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Will FR embrace socialism to make way for Rudy Giuliani as a Republican presidential candidate?
vanity | April 21, 2007 | Jim Robinson

Posted on 04/21/2007 6:42:25 PM PDT by Jim Robinson

We've got some real challenges facing us. FR was established to fight against government corruption, overstepping, and abuse and to fight for a return to the limited constitutional government as envisioned and set forth by our founding fathers in the Declaration of Independence and the Constitution and other founding documents.

One of the biggest cases of government corruption, overstepping and abuse that I know of is its disgraceful headlong slide into a socialist hell. Our founders never intended for abortion to be the law of the land. And they never intended the Supreme Court to be a legislative body. They never intended God or religion to be written out of public life. They never intended government to be used to deny God's existence or for government to be used to force sexual perversions onto our society or into our children's education curriculum. They never intend for government to disarm the people. They never intended for government to set up sanctuary cities for illegals. They never intended government to “rule” over the people and or to take their earnings or private property or to deprive them of their constitutional rights to free speech, free religion, private property, due process, etc. They never intended government to seize the private property of private citizens through draconian asset forfeiture laws or laws allowing government to take private property from lawful owners to give to developers. Or to seize wealth and redistribute it to others. Or to provide government forced health insurance or government forced retirement systems.

All of the above are examples of ever expanding socialism and tyranny brought to us by liberals/liberalism.

FR fights against the liberals/Democrats in all of these areas and always will. Now if liberalism infiltrates into the Republican party and Republicans start promoting all this socialist garbage, do you think that I or FR will suddenly stop fighting against it? Do you think I'm going to bow down and accept abortionism, feminism, homosexualism, global warming, illegal alien lawbreakers, gun control, asset forfeiture, socialism, tyranny, totalitarianism, etc, etc, etc, just so some fancy New York liberal lawyer can become president from the Republican party?

Do you really expect me to do that?


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To: EternalVigilance

I;m not ignoring it, I’m hoping that by the time he is a candidate, he WILL be ready to go there. Or at least go SOMEWHERE better than where he went before.

In the meantime Romney is another guy a lot of people don’t like but he at least sounds better on CFR. And with Mitt, if you elect him you will be praying that he lives up to what he said in his race, not that he doesn’t.

I know people don’t trust him, but I do.


3,881 posted on 04/22/2007 8:47:00 PM PDT by CharlesWayneCT
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To: Mojave

“Well, he did have his plan to scoop and dump the dead firefighters into a landfill until public outrage made him back off”

I didn’t know that......man that is sick : )


3,882 posted on 04/22/2007 8:47:24 PM PDT by stephenjohnbanker ( Hunter/Thompson/Thompson/Hunter in 08! Or Rudy/Hillary if you want to murder conservatism)
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To: Politicalmom

Thank you for the kind and overly generous words. I appreciate it.


3,883 posted on 04/22/2007 8:47:29 PM PDT by Torie (The real facts can sometimes be inconvenient things)
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To: BigSkyFreeper
Well Said!

3,884 posted on 04/22/2007 8:48:01 PM PDT by Fiddlstix (Warning! This Is A Subliminal Tagline! Read it at your own risk!(Presented by TagLines R US))
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To: Mom MD
I'm not saying that all women are weak and pro-choice. My mom would beat me into a pulp for saying that!

I am saying that a) carrying a pregnancy to term is a difficult and expensive thing - even I believe that! And since many other women believe that, they like having the option of abortion - they might think it's wrong, but "not wrong enough".

A lot of men, think that too - I've had to reevaluate many a friendship because people I grew up with have said outright that they don't mind killing babies if it means them saving money. But most women a) don't like to openly confront about anything, especially this issue, and b) yes, women get more emotional than men. And even if they weigh the issue one way, they have good friends that weighed the issue the other way - and they don't want to break off that friendship.

And that causes them not to come outright and debate the issue of abortion, but for emotions to come steaming out indirectly instead. This has happened with every wishy-washy-commited pro-life woman I've dated. Every one. And when it finally comes out what they're angry about, it's like Krakatoa blowing.

3,885 posted on 04/22/2007 8:48:19 PM PDT by Yossarian (Everyday, somewhere on the globe, somebody is pushing the frontier of stupidity...)
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To: Politicalmom
No, he was banned for a while. Maybe a mod got complaints and zotted him, and Jim retrieved him. Disgusting creature, huh?

Thanks. I must have missed that interlude. :-(

3,886 posted on 04/22/2007 8:48:31 PM PDT by calcowgirl ("Liberalism is just Communism sold by the drink." P. J. O'Rourke)
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To: Torie
But debate in a star chamber is no debate at all...

