Why all the Confiscation talk from the Democratic National Socialist Party?

11/4/2015

[Torcert]

In days of yore the Lie was 'No one is talking about Confiscation', but something has changed as of late. Such talk is now common amongst the national Socialist elite despite the lack of a shooting being prevalent in the media.

It is axiomatic that one does not call for confiscation until its foundational steps are in place: Intergalactic Background Checks and Registration. The reason should be clear to everyone, people need to be fooled into registering their firearms with the solemn promise that it won't lead to confiscation. This was the case in the UK for example, were the people were required to register their guns while their fears of them being taken were assuaged with promises that this would not be the case. Eyewitness history informs us that this was the case in national socialist Germany in the 1930's as well.

So why are the nation's Socialists stoking fears of Gun confiscation:

OBAMA ENDORSES AUSTRALIAN-STYLE GUN CONFISCATION
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nKSvxz5LHHw
Clinton Announces Massive Gun Control Plan http://dailycaller.com/2015/10/16/clinton-announces-massive-gun-control-plan/ via @dailycaller
Hillary thinks Australian-style gun control measures ‘worth considering’ [video] http://twitchy.com/2015/10/16/consider-moving-there-hillary-thinks-australian-style-gun-control-measures-worth-considering-video/
Clinton: Australian-Style Gun Control ‘Worth Considering’ for U.S.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JctBYrIaKvY
Video: New Hillary ad demands more gun control http://hotair.com/archives/2015/11/03/video-new-hillary-ad-demands-more-gun-control/
Yes, They Want to Take Your Guns Away http://thebea.st/1HmJOfM via @thedailybeast
A gun-free society http://wapo.st/1LrJxz3

Do they not realize this will destroy any possibility of obtaining the stepping stone to confiscation –Registration?
They have called for the incremental approach before, they have dropped that LIE for the nuclear option of Confiscation.

Just what could be taking place?

Ponder these points:
1. The tried and true sequence of background checks (Intergalactic and otherwise), Registration followed by Confiscation has worked in the past because people back then didn't have the perspective of history to guide them.

2. The Sandy hook shooting was probably one the best and LAST chance for them to implement registration. Recall that Obama has just stolen.. been elected to a 2nd term and the Democratic National Socialist party was on top of the world. And they failed in this effort.

3. With this past history in mind, they are now "Petal to the Metal" in favour of Confiscation without any pretenses or falsehoods to cover it.

Is it just that the nation's Socialist have gone 'round the bend, or can we explain this Phenomena?

Allow me to Prognosticate what may be happening:

1. They think they can LIE their way out of this one.
Always a possibility, but why bother with talk of the 'C' word in the first place? They can pull in the 'something for nothing crowd'(in this case safety) with their basic tripe about the subject without the needing to fool others later on... No, that isn't the explanation..

2. Now that they've made the big mistake of admitting the obvious, they have no other choice than their current course of action. This is also a plausible reason, but they haven';t had qualms about lying in the past and this issue is certainly no exception. .. No, were this the case they would simply say that they were taken of context and don't believe you're lying eyes (or ears as the case may be) and move on without compounding the problem with more talk of the same..

3. It is a rope a dope -Get the Pro-Liberty Conservative side of the aisle to overreact and thus make them look reasonable by comparison (as if that is even possible).
This is admittedly a better rationale, but its possible benefits don't counterbalance the danger in admitting to their end game.

4. Desperation - The nation's leftists are realizing their chances for implementing Socialism and Confiscation are slipping away and they are acting out in desperation. What this may yield them is very hard to discern, but these circumstances breed recklessness.

Perhaps they think that this Confiscation talk will intimidate (the opposite to 4.) the Pro-Liberty side and get us to compromise on Intergalactic Background Checks.
Perhaps they think that they can confiscate our guns without the ruse of registration.
I just don't know at this point.

5. They want to lose. Let me repeat that: They want to lose.

Before you adjudicate me daft, let me defend my prognostication by first explaining how they want to lose first before addressing the question of Why.

The 'How' is simple - bring up the death Nell for any campaign out side the national socialist elite circles. Hilary is doing this with an ad for Gun Control along with the afore mentioned Confiscation talk.

Now, the Why is a little more tricky...Which brings us back to the beginning.... And thus the reason for writing this...

So what do you think people?

Are explanations 4 and 5 plausible or is there any other rationale for what the leftist national Socialist American Workers' party is doing these day?

[Biggirl]

But this time around, they come out the biggest losers.

[Qiviut]

To add more fuel to the fire .... their gun laws aren't working so well .....

Low SAFE Act numbers hint at non-compliance in NY

in part because ....

Gun Rights Advocates Have A Devastating New Argument Against Gun Control. Here It Is.

and campaigning on gun control isn't working out so well ....

Did gun control cost McAuliffe and Democrats the Virginia election?

The answer to the above question is "yes".

