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Will FR embrace socialism to make way for Rudy Giuliani as a Republican presidential candidate?
vanity | April 21, 2007 | Jim Robinson

Posted on 04/21/2007 6:42:25 PM PDT by Jim Robinson

We've got some real challenges facing us. FR was established to fight against government corruption, overstepping, and abuse and to fight for a return to the limited constitutional government as envisioned and set forth by our founding fathers in the Declaration of Independence and the Constitution and other founding documents.

One of the biggest cases of government corruption, overstepping and abuse that I know of is its disgraceful headlong slide into a socialist hell. Our founders never intended for abortion to be the law of the land. And they never intended the Supreme Court to be a legislative body. They never intended God or religion to be written out of public life. They never intended government to be used to deny God's existence or for government to be used to force sexual perversions onto our society or into our children's education curriculum. They never intend for government to disarm the people. They never intended for government to set up sanctuary cities for illegals. They never intended government to “rule” over the people and or to take their earnings or private property or to deprive them of their constitutional rights to free speech, free religion, private property, due process, etc. They never intended government to seize the private property of private citizens through draconian asset forfeiture laws or laws allowing government to take private property from lawful owners to give to developers. Or to seize wealth and redistribute it to others. Or to provide government forced health insurance or government forced retirement systems.

All of the above are examples of ever expanding socialism and tyranny brought to us by liberals/liberalism.

FR fights against the liberals/Democrats in all of these areas and always will. Now if liberalism infiltrates into the Republican party and Republicans start promoting all this socialist garbage, do you think that I or FR will suddenly stop fighting against it? Do you think I'm going to bow down and accept abortionism, feminism, homosexualism, global warming, illegal alien lawbreakers, gun control, asset forfeiture, socialism, tyranny, totalitarianism, etc, etc, etc, just so some fancy New York liberal lawyer can become president from the Republican party?

Do you really expect me to do that?


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To: Brad's Gramma

Guess what? My SIL sent me a whole big bag of yarn....


15,621 posted on 04/29/2007 7:53:54 PM PDT by Knitting A Conundrum (Act Justly, Love Mercy, and Walk Humbly With God Micah 6:8)
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To: sig226

Woo hoo!! Great job!!


15,622 posted on 04/29/2007 7:54:32 PM PDT by Jim Robinson
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To: ansel12

It goes on constantly.


15,623 posted on 04/29/2007 7:55:17 PM PDT by metmom (Welfare was never meant to be a career choice.)
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To: IrishRainy

We won every single race we were involved in last election cycle.

Any more personal information you want, troll?


15,624 posted on 04/29/2007 7:56:12 PM PDT by EternalVigilance (<------(My choice for President in 2008 - Click on my screen name)
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To: 1COUNTER-MORTER-68
“Red-Lady-Shooz”

You mean the Ruby Slippers? I done awarded them last night to someone else - so I don't have them any more.

15,625 posted on 04/29/2007 7:56:27 PM PDT by don-o (Proudly posting without reading the thread since 1998.)
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To: RexTheRunt
U.S.Code
TITLE 18
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15,626 posted on 04/29/2007 7:56:28 PM PDT by michigander (The Constitution only guarantees the right to pursue happiness. You have to catch it yourself.)
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To: metmom
As I said in another reply, you seem to think that the issues on which you oppose Rudy are "major" while those on which I oppose Bush are less so.

Don't agree. Sorry.

I absolutely respect your decision NOT to hold your nose and vote for Rudy, as long as you also accept my decision to vote third party in '00 and '04.

15,627 posted on 04/29/2007 7:56:28 PM PDT by RexTheRunt (The MSM says "Jump, Republican pigs!" and the GOP tugs its forelock and grabs air.)
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To: IrishRainy

I bet your life is rather forlorn since CP went down.


15,628 posted on 04/29/2007 7:57:06 PM PDT by EternalVigilance (<------(My choice for President in 2008 - Click on my screen name)
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To: don-o
Nestle's chips and real butter, not margarine.

Oleo is a four letter word in baking. I usually have Ghirardelli chips, but Nestle will be the chips du jour.


15,629 posted on 04/29/2007 7:57:15 PM PDT by NautiNurse (I am a proud cookie baker.)
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To: stephenjohnbanker

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15,630 posted on 04/29/2007 7:57:21 PM PDT by Chena (Why settle for less when you could have the best! Fred Thompson for President!)
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To: gpapa; sissyjane

OK....then it’s true, that WAS said over there. I didn’t doubt you, gpapa, I didn’t want to believe that things like that would happen.

