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New AR Law Lets Men Block Wives' Abortions
Ozarks First ^

Posted on 02/07/2017 4:28:25 PM PST by SoFloFreeper

A new law in Arkansas that bans the most common procedure used in second-trimester abortions is making international headlines.

Supporters believe the law prohibiting dismemberment abortion benefits the unborn baby, while opponents believe it punishes the mother.

But there's a third life involved: the father.

"What if we said to men, 'Before you can have a vasectomy...,'" said State Sen. Joyce Elliott, D-Little Rock. "That would be so outrageous. But they don't see the outrage in constantly putting the thumb on women to dictate what they can do and not do."

(Excerpt) Read more at ozarksfirst.com ...


TOPICS: Culture/Society; News/Current Events; US: Arkansas
KEYWORDS: humanrights; infanticide; life
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Joyce Elliott, D-Little Rock: thinks the vas deferens is the same as a HUMAN BEING.

Yes, folks, she was elected unopposed in 2014 in the state's 31st Senate district.

Come on, Arkansas....

1 posted on 02/07/2017 4:28:25 PM PST by SoFloFreeper
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To: SoFloFreeper

“”What if we said to men, ‘Before you can have a vasectomy...,’”

Apples and oranges...


2 posted on 02/07/2017 4:31:11 PM PST by babygene (Make America Great Again)
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To: SoFloFreeper

She’s in one of those districts in which no one else can win but her. A lot of it is name ID and party.


3 posted on 02/07/2017 4:31:53 PM PST by Theodore R. (Let's not squander the golden opportunity of 2017.)
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To: babygene
"What if we said to men, 'Before you can have a vasectomy...,'"

Actually, there are many urologists who will not allow the surgery to go forward for a married man unless his wife does indeed sign the form. My former urologist was one.

Former.

4 posted on 02/07/2017 4:33:53 PM PST by FredZarguna (And what Rough Beast, its hour come 'round at last, slouches toward Fifth Avenue to be born?)
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To: babygene

There is no third party involved in a vasectomy.


5 posted on 02/07/2017 4:34:29 PM PST by marktwain (We wanted to tell our side of the story. We hope by us telling our story...)
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To: SoFloFreeper

This will really anger the fangtooth feminazis.


6 posted on 02/07/2017 4:39:06 PM PST by I want the USA back (Media: willing and eager allies of the hate-America left.)
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To: FredZarguna

I have been married for 48 years. My spouse had her tubes tied without my consent decades ago, and I have never forgiven her...


7 posted on 02/07/2017 4:42:31 PM PST by babygene (Make America Great Again)
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To: SoFloFreeper

A vasectomy is the same as killing your baby???


8 posted on 02/07/2017 4:43:29 PM PST by ilovesarah2012
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To: SoFloFreeper

You mean, lets men prevent their sons and daughters from being murdered.


9 posted on 02/07/2017 4:45:39 PM PST by Jim Noble (Die Gedanken sind Frei)
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To: babygene
That's between you and your wife, and not between you, your wife, and her ob/gyn (or your urologist.)

Abortion is different from sterilization because it involves somebody else.

10 posted on 02/07/2017 4:46:23 PM PST by FredZarguna (And what Rough Beast, its hour come 'round at last, slouches toward Fifth Avenue to be born?)
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To: SoFloFreeper

I live here and she is a MORON.

Now what this article may not have said is this, buried in that Bill is that if the woman was raped and conceived, the rapist can stop the Abortion.


11 posted on 02/07/2017 4:49:15 PM PST by Captain Peter Blood
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To: FredZarguna

“That’s between you and your wife, and not between you, your wife”

Well DUHA...


12 posted on 02/07/2017 4:56:22 PM PST by babygene (Make America Great Again)
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To: SoFloFreeper

AR is red everything (National and State); there is not much to be critical about. Some districts or counties still slide through the cracks but that is just a state office, not national. She won’t hold much sway.


13 posted on 02/07/2017 4:57:01 PM PST by BeadCounter
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To: SoFloFreeper

I knew of this law but I did not know of the ramifications.


14 posted on 02/07/2017 4:57:25 PM PST by BeadCounter
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To: SoFloFreeper

vasectomy can be undone. I know of at least two


15 posted on 02/07/2017 4:59:54 PM PST by UB355 (Slower traffic keep right)
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To: babygene
Well DUHA...

The Duha prayer is the voluntary, Islamic prayer between the obligatory Islamic prayers, Fajr and Dhuhr.

The point is, the woman claimed it would be outrageous for men to have to get their wives' permission for a vas. I agree, it would be outrageous, and it does happen.

But aside from permission, which is one thing, no partner in what I consider a decent marriage would undertake this decision if his/her spouse was against it.

Regardless of my opinion, it isn't the business of anyone outside the marriage.

16 posted on 02/07/2017 5:09:23 PM PST by FredZarguna (And what Rough Beast, its hour come 'round at last, slouches toward Fifth Avenue to be born?)
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To: SoFloFreeper

Poor left loon mothers, equating semen with the life of little boys and girls...theirs and the father’s children.


17 posted on 02/07/2017 5:14:09 PM PST by jacknhoo (Luke 12:51; Think ye, that I am come to give peace on earth? I tell you, no; but separation.)
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To: babygene

It’s true that a man’s sterilization surgery is not the sane as homicide (abortion) of course-— killing your baby is far more serious than maiming yourself sexually.

But as a matter of justice, a man should not sterilize himself without his wife’s knowledge and consent. (And the same for a wife sterilizing herself.)

Assuming they are both physiologically normal and of childbearing age, husbands and wives have a reasonable expectation that they will be able to have children together. Traditionally, their bodies (complete in every detail) belong to each other, since they have given themselves to each other in sexual union and are now one flesh.

For either one of them to sabotage himself or herself sexually, would be a kind of fraud.


18 posted on 02/07/2017 5:21:19 PM PST by Mrs. Don-o (Body positive.)
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To: Captain Peter Blood

is the accused “rapist” a husband? Or a stranger?


19 posted on 02/07/2017 5:24:47 PM PST by SoFloFreeper (Isaiah 25:8)
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To: Captain Peter Blood
buried in that Bill is that if the woman was raped and conceived, the rapist can stop the Abortion.

That's the "poison pill" to ensure the bill gets killed.

20 posted on 02/07/2017 5:26:11 PM PST by Drew68
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