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Will FR embrace socialism to make way for Rudy Giuliani as a Republican presidential candidate?
vanity | April 21, 2007 | Jim Robinson

Posted on 04/21/2007 6:42:25 PM PDT by Jim Robinson

We've got some real challenges facing us. FR was established to fight against government corruption, overstepping, and abuse and to fight for a return to the limited constitutional government as envisioned and set forth by our founding fathers in the Declaration of Independence and the Constitution and other founding documents.

One of the biggest cases of government corruption, overstepping and abuse that I know of is its disgraceful headlong slide into a socialist hell. Our founders never intended for abortion to be the law of the land. And they never intended the Supreme Court to be a legislative body. They never intended God or religion to be written out of public life. They never intended government to be used to deny God's existence or for government to be used to force sexual perversions onto our society or into our children's education curriculum. They never intend for government to disarm the people. They never intended for government to set up sanctuary cities for illegals. They never intended government to “rule” over the people and or to take their earnings or private property or to deprive them of their constitutional rights to free speech, free religion, private property, due process, etc. They never intended government to seize the private property of private citizens through draconian asset forfeiture laws or laws allowing government to take private property from lawful owners to give to developers. Or to seize wealth and redistribute it to others. Or to provide government forced health insurance or government forced retirement systems.

All of the above are examples of ever expanding socialism and tyranny brought to us by liberals/liberalism.

FR fights against the liberals/Democrats in all of these areas and always will. Now if liberalism infiltrates into the Republican party and Republicans start promoting all this socialist garbage, do you think that I or FR will suddenly stop fighting against it? Do you think I'm going to bow down and accept abortionism, feminism, homosexualism, global warming, illegal alien lawbreakers, gun control, asset forfeiture, socialism, tyranny, totalitarianism, etc, etc, etc, just so some fancy New York liberal lawyer can become president from the Republican party?

Do you really expect me to do that?


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To: Mrs.Liberty

Many forget the power is “afforded” the leadership. WE give them the power they have, and then many of us (us in general) then feel even a greater amount of perceived power being held over us. Good morning!


12,221 posted on 04/27/2007 9:10:51 AM PDT by jedward (Mission '08 - Take back the House & Senate. No Negotiations...No Prisoners.)
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To: Dog Gone

Which you didn’t answer. Which is fine. No answer, so I assume condone.


12,222 posted on 04/27/2007 9:11:36 AM PDT by commonguymd (Move it to the right)
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To: Knitting A Conundrum

it was my cup of tea, I love the scientific debate of creation vs evolution, but after wading into several of the threads, i quickly learned by lesson and began staying away. Too bad because there were a couple of people honestly willing to debate, but most just wanted to attack and make fun of anyone who had beliefs other than evolution.

I am a lot happier on the political threads now
although this one is seriously interfering with my life outside free republic - i never did get caught up last night!


12,223 posted on 04/27/2007 9:12:25 AM PDT by Mom MD (The scorn of fools is music to the ears of the wise)
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To: jedward

“We, the people are the rightful masters of both Congress and the courts, not to overthrow the Constitution, but to overthrow men who pervert the Constitution.” Abraham Lincoln


12,224 posted on 04/27/2007 9:13:38 AM PDT by Knitting A Conundrum (Act Justly, Love Mercy, and Walk Humbly With God Micah 6:8)
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To: Knitting A Conundrum

Perfect!


12,225 posted on 04/27/2007 9:15:36 AM PDT by jedward (Mission '08 - Take back the House & Senate. No Negotiations...No Prisoners.)
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To: jedward
True, that.

Good morning from the People's Republik of Kalifornia. I am settled in with my coffee, my cinnamon roll (Vons)--ready to work and FREEP(provided the boss stays away)!

12,226 posted on 04/27/2007 9:15:49 AM PDT by Mrs.Liberty (Anyone who is more afraid for his own safety over the life of an unborn child is a coward)
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To: jedward

“””Now ducking from the ANS crowd (lol)”””

You should be so lucky - that is one refined group of grandmothers with divergent views and genteel manners, anyone of whom could beat your arse:0 figuratively speaking.


12,227 posted on 04/27/2007 9:16:26 AM PDT by sodpoodle ( Despair - man's surrender. Laughter - God's redemption)
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Bump


12,228 posted on 04/27/2007 9:16:35 AM PDT by navynucmom (Those Bauers are one wacky family!)
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To: al baby



LOL!!!!!
12,229 posted on 04/27/2007 9:16:52 AM PDT by Brad’s Gramma (DUNCAN HUNTER FOR PRESIDENT! http://www.gohunter08.com/Home.aspx)
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To: Mom MD
I love the scientific debate of creation vs evolution, but after wading into several of the threads, i quickly learned by lesson and began staying away. Too bad because there were a couple of people honestly willing to debate, but most just wanted to attack and make fun of anyone who had beliefs other than evolution.

