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Will FR embrace socialism to make way for Rudy Giuliani as a Republican presidential candidate?
vanity | April 21, 2007 | Jim Robinson

Posted on 04/21/2007 6:42:25 PM PDT by Jim Robinson

We've got some real challenges facing us. FR was established to fight against government corruption, overstepping, and abuse and to fight for a return to the limited constitutional government as envisioned and set forth by our founding fathers in the Declaration of Independence and the Constitution and other founding documents.

One of the biggest cases of government corruption, overstepping and abuse that I know of is its disgraceful headlong slide into a socialist hell. Our founders never intended for abortion to be the law of the land. And they never intended the Supreme Court to be a legislative body. They never intended God or religion to be written out of public life. They never intended government to be used to deny God's existence or for government to be used to force sexual perversions onto our society or into our children's education curriculum. They never intend for government to disarm the people. They never intended for government to set up sanctuary cities for illegals. They never intended government to “rule” over the people and or to take their earnings or private property or to deprive them of their constitutional rights to free speech, free religion, private property, due process, etc. They never intended government to seize the private property of private citizens through draconian asset forfeiture laws or laws allowing government to take private property from lawful owners to give to developers. Or to seize wealth and redistribute it to others. Or to provide government forced health insurance or government forced retirement systems.

All of the above are examples of ever expanding socialism and tyranny brought to us by liberals/liberalism.

FR fights against the liberals/Democrats in all of these areas and always will. Now if liberalism infiltrates into the Republican party and Republicans start promoting all this socialist garbage, do you think that I or FR will suddenly stop fighting against it? Do you think I'm going to bow down and accept abortionism, feminism, homosexualism, global warming, illegal alien lawbreakers, gun control, asset forfeiture, socialism, tyranny, totalitarianism, etc, etc, etc, just so some fancy New York liberal lawyer can become president from the Republican party?

Do you really expect me to do that?


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To: CheneyChick; Peach

Peach keeps posting that every rudy supporter is being banned, that all the freepers are writing her afraid to say they support Rudy.

Only a couple of people have been banned, and they were banned for posting lies about other conservatives, and posting things so wrong that they themselves had their own comments pulled.

There is no purge, there is no reason for CIVILIZED people to be afraid to express their opinion. Jim opposes their candidate, but has not banned them simply for supporting their candidate.


1,141 posted on 04/21/2007 11:23:09 PM PDT by CharlesWayneCT
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To: streetpreacher
and want to force their worldview on the rest of us...

rotflmao

1,142 posted on 04/21/2007 11:23:15 PM PDT by Rex Anderson
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To: PJ-Comix

Hey, maybe you should put up a version of FR funnies.

This thread should certaing provide plenty of material.


1,143 posted on 04/21/2007 11:23:18 PM PDT by staytrue
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To: Bigh4u2
Yep. That's yours is a great tag-line.

Respecting to your first comments: at worst Sadaam was "rumored" to have WMD's. Given what was known by almost every intelligence agency in the world, failing to act in an overt military sense was a non-issue.

Don't accuse me of separating anthing between anything. I'm stating a blatent fact about what is.

You said:

It’s not an ‘either’,’or’ situtation. It’s both, including ‘fiscal’. You cannot say that true ‘conservatism’ is one or the other.
I understand the difference between practical and pragmatic.

Don't pigeon-hole me as being an advocate for any sort of ideology. Regardless of whatever political rhetoric is being spewed, I believe that there is a subliminal and tacit approval by Congress and the Senate concerning Executive policy.

There is at least an implicit consent respecting the operations in Iraq pertaining to WOT. We'll soon find out just how explicite the consent is concerning all that based on the fact that the military will need money real soon.

The last bill had two major aspects to it: lots and lots of pork, and a artificial deadline. Bush said that he'd reject any sort of deadline, does that mean he'd accept any number with respect to pork? Would it be acceptable to double the cost of the war if 1/2 of the cost was pork for those Democrat/Republican legislators that wouldn't vote otherwise $'s came into their district?

Frankly, I believe that all the nonsense about the pork will come down to whether or not any of it can be paid for on the U.S.A. credit card.

1,144 posted on 04/21/2007 11:23:44 PM PDT by raygun (Freepmail me if you're a venture capitalist interested to finance my gay robot invention.)
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To: Peach
And as I’ve said, I’m delighted that so far, Rudy’s frontrunner status tells me that most conservatives and Republicans don’t agree with your opinion of him.

Name recognition polling aside, that assessment will change when more voters understand what Rudy is.

1,145 posted on 04/21/2007 11:23:56 PM PDT by Petronski (FRED!)
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To: Rex Anderson

Oh, the irony.


1,146 posted on 04/21/2007 11:23:57 PM PDT by Howlin (Honk if you like Fred Thompson!!!)
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To: flashbunny

He He, Right on Flashbunny.


1,147 posted on 04/21/2007 11:23:57 PM PDT by Just sayin (Is is what it is, for if it was anything else, it would be isn't.)
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To: Peach
But at least you don’t threaten to vote third party or for Hillary.