Sounds like the "secret" Salt River forums at WA dot net.

3,887 posted on 04/22/2007 8:48:32 PM PDT by Petronski (FRED!)
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To: CharlesWayneCT

Good job, CW. Rest well!


3,888 posted on 04/22/2007 8:48:36 PM PDT by stephenjohnbanker ( Hunter/Thompson/Thompson/Hunter in 08! Or Rudy/Hillary if you want to murder conservatism)
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To: cicero's_son
If Rudy comes through the primaries, it will be because he managed to earn the support of HIDE THE TRUTH FROM a very large number of right-of-center voters.
3,889 posted on 04/22/2007 8:48:46 PM PDT by The Spirit Of Allegiance (Public Employees: Honor Your Oaths! Defend the Constitution from Enemies--Foreign and Domestic!)
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To: dirtboy; stephenjohnbanker

I’ll save it for my next bout of malaria treated with quinine. I’ll be so dizzy and nauseus I won’t be able lift my head out of bed for four days. Gotta do something in that time.


3,890 posted on 04/22/2007 8:48:59 PM PDT by Jemian (PAM of JT ~~ "There is no honor for the man who runs from battle." Spc. Josh Lott)
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To: ABG(anybody but Gore)

Are you going to tell Jim to go back to DU, too?


3,891 posted on 04/22/2007 8:49:24 PM PDT by Politicalmom (Better a democrat with an energized opposition than a leftist “Republican” with no opposition.)
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To: flashbunny

well, I am glad that you read the stuff that I wrote. I would hate to think that I was talking to myself. Thank you for listening.

I don’t know what to tell you other than: If you don’t like Rudy don’t vote for him. And try to convince others why they shouldn’t either. What can I say?

See, this is why I would never win an election anywhere. Save the wise ass remarks, I’m smarter than 99% of the state assemblycritters but I suffer from a terrible disease...involuntary honesty.

If some hard up guy asked me a question in a Town Hall forum like “Mr. Blair, my food stamps are running out. If I vote for you, will you guarantee that you’ll do something?”

My answer would be “No. I can’t do a damn thing. Neither can my opponent. But you can. Go get a damn shotgun, kill a deer, skin it, grill it and stop whining.”

That probably won’t win me too many votes.


3,892 posted on 04/22/2007 8:49:48 PM PDT by Eric Blair 2084 (Alcohol, Tobacco and Firearms shouldn't be a federal agency...it should be a convenience store.)
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To: La Enchiladita

I TOTALLY agree.


3,893 posted on 04/22/2007 8:50:36 PM PDT by Iwo Jima ("Close the border. Then we'll talk.")
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To: Petronski

You are welcome to post where you will. I hope this finds you well, and your fine bride. You are a lucky guy.


3,894 posted on 04/22/2007 8:50:38 PM PDT by Torie (The real facts can sometimes be inconvenient things)
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To: mkjessup
LOL! Congrats on your tagline.
I loved those old Burma Shave signs back in the day.
3,895 posted on 04/22/2007 8:50:38 PM PDT by Fiddlstix (Warning! This Is A Subliminal Tagline! Read it at your own risk!(Presented by TagLines R US))
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To: CharlesWayneCT

That’s twice for Central Scrutinizer, isn’t it?


3,896 posted on 04/22/2007 8:50:46 PM PDT by JCEccles
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To: Torie

I wish you the best too, Torie. Truly.

And so, if you’re really going, one last thought, given with a true desire for your eternal good, and hoping that at some point you’ll know the 100% reality of it:

Jesus is the Answer; the Way, the Truth and the Life.


3,897 posted on 04/22/2007 8:50:56 PM PDT by EternalVigilance (Laws that infringe on unalienable rights are not laws at all...they are in fact lawless edicts.)
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To: Yossarian; Mom MD

I am not certain, but MMD may have confused you with another poster who was posting a lot of anti-woman garbage earlier.

I could be wrong.


3,898 posted on 04/22/2007 8:51:31 PM PDT by Politicalmom (Better a democrat with an energized opposition than a leftist “Republican” with no opposition.)
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To: Jim Robinson
Do you really expect me to do that?

Your site, but then this site should no longer be named 'Free Republic.'

3,899 posted on 04/22/2007 8:52:17 PM PDT by LdSentinal
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To: CharlesWayneCT; Jim Robinson

Mia T and Luis Gonzales got kicked out?!

We’ve got a problem around here, and it ain’t JimRob.

I smell sleeper trolls trying to stir up trouble...


3,900 posted on 04/22/2007 8:52:19 PM PDT by ABG(anybody but Gore) ("We're Living In A Twilight World..."- Swingout Sister)
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