Posted on 12/16/2014 5:31:20 PM PST by 2ndDivisionVet
It certainly hasn’t taken UKIP that long to shake the Tories and Labor to their core in England. When people have had enough, they will insist on having a party they can vote for with conviction. It’s ballots or bullets at that point.
There is an ocean wide difference between electoral situation in UK versus USA.
Romney’s strategy in 2012 to get the nomination was to divvy up the conservative contenders among third stringers like Michele Bachmann
YEP
Ford was the first nominee I voted for. If
Jeb is the nominee, W will have been the last Republican I voted for for POTUS. This might be the end of my 40 year run.
We apparently need to defeat republicanism before liberalism.
El rushbo shilling for the gop. Again. He hears the frustration but by gosh can’t support leaving that gop plantation. No way. The gop can’t be defeated! What we have to do is change the gop!
In a way, I actually agree with his premise. The gop as a wing of the uniparty probably can’t be defeated. His conclusion, though, is completely wrong. Trying to wrest control over the gop wing of the uniparty is a fool’s errand. The uniparty has been crushing upstart challengers for the last 150 years. They’re very, very good at it. There’s no reason to believe today’s conservatives are going to be any more successful than those in the past.
The logical solution, although you’ll never hear it out of the all feeling, all knowing, all self-absorbed maharushie...is to not waste your time and efforts playing a suckers game. If you want freedom and liberty, you aren’t going to find it in electoral politics.
“We apparently need to defeat republicanism before liberalism.”
Apparently, ‘republicanism’ and it’s GOPe ‘leadership’ once again has no message or (spoken) mission statement as clearly indicated by their behavior and comments with the election just days behind them. They will clearly go after their #1 perceived enemy, and that enemy is anyone who embraces conservative principles. They will demonize people such as Cruz and Lee with the same vengeance the libtards went after Palin After all, just because a liberal calls himself a Republican (plenty of names come to mind), does not mean they will not stab us in the back at every opportunity. It just means they truthfully believe we are ignorant fools!
That pretty much sums up what I’m watching those tards on the hill do to us...
In the US we have no such political consensus. Both parties have abandoned the American worker in favor of their corporate paymasters. We bring in 1.1 million legal permanent immigrants a year and have been doing so since 1990. In addition, we have guest worker programs that admit 640,000 a year. These foreign workers take American jobs and depress wages during a time when we have the lowest labor participation rates since 1978.
We had one executive amnesty for the Dreamers in 2012 that legalized, to date. 580,000 and gave them work permits and SSNs. We now have another executive amnesty that will legalize more than 5 million and virtually stop any deportations of the 12 to 20 million illegal aliens. And no doubt there will be a surge of more illegals hoping to take advantage of the new amnesty. They will have plenty of phony documents to get them legalization.
The GOP's response has been mixed to put the best face on it. 20 Reps joined the Dems in not condemning Obama's actions. The amnesty will not be reversed. It will destroy this country.
We will have a third party that will come about as American workers find a way to express their unhappiness with mass immigration. They resent the colonization by the Third World. Europe is ahead of the US when it comes to the impact of immigration on their culture and values. They are starting to fight back in the streets and at the ballot box. The political and corporate elites have real reason to fear the people.
Mark Levin is similar. Yesterday, he was 1 inch away from dumping the GOP. Close, but not quite there.
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Conservatives need to wake up. They have been using that same ‘change from inside’ argument since the Lott/Frist/Hastert era. And they still haven’t made much headway.
In fact, they have sort of lost ground, as Boehner gave the chairmanships to his cronies and moderates. Look for McConnell to do similar.
Conservative women? What does the conservative's sex have to do with it? Conservative men and women are under attack. That's what matters.
RUSH: Well, I tell you what. I am hearing from people who heretofore have sworn off third-party. "No way, Rush. That's a sucker's bet...."
Ironic, since the strategic solution to that sucker's bet is to vote for a Republican president whose documented record proved him squarely on board with five major Democrat tyrannical agendas: government run health care, legal and subsidized abortion, forced "rights" to accommodate open homosexuals, environmentalist control over food and energy production to "save the planet," and activist left-leaning judges, not to mention gun control.
It's a fact, you can look it up. IT WAS A SUCKER'S BET to vote for the guy, Rush!!! Helloooooooooo?????????
*sigh*
You are exactly right, true common sense: Trying to wrest control over the gop wing of the uniparty is a fool’s errand. The uniparty has been crushing upstart challengers for the last 150 years. They’re very, very good at it. There’s no reason to believe today’s conservatives are going to be any more successful than those in the past.
RUSH says: Elections are not quite that simple.
Too smart by half. A vote for Cochran was a vote for a lying traitorous cockroach to represent Republicans. It was quite that simple, and so are the consequences.
RUSH says: I still think taking over the Republican Party is better.
Oh, really! From someone who lives in Realville? Or Wishville?
RUSH: I mean, the Republican Party is not all conservative voters.
"Conservative" as in "use government conservatively, as in limited government," or "conservative" as in "use government to enforce Christian morality"? It seems clear to me that the less government, the more freedom people have to thrive within the Judeo Christian structure; government usurping Christian staples such as charity (entitlement welfare) and the right to civilly reject open homosexuality is what has lead to most of America's moral malaise. It's against the law to "live" Christian, half the time.
Who are "conservative voters," Rush? True conservatism -- that is, advocacy for the LIMITED USE, the conservative use of government, unites MORAL Americans who yearn to be free and to thrive.
Rush is going to be in a very hard place if the GOP moves ahead as scheduled and nominates another Romney.
There is an ocean wide difference between electoral situation in UK versus USA.
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Thank you. Worth repeating.
Where you going to find it?
Nice rant, hotshot. So what IS "the logical solution?" You "forgot" to say.
“I mean, you’ll never have any Republican establishment type or consultant or potential presidential candidate admit this. They will never say, they’ll never admit that the Tea Party is the enemy.” Really, Rush? Really? Are you totally deaf, high or a liar?
We need a Second Party Democrats and Republicans are One Party.
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