Posted on 03/05/2015 5:57:38 PM PST by sukhoi-30mki
Unexpected victor ... The 30-year-old French nucler powered attack submarine Saphir. Source: Wikipedia Source: Supplied
WITH a good submarine, a navy can do amazing things. Ask the French. They’ve just managed to “sink” a nuclear-powered US super carrier — and half its battle group.
The French Ministry of Defence has revealed one of its attack submarines pulled of an astounding upset during recent war-games in the North Atlantic.
The Aviationist blog spotted an article on the French defence force’s website — quickly withdrawn — which told how one of their submarines, the “Saphir” tackled the might of the United States’ navy off the coast of Florida.
Formidable force ... The aircraft carrier USS Theodore Roosevelt with a protecive force of cruisers, destroyers and frigates. A recent exercise saw this expansive, and expensive, defence force bypassed by a French submarine. Source: USN Source: Supplied
At the core of the surface force was the enormous aircraft carrier USS Theodore Roosevelt and its powerful strike wing of 90 combat aircraft and helicopters.
Clustered protectively about it was several advanced cruisers and destroyers, and its own guardian submarine.
In one element of the war games, the Saphir was tasked with the role of being the “bad guy”.
It’s mission: To seek, locate and exterminate the US naval force.
The exact details of how it achieved this embarrassing outcome is not known.
Somehow, the French submarine must have been able to slip between the defensive sensor patchwork of patrol aircraft, helicopters, warships and submarines to line up a shot on the $13 billion monstrosity.
There she lurked as a fictitious political crisis evolved in the world above.
On the final day of the exercise, the order finaly came.
Sink the Theodore Roosevelt.
(Excerpt) Read more at news.com.au ...
When O is done... Iran will be able to defeat us.
My understanding is that there are new, totally non-acoustic methods of ASW tracking that are reliable and increasingly inexpensive.
I mean theoretically the sub could be completely SILENT and some adversaries can still get a good idea of where the subs are, almost continually.
Utility of carriers sunsetting now..?
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Why is this unclassified? Oh that’s right, to embarrass the United States, I forgot.
Since when is Florida in the North Atlantic?
We should have learned from WW II.
A friend of mine (Lt Cmdr - Navy) and I were walking UNDER the USS JFKennedy (CV67). It was “up” in dry dock. (It makes the hairs on your head tingle when you walk under it! :-) But I said to him, “Wow, this thing is so huge, how could the bad guys ever sink it?!!” He said, “If you know where to throw the hand grenade, it isn’t too difficult!” Of course I laughed along with him ... but I also never forgot what he said! This reminded me of that day long ago.
Wow. Why don’t they make a USS Death Star or USS Battlestar Galactica so these navies can continue in their fantasy that in a real war, their navies could barely muster a fight..
There are. I have worked on some of them.
In a real conflict, that sub would have been splatted about 5 minutes after hostilities ensued.
Despite Obama, our carriers are VERY hard to attack, let alone sink.
You can find most of the information about this technology online if you know where to look, so I am not disclosing any secrets.
The way zero is going with his social experiment in the military and trying as hard as he can to make us weaker then this does not surprise me at all.
I’m sure the Chinese and Russians are watching these war games and they are taking comfort in all of this.
Well Florida is above the Equator.
Technically North Atlantic....
I see the US didn’t have a fast-attack sub on station for this excercize - French sub would have gone down without even a whimper.
It used the Denali s a het came up between the screws and them made a run on the Roosevelt and shot from the hip Text book
Hell the 245 strong Royal Antigua and Barbuda Defence Force will be able to defeat us once zero is done.
Ok these “games” are ridiculous. The sub starts out a few miles from the CVBG in almost perfect position. This does not reflect reality. In a hot war scenario a US CVBG would not go into a high “probability” area for a sub to begin with. Every subs position form the time it leaves port to the time it returns from patrol is tracked. Thru classified means, the subs AOP-Area of Probability would be calculated and AOP plotted. Now the better the ASW tracking the smaller the AOP. Sometimes the bad guy is lost and the AOP’s do get big until it is located again and it’s AOP shrinks again(a new datum is established). CVBG’s do NOT GO INTO AOP’s unless the mission is super critical. ASW is a game of statistics and probability. These fictitious exercises are stupid.
Active Duty ping.
War is by it’s nature full of surprises.
If we ever engage in an all out war with an adversary with a modern military we are going to take frighteningly heavy losses.
So will they.
Go read the war reports from WWII and multiply the destruction by a factor of 10 and the pace of the action by a factor of 3.
That is good to know, I was beginning to wonder if this exercise was the result of king O’s homo push in the field commands.
Cause theyar making a klingon War Bird.
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