Would you mind, since you are not a liar, pointing out the people on this thread who said they would vote for Hillary instead of Rudy?

Thanks.

1,148 posted on 04/21/2007 11:23:59 PM PDT by CharlesWayneCT
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To: samadams2000

“Chris Matthews said he would consider voting for him and I knew the fix was in.”

Expect establishment Republicans to give some type of courage award to Chrissy Matthews now - I mean the moderate Chrissy Matthews. lmao...I can’t wait for this Rudymania to crash and burn - the elite of the Party will leave him swiftly and in droves. Leaving the hardcore lib RINOS holding the bag. It’s coming folks.


1,149 posted on 04/21/2007 11:24:27 PM PDT by rbmillerjr ("Message to radical jihadis...come to my hood, it's understood ------ it's open season" Stuck Mojo)
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To: Howlin; CharlesWayneCT
That’s the dumbest post I’ve ever seen on FR.

No it isn't Charles, you're going to have to work a whole lot harder in order to receive the vaunted Howlin' What a load of rubbish award.

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1820759/posts?page=386#386

Nice doggie, nice doggie, no Howling now, it's late.
1,150 posted on 04/21/2007 11:24:35 PM PDT by mkjessup (Jan 20, 2009 - "We Don't Know. Where Rudy Went. Just Glad He's Not. The President. Burma Shave.")
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To: M. Thatcher

Your claim does not contradict mine.


1,151 posted on 04/21/2007 11:24:46 PM PDT by Petronski (FRED!)
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To: Central Scrutiniser
I don't get outraged when the candidates I support lose elections.

I do, however, get disappointed when so many conservatives get duped into supporting not-quite-as-liberal-as-the-other-guy.

I think it's more important to cast my vote for a conservative that be able to smile and slap everyone on the back when "Our Guy" wins the election. It's easy to say "Death before Slavery," but what does it mean if you vote for someone who will take more of your liberty away?

1,152 posted on 04/21/2007 11:24:52 PM PDT by Pan_Yan (All grey areas are fabrications.)
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To: M. Thatcher; Peach

Hey, another pro-rudy poster who managed to “escape the purge”.

Must have been a real incompetent purge, with all these pro-rudy people still around.

In other words, the “purge” is the nonexistant figment of the imagination of the pro-rudy people.


1,153 posted on 04/21/2007 11:25:22 PM PDT by CharlesWayneCT
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To: Artemis Webb
Hey Jim while you’re off banning people can you let A+Bert come back?

You have to admit he was the ultimate troll.

That man was the reason God invented alcohol ..... what a lunatic. He was funny ... but only in tiny doses.

Maybe FR could let him back with the caveat that he can only post on a Sunday from 0900-1000? He can't be drunk ALL the time.

1,154 posted on 04/21/2007 11:25:23 PM PDT by Centurion2000 (Killing all of your enemies without mercy is the only sure way of sleeping soundly at night.)
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To: CharlesWayneCT

Did I say that people on THIS thread were threatening to vote for Hillary?

You’ve been on threads where it’s been threatened, I’m quite sure. Lots of us have seen it, commented on it, and some freepers have saved those posts. I’m not one of those freepers.


1,155 posted on 04/21/2007 11:25:28 PM PDT by Peach
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To: Petronski

What memories of this RM2 HICOM operator you bring back . . .


1,156 posted on 04/21/2007 11:25:59 PM PDT by Quix (GOD ALONE IS GOD; WORTHY; PAID THE PRICE; IS COMING AGAIN; KNOWS ALL; IS LOVING; IS ALTOGETHER GOOD!)
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To: CharlesWayneCT
...the “purge” is the nonexistent figment of the imagination of the pro-rudy people.

Bingo.

1,157 posted on 04/21/2007 11:26:22 PM PDT by Petronski (FRED!)
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To: Politicalmom
Most of them were sickened by Keyes’ support of reparations.

Mischaracterized by the media. Here's something Alan Keyes has written about reparations:

"The truth of the Civil War is that the terrible price for American slavery has been paid, once for all," when Americans gave their lives on the battlefield to end slavery. "The price for the sin of slavery," Keyes wrote, "has already been paid, in blood."

I can't disagree with that.

1,158 posted on 04/21/2007 11:26:25 PM PDT by Spiff (Rudy Giuliani Quote (NY Post, 1996) "Most of Clinton's policies are very similar to most of mine.")
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To: Uncledave; Peach

Sure, he is, but Peach has said on this thread that he is stifling free speech by banning and purging all the pro-rudy posters.

He is doing no such thing. In his mind he’s been more than fair to those using his site to push a candidate he hates, so for those same people who are benefiting from his site to accuse him of doing what he probably WANTS to do but doesn’t is pretty hypocritical.


1,159 posted on 04/21/2007 11:26:51 PM PDT by CharlesWayneCT
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To: Registered
Spoken like a troll with an agenda.

You mean, like you?

1,160 posted on 04/21/2007 11:27:08 PM PDT by Spiff (Rudy Giuliani Quote (NY Post, 1996) "Most of Clinton's policies are very similar to most of mine.")
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