibility is completely shot as far as I’m concerned.

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/2348126/posts?page=91#96


118 posted on 09/25/2009 7:21:40 PM PDT by GodGunsGuts
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To: P-Marlowe

Okay then one of God’s creations includes the small pox virus. A scourge causing a horrific painful death. Thanks to man (ie evil scientists) small pox can be cured. So who gets the glory? God who created small pox or the scientists who found a cure?


119 posted on 09/25/2009 7:31:13 PM PDT by Hound of the Baskervilles ("Nonsense in the intellect draws evil after it." C.S. Lewis)
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To: Hound of the Baskervilles
Okay then one of God’s creations includes the small pox virus. A scourge causing a horrific painful death. Thanks to man (ie evil scientists) small pox can be cured. So who gets the glory? God who created small pox or the scientists who found a cure?

Do you believe in God?

120 posted on 09/25/2009 7:33:29 PM PDT by P-Marlowe (LPFOKETT GAHCOEEP-w/o*)
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