That's my story too.

I'm here because I just had to post on a thread that is even longer than the evo/crevo foodfights!

12,230 posted on 04/27/2007 9:16:54 AM PDT by colorado tanker
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To: dmw; al baby

Al’s my bud......I’m sitting here laughing my...um, butt off.

:)


12,231 posted on 04/27/2007 9:17:44 AM PDT by Brad’s Gramma (DUNCAN HUNTER FOR PRESIDENT! http://www.gohunter08.com/Home.aspx)
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To: sodpoodle

lol. Was waiting for something along those lines :)


12,232 posted on 04/27/2007 9:18:42 AM PDT by jedward (Mission '08 - Take back the House & Senate. No Negotiations...No Prisoners.)
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To: al baby
Clicky Herey!
12,233 posted on 04/27/2007 9:18:52 AM PDT by Brad’s Gramma (DUNCAN HUNTER FOR PRESIDENT! http://www.gohunter08.com/Home.aspx)
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To: jedward

Couldn’t bear to see your wait unrequited. LOL


12,234 posted on 04/27/2007 9:20:16 AM PDT by sodpoodle ( Despair - man's surrender. Laughter - God's redemption)
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To: Mom MD

I would love to talk science. I even used to be a member of the American Society for the Advancement of Science, back in the 80s. But the warfare that took place made it hard to discuss why you thought someone’s research was good or stupid, or what the implications of something was. I just decided that this probably wasn’t the best forum for that type of discussion, read the articles and went on to other things.

It’s like the futility of trying to discuss climate change. Climates change. We don’t understand why, exactly, in all details. But it is soooooo politicized, it’s hard to honestly talk about the mechanics of it without running into junk science and the religion of environmentalism and those who are reacting against the religion of environmentalism.

I feel betrayed by those who have stolen science, which is a method of gathering information and studying it, and turned it into several different belief system, some flavors which have not a lot of connection to truth. I’m not sure which is worse, positivism or Gaia worship. Both stop true inquiry because of the mental blockers.

Before we moved, I was volunteering as a cataloger in a FS technical research library (empty nest time, and I was free to stretch my wings!). There’s so much good hard science out there about the environment, and land management and related issues. But it doesn’t make the news. And what’s worse is that the underlying assumptions of the environmental movement are starting to color the research decisions instead of pure investigation. And when that happens, you get more problems.

GIGO, garbage in, garbage out, is a fact of reality.

But maybe I’m just a knowledge idealist. I believe in the pursuit of truth. And what the truth is, it is.

Pope Benedict, back in his pre-Pope days said “Truth is not determined by a majority vote.” But there are sure a lot of people who want it to be so.


12,235 posted on 04/27/2007 9:26:55 AM PDT by Knitting A Conundrum (Act Justly, Love Mercy, and Walk Humbly With God Micah 6:8)
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To: papasmurf

Late to the thread -trying to back track.

Your post #666(yikes) was excellent.

Thank you.


12,236 posted on 04/27/2007 9:28:14 AM PDT by sodpoodle ( Despair - man's surrender. Laughter - God's redemption)
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To: jedward

Bad thing about writing a rant..you miss all the silliness while being serious!


12,237 posted on 04/27/2007 9:28:58 AM PDT by Knitting A Conundrum (Act Justly, Love Mercy, and Walk Humbly With God Micah 6:8)
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To: Knitting A Conundrum

“GIGO, garbage in, garbage out, is a fact of reality.”

That’s always a great analogy, or should I say reality :)


12,238 posted on 04/27/2007 9:37:37 AM PDT by jedward (Mission '08 - Take back the House & Senate. No Negotiations...No Prisoners.)
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To: Knitting A Conundrum

“Every step we take towards making the State our Caretaker of our lives, by that much we move toward making the State our Master.”

Dwight D. Eisenhower


12,239 posted on 04/27/2007 9:38:25 AM PDT by Knitting A Conundrum (Act Justly, Love Mercy, and Walk Humbly With God Micah 6:8)
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To: jedward

I thought I had killed the thread!


12,240 posted on 04/27/2007 9:38:59 AM PDT by Knitting A Conundrum (Act Justly, Love Mercy, and Walk Humbly With God Micah 6:8)
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