Will FR embrace socialism to make way for Rudy Giuliani as a Republican presidential candidate?

vanity | April 21, 2007 | Jim Robinson

[Jim Robinson]

We've got some real challenges facing us. FR was established to fight against government corruption, overstepping, and abuse and to fight for a return to the limited constitutional government as envisioned and set forth by our founding fathers in the Declaration of Independence and the Constitution and other founding documents.

One of the biggest cases of government corruption, overstepping and abuse that I know of is its disgraceful headlong slide into a socialist hell. Our founders never intended for abortion to be the law of the land. And they never intended the Supreme Court to be a legislative body. They never intended God or religion to be written out of public life. They never intended government to be used to deny God's existence or for government to be used to force sexual perversions onto our society or into our children's education curriculum. They never intend for government to disarm the people. They never intended for government to set up sanctuary cities for illegals. They never intended government to “rule” over the people and or to take their earnings or private property or to deprive them of their constitutional rights to free speech, free religion, private property, due process, etc. They never intended government to seize the private property of private citizens through draconian asset forfeiture laws or laws allowing government to take private property from lawful owners to give to developers. Or to seize wealth and redistribute it to others. Or to provide government forced health insurance or government forced retirement systems.

All of the above are examples of ever expanding socialism and tyranny brought to us by liberals/liberalism.

FR fights against the liberals/Democrats in all of these areas and always will. Now if liberalism infiltrates into the Republican party and Republicans start promoting all this socialist garbage, do you think that I or FR will suddenly stop fighting against it? Do you think I'm going to bow down and accept abortionism, feminism, homosexualism, global warming, illegal alien lawbreakers, gun control, asset forfeiture, socialism, tyranny, totalitarianism, etc, etc, etc, just so some fancy New York liberal lawyer can become president from the Republican party?

Do you really expect me to do that?

[BykrBayb]

It's an anti-freeper site, started by MadIvan, and joined by other anti-freepers who wanted to leave FR in a blaze of glory. Many of them have left, but not the way they hoped. As one of them said on one of her previous anti-freeper sites, Some of them "broke bad" IMO........LOL

[Mo1]

don’t recalling saying those exact words

[ScreamingFist]

I'm calm SF. I submit that if anyone was going hysterical in this thread with manic pleas to 'take it to private mail', and 'STFU', it's you.

Frankly man, I thought you would take that figuratively....like it was meant.....enough bashing each other....apparently I was wrong......notice no one is killing each other except for you and I.......it's enough man....DU eats there own....we don't......and I apologize....

[JCEccles]

Some of us conservatives simply want the government to remain secular.

What you got is a government that is pro-actively and aggressively atheist.

[Not A Snowbird]

Wideawakes is a very nice, warm, welcoming place for social liberals. It is far more selective, narrow, and unforgiving in its political outlook than FR.

That's not even remotely accurate. Social liberals? Some, but not all. There's a wide cross-section of people there.

Selective, narrow and unforgiving? That's a riot. Pot, meet kettle.

[DGray]

The Bush administration is proactively and aggressively atheist? Who knew? *boggle*

[BykrBayb]

Btw, WA was started March 5. This thread, which is only about a week old, was not the cause of WA.

[processing please hold]

Do you know when the primaries are?

[Jim Robinson]

It’s not a fraudulent statement, but we have paid and are paying a great price for the original failure to apply it to all men.

[EternalVigilance]

It was a fraudulent statement at the time and we’re still paying the price for the founder’s failure to include the black man as “all men”.

There's no asterisk in the Declaration. "All men" means "all men."

Beyond that, your post is one of the stupidest things I've ever seen on this site. You have called the cornerstone of American liberty a fraud.

[Rb ver. 2.0]

You really think had they included black men as “all men”? We had had a civil war and it’s aftermath which today includes the culture of Jesse Jackson, Al Sharpton because of black exclusion.

[BykrBayb]

States do not have the right to violate The Bill of Rights.

[EternalVigilance]

"Without morals a republic cannot subsist any length of time; they therefore who are decrying the Christian religion, whose morality is so sublime and pure (and) which insures to the good eternal happiness, are undermining the solid foundation of morals, the best security for the duration of free governments." - Charles Carroll, signer of the Declaration of Independence

[calcowgirl]

Actually, the WTC was owned by the NY Port Authority ...

Oops. You were way ahead of me.

Note to self: Read ahead. ;-)

[The Spirit Of Allegiance]

Good grief, I'm appealing to everyone's sense of thought, everyone's sense of fairness. My gosh, there are scorecards and updates on the purge. Collectively these people have posted thousands and thousands of threads and comments. They hate the far-left, the liberalism that threatens our immediate well-being.

Your post doesn't deal with the evil of Marxism except by turning what is probably an innocent, blind eye to Cultural Marxism. You cannot ultimately defeat Marxism with Cultural Marxism. (And although it's still early in the 2008 race, if we have a Liberal GOP candidate for POTUS, we will definitely have a Liberal POTUS next time. Let's raise the bar....)

I pray you will soon be disabused of the notion that what is hated by some of those banned is the Left, it's the Religious Right they hate most of all; they're ON the Left! Pray for them--but beware.

[JCEccles]

States do not have the right to violate The Bill of Rights.

That's right. That's the feds' prerogative.

[Rb ver. 2.0]

I grant you that and agree with it’s original failure of application.

[Pravious]

Sure, I’m over at Wideawakes. It’s a great place! We all meet in a secret room, and say nasty things about Ronald Reagan, Free Republic, and post our favorite pictures of Rudy.

:-) <-— See that?

[wagglebee]

Can you provide a shred of evidence that even remotely suggests that any of the Founding Fathers would have endorsed the abolition of prayer or mention of God on public property, homosexual marriage or the abortion of 3500 infants per day?

[NautiNurse]

You really should be more clear in your accusations. It was you, mkjessup, who posted each and every one of the following comments:

1. ADIOS TWIT!
2. Go screw yourself, you little twit
3. don’t let the cat cover you up when you head back to your sandbox
4. you can follow Miss Katie right on out the door bucko

Does posting such drivel make you feel more like a Conservative Man?