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BREAKING: Defense Secretary Slips Up, Reveals Obama Admin LED IRAN Straight to Our Sailors
Conservative Tribune ^ | 1/14/16 | By: Wilmot Proviso

Posted on 01/14/2016 11:21:42 AM PST by blueyon

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To: AdmSmith; AnonymousConservative; Berosus; bigheadfred; Bockscar; cardinal4; ColdOne; ...

"First came the fact that President Barack Obama refused to address the arrest of 10 of our sailors by the Iranian military after their boats had mechanical trouble at sea. Then came news that the Obama administration had offered the Iranians an apology for the release of the sailors. Now comes the disturbing revelation, apparently delivered by Defense Secretary Ashton Carter, that the Obama administration tipped off the Iranians that our soldiers were lost at sea and requested their aid."


141 posted on 01/14/2016 3:45:14 PM PST by SunkenCiv (Here's to the day the forensics people scrape what's left of Putin off the ceiling of his limo.)
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To: Whenifhow; Travis McGee
Iran has spoofed our GPS before. The last time that they did it, they brought done a USA drone for a soft landing inside Iran.

Likewise, the Russians like to shift our GPS coords now and again, just for grins.

The tech is available.

That doesn't explain both boats becoming disabled simultaneously, though. Moreover, the "mechanical problem" story is further contradicted by both boats leaving the next day under their own power with no mention of a repair for either.

Which is to say: the "Official Story" requires at least 3 leaps of faith: navigation problem, mechanical problem, and communications problem on both boats, simultaneously.

142 posted on 01/14/2016 3:51:14 PM PST by Southack (The one thing preppers need from the 1st World? http://tinyurl.com/ktfwljc .)
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To: PGR88

So ‘ASS Carter’ said today:

“They obviously had misnavigated ... that’s how they believe they ended up in this circumstance,” he added. “They did not report this navigational error at the time. It may be that they were trying to sort it out at the time they encountered Iranian boats. ... We don’t know that fully yet.”

http://www.stripes.com/news/middle-east/carter-navigation-error-appears-to-have-led-to-persian-gulf-incident-with-iran-1.388751

I heard on a news report that also the Administration said that the nav error was just a ‘Fat Finger’ mistake...

What a croc!


143 posted on 01/14/2016 4:03:18 PM PST by KeyLargo
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To: blueyon

I’m convinced the who thing was planned, by both countries, from the start to provide cover for releasing the $150B. It went just a bit TOO SMOOTH for any thing else.


144 posted on 01/14/2016 4:15:55 PM PST by BobL (Who cares? He's going to build a wall and stop this invasion.)
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To: Hot Tabasco

I asked you first. It was your theory.


145 posted on 01/14/2016 5:19:59 PM PST by Kudsman (Restore the Republic, repeal the 17th.)
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To: SunkenCiv; Candor7

And if I were an ayatollah, I wouldn’t accept the offering of 10 sailors from the zero administration as a gift, but I would take the 150 billion.
Why...question mark...because it all smells like a set-up that would please no one more than the evil kingdom, an excuse to attack the hated shia, using the USA as the tail that wags the sunni dog.
Wasted 150 billion. Iran is not buying what zero is selling or giving away.


146 posted on 01/14/2016 5:22:27 PM PST by Fred Nerks (FAIR DINKUM!)
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To: camle

Nah, you wouldn’t use lowly echelon sailors.


147 posted on 01/14/2016 5:25:41 PM PST by moehoward
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To: Southack

“Likewise, the Russians like to shift our GPS coords now and again, just for grins. “


Yes, but what about their compass? Surly those boats are outfitted with a magnetic compass.


148 posted on 01/14/2016 5:27:24 PM PST by moehoward
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To: blueyon
so the FIRST thing their chain of command did was call the faggot in chief instead of sending assistance???

something is verrrry wrong with this picture...

149 posted on 01/14/2016 5:40:06 PM PST by Chode (Stand UP and Be Counted, or line up and be numbered - *DTOM* -w- NO Pity for the LAZY - Luke, 22:36)
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To: blueyon
Guess who's wearing the hijab now, 0Muslim?