When this all started, I really did NOT care one way or another if Ivan started a forum and like-minded folk joined him.

But to PLAN to come here & goad FRers...and then act innocent when they’re called on it...that crosses a line with me.

That is flat out WRONG. Go and have your forum, do what you can to support your guy...but why does THIS have to happen???


15,631 posted on 04/29/2007 7:57:29 PM PDT by Brad’s Gramma (See HiJinx's tag line....then DO it!!!!)
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To: EternalVigilance

Alan Keyes won??? I missed it!


15,632 posted on 04/29/2007 7:57:53 PM PDT by sissyjane (Fred!!)
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To: metmom

“If you support him, knowing his positions on those issues, then you are supporting those issues. Those are major issues. I simply can’t fathom why someone who holds the opposing positions on those issues would support him.”

EASY.
Rudy’s the front-runner.
If Rudy gets the nomination he’ll be up against Hillary Clinton.
Many of us would rather support someone we disagree with on some (or even most) major issues than someone with whom we disagree on EVERY SINGLE ISSUE.


15,633 posted on 04/29/2007 7:59:08 PM PDT by Pravious
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To: sissyjane
Alan Keyes won??? I missed it!

Alan Keyes always wins, since he stands for the fundamental principles of liberty. You, on the other hand, are a loser.

15,634 posted on 04/29/2007 7:59:14 PM PDT by EternalVigilance (<------(My choice for President in 2008 - Click on my screen name)
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To: Chena

Bookmark


15,635 posted on 04/29/2007 7:59:26 PM PDT by Chena (Why settle for less when you could have the best! Fred Thompson for President!)
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To: vox_freedom
How about natural law as it pertains to homosexuality? Do you acknowledge that?

Which natural law theory are you referring to? There is not just one theory of natural law. Certain religious-based natural law theories definitely do have a problem with homosexuality - and as I said, I am not concerned with that. I am not the least bit concerned with what others do in their bedrooms nor in what specific religions interpret as "natural law" - except as a point of interest. I am concerned with the documents that the Founders left us and that they are interpreted as was intended. I do not care for the idea of amending and tinkering to appease any special-interest group, be it on the left or the right.

15,636 posted on 04/29/2007 7:59:48 PM PDT by DGray
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To: Chena

Think a setpoint will help you keep up? ;)


15,637 posted on 04/29/2007 7:59:59 PM PDT by Knitting A Conundrum (Act Justly, Love Mercy, and Walk Humbly With God Micah 6:8)
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To: DCPatriot

Please go away.
***NO. I’ve been on this thread since almost the beginning. I’ve been on FR since almost the beginning, longer than you. While you’ve been off posting funny pictures, some of us socons were getting our bones gnawed at by some of those ex-freepers you call your FRiends. And you come onto this thread and post material offensive to religious conservatives. You apologized to KAC but you let the comment still stand.

I support JimRob 110%.
***Then help him refocus this socon site into a socon site.

I have just lost all my FRiends.
***I understand that. I have expressed grief earlier in this thread as well, hoping that it would come to an end. But today we see that there have been FReepers who admitted that they were agent provocateurs for many years. So my advice to you is to get off this thread. Stay on Free Republic.

You pick up the paper one day and read that they’re all gone!
***Maybe if you had been reading the paper closer all along you would have seen this coming. Go back over the rudy threads from a couple of months ago onward and you will see that they brought this on themselves. They were not in alignment with the core values of Free Republic.


15,639 posted on 04/29/2007 8:00:13 PM PDT by Kevmo (Duncan Hunter just needs one Rudy G Campaign Video: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RVBtPIrEleM)
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To: gpapa
From WA 29-Apr-2007

Author Merry CommentTime1 hour ago permalinkReport Post

People, we need to get over the FR site and start posting articles and commenting. We have to help WA grow. I know it's hard to find interesting articles because the MSM is treating all Republican candidates with a big yawn, but we need things to discuss besides FR which is getting old quickly.

Thanks. Looks like that poster is saying that its better to post news articles then it is to post criticisms of FR.

Sounds like good advice.

15,640 posted on 04/29/2007 8:01:01 PM PDT by FreeReign
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