I can't connect the dots ... why Dems would continue to do things that don't work and then lose elections by either doing it or talking about it. The only thing I can think of is they are so out of touch with reality that they think eventually, if they SAY it's so, it WILL somehow be the reality. It's worked in the past with a lot of their other lies (except the Repubs are now taking away an effective weapon - the media). Eventually, if they tell enough lies, it's like the little boy who cried 'wolf' ... nobody believes them ... in the case of Obama, he's become Baghdad Barack. Hilly even shows up in the polls (words that describe) as a liar. Maybe they really are trying to light a fire under their lethargic base ..... it's just backfired and the Republican base is red-lining on the gun issue and has gone nuclear.

[Torcert]

I can't connect the dots ... why Dems would continue to do things that don't work and then lose elections by either doing it or talking about it. The only thing I can think of is they are so out of touch with reality that they think eventually, if they SAY it's so, it WILL somehow be the reality.

Yes, this is why I posted this - I'm scratching my head trying to figure out why they are doing then when it defies all logic.

Make no mistake - I'm glad they are 'coming out' of the Confiscation closet so to speak because it bodes well for the cause of freedom. But when your enemy takes very odd actions, it tends to make you stand in wonderment over them.

And it could be the case where they've convinced themselves that they are winning and that it's only a matter of time before the lamp of Liberty is extinguished by their "Liberal" actions.

Thank you so very kindly for posting those other items, it is well appreciated

[MikeSteelBe]

“If you’ve purchased in the last 20 or 30 or however many years they’re registered because BATF isn’t destroying the records turned in to them by FFLs going out of business or upgrading to electronic records.”

That is a violation of the McClure-Volkmer Firearms Owners Protection Act of 1986.

This current regime does not give a rat’s ass about obeying the law, and they will continue to commit acts of treason until someone stops them. Do not expect their co-conspirators in congress to lift a finger either.

[Georgia Girl 2]

This is not new. Libtards always get around to registration and confiscation at some point. Its a cycle. They are real good at talking about it but pretty crappy at trying to do it. :-)

[Norm Lenhart]

Hope springs eternal.

[MrB]

I’m going with 4) Desperation.

They see their narrow window closing.
They got Obamacare slammed through in a very small window,
and see the same small window for confiscation.

[Torcert]

This is very true, but this time around it's different.

They've never been this blatant about it.

BTW, I found a word that fits better: 'communard'

Definition of communard
noun
1A member of a commune.
Origin Late 19th century: from French, from commune1.
https://www.oxforddictionaries.com/definition/english/communard

[JimRed]

...they will continue to commit acts of treason until someone stops them.

But who, exactly are "they"? Those who give the orders, obviously. They are the one who must have "accidents" or simply disappear.

[Torcert]

Yes, most of the leftists who are grounded in reality (few and far between) have to be seeing the hand writing on the wall and are desperate for that one last chance at disarming the people.

After all, the left’s Socialist national agenda can only be implemented at the point of a gun, and you can’t very well do that when the people can shoot back.

I would almost venture it’s almost two-fold answer - desperation on the part of leftist who know what is going on...

...and the assumption of inevitability on the part of those out of touch.

[Georgia Girl 2]

Dianne Slimestein has been calling for door to door confiscation for years. Its easy to talk about this kind of thing but really tough to put it into action.

Obama wanted to send troops to the Bundy ranch. The Pentagon said “Uh no way you moron” There is always somebody who does not want to hang from a light standard on Pennsylvania Avenue. :-)

[Torcert]

Well, the first thing they need to do is have a list of what everyone has... after all of those “Boating accidents”..

There actions are very strange - entertaining to a degree - it’s always fun to watch budding totalitarians get their just comeuppance. :-)

[Georgia Girl 2]

Yes they just keep trying for registration ie. universal background checks which will never happen and even if it did nobody will adhere to it. The line in the sand for the American public is guns. If they push too hard CWII commences.

[Kommodor]

You forgot option #6: They believe that they have the 2016 election in the bag already via skewed demographics, fraud, etc., and no longer feel the need to hide their agenda. In fact, they revel in taunting rubbing their enemies noses in it.

[Torcert]

Yes, that was their hard lesson they learned after Sandy Hook - luckily for those of us on the Pro-liberty side, that lesson didn’t take...

[Lazamataz]

It’s my line. If they try confiscation or registration, I go ballistic.

In fact, thats a eff-of-a tagline.

[Georgia Girl 2]

I love it when you talk dirty. :-)

[Torcert]

Hmmmm.. No offense, but I hope you are wrong in that assessment..

But one has to be honest and realize that is a possibility... and if so we are in deep excrement indeed.

My hope is that it’s not to late to save the country and the cause of Liberty.

Just listing to young leftist spout their absurd definitions of socialism does cause one to lose hope..

VIDEO: Bernie Sanders Supporters Explain Socialism and How Obama Shares Their Views | MRCTV http://www.mrctv.org/blog/video-sanders-supporters-explain-socialism

[Lazamataz]

I have a long, warm barrel. :)

[sergeantdave]

I don’t know. You lost me at the end. Perhaps you can summarize your conclusion in a single paragraph...