150 posted on 01/14/2016 5:54:32 PM PST by kiryandil ("When Muslims in the White House are outlawed, only Barack Obama will be an outlaw")
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To: blueyon

Treason.

True enough.

Except 0bama’s their ally, making us the largest state sponsor of terrorism.


151 posted on 01/14/2016 5:56:41 PM PST by combat_boots (The Lion of Judah cometh. Hallelujah. Gloria Patri, Filio et Spiritui Sancto!)
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To: jonrick46

The similarities in style of fictitious narrative are striking.


152 posted on 01/14/2016 6:50:35 PM PST by wtd
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To: moehoward; Travis McGee; Squantos; wardaddy

Your compass swings while sailing. It’s never as precise as GPS, so it is frequently dissed when GPS is available.

GPS jamming of the small riverine craft would likely have been noticed by our nearby carrier task force, however, and would *certainly* have been in the SigInt haul of the NSA (even if a small local disturbance was in play).

Moreover, jamming the *communications* of the riverine craft would have been noticed. No question that the carrier task force on the one hand and the NSA with entirely different assets would have noticed com jammers.

In fact, if the GPS and communications jamming went unnoticed, then *we* have an even bigger problem than the capture of 2 craft and 10 servicemen.

Of course, there may not have been any jamming. The 2 craft may have gone where ordered.

Or the 2 craft may have been led by an idiot who didn’t know how to sail. Happens.

They managed to get close to Farsi Island (Iranian military base), however, so their path doesn’t *appear* to be a coincidental example of randomly poor navigation skills.

My best *guess* at this moment is that the 2 riverine craft were extraction units.

If we learn of some SpecOps who “died in training accidents” in the next month, then our guys didn’t make it out of Farsi Island.

And if we hear of no training accidents in the next month, then I’d expect that our guys got out...perhaps not with *that* extraction team, though.


153 posted on 01/14/2016 6:53:50 PM PST by Southack (The one thing preppers need from the 1st World? http://tinyurl.com/ktfwljc .)
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To: blueyon; COUNTrecount; Nowhere Man; FightThePower!; C. Edmund Wright; jacob allen; Travis McGee; ...

At no point in history has any government ever wanted its people to be defenseless for any good reason ~ nully's son

The biggest killer of mankind

Nut-job Conspiracy Theory Ping!

To get onto The Nut-job Conspiracy Theory Ping List you must threaten to report me to the Mods if I don't add you to the list...


154 posted on 01/14/2016 7:12:37 PM PST by null and void (This war starts in the spiritual realm-it will end in ours though.)
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To: driftdiver

I had freq hopping explained to me 10 years ago or so, but call signs were in a book, same with daiy call signs

man, is it a paperless world?
I am sure they can access something if a gun is held to someone’s head


155 posted on 01/14/2016 7:20:10 PM PST by RaceBannon (Rom 5:8 But God commendeth his love toward us, in that, while we were yet sinners, Christ died for)
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To: RaceBannon

They are pretty much black boxes. Mess with them and they zero themselves.


156 posted on 01/14/2016 7:25:54 PM PST by driftdiver (I could eat it raw, but why do that when I have a fire.)
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To: blueyon

I think Obama made us pay “Humiliating Jaziya Tax” by using the boats as an offering of humiliation...


157 posted on 01/14/2016 7:26:25 PM PST by GraceG (Protect the Border from Illegal Aliens, Don't Protect Illegal Alien Boarders...)
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To: camle

Whatever it is, I hope it doesn’t detonate high over the US anytime soon...


158 posted on 01/14/2016 7:42:48 PM PST by butterdezillion
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To: Iron Munro

Post of the day!


159 posted on 01/14/2016 7:51:13 PM PST by butterdezillion
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To: camle

Agreed. Someone on one of those boats is tied to 0bama/Jarret and/or the agency


160 posted on 01/14/2016 8:00:46 PM PST by sten (fighting tyranny never goes out of style)
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