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Britain’s Single-Payer Horror Show: Report Details NHS Body Count
Pajamas Media ^ | 07/26/2013 | Mike McNally

Posted on 07/26/2013 10:04:45 AM PDT by SeekAndFind

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1 posted on 07/26/2013 10:04:45 AM PDT by SeekAndFind
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I don't know why anyone would want single-payer. I guess you pay 1.5 percent of your salary for free medical care. Seniors do this now under medicare and I don't know of any senior who likes this program. People are delusional.
2 posted on 07/26/2013 10:11:31 AM PDT by napscoordinator (Santorum-Bachmann 2016 for the future of the Country!)
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To: SeekAndFind

There is no way I would describe David Cameron as “conservative”


3 posted on 07/26/2013 10:14:11 AM PDT by GeronL
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To be fair, the British Single-Payer system was in place LONG before Cameron took office...


4 posted on 07/26/2013 10:18:50 AM PDT by SeekAndFind
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To: SeekAndFind

No doubt, but they really need to rename their party the LSTTOP, Less Socialist Than The Other Party


5 posted on 07/26/2013 10:28:47 AM PDT by GeronL
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To: napscoordinator
Here is something else Medicare patients have to pay for besides $105 monthly. http://www.forbes.com/sites/scottgottlieb/2013/03/27/medicare-has-stopped-paying-bills-for-medical-diagnostic-tests-patients-will-feel-the-effects/

My aunt had a simple test which cost her $70.00. Medicare did not pay; nor, did her Medicare supplemental plan.

6 posted on 07/26/2013 10:30:40 AM PDT by Bronzy
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At least she was allowed to pay for the test.
7 posted on 07/26/2013 10:35:28 AM PDT by USFRIENDINVICTORIA
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To: SeekAndFind

Perhaps what is needed in the UK is more tort lawyers. Can you imagine the lawsuits if a US hospital left patients in soiled beds, stuck in ambulances etc. Maybe we should export a few thousand tort lawyers to the UK.


8 posted on 07/26/2013 10:40:17 AM PDT by The Great RJ (construction)
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To: SeekAndFind

The one thing no one brings up when discussing the Obamacare death panels is the government revenue of 40% of the patient’s private retirement if he/she dies.

It has already been discussed that economics would play a role in determining who would receive what services as soon as rationing is started. It being clear that someone who has a long taxpaying life ahead of them would be a better investment than a retiree.

But if you factor in the bonus the government receives from 40% the patient’s private IRA or 401(k) if he dies - that is an incentive to ensure as many baby boomers as possible die before using up the money they saved, so the government can get their hands on it.

Is it just a coincidence that the total private retirement accounts of the US total around 17 trillion, and Obama says that with a debt of 16 trillion, we have plenty of money?

Please think this thought through.


9 posted on 07/26/2013 10:43:23 AM PDT by gspurlock (http://www.backyardfence.wordpress.com)
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That Kate Middleton and Prince William did not use Britain’s NHS to have their baby should tell people something.


10 posted on 07/26/2013 10:51:50 AM PDT by raisetheroof ("To become Red is to become dead --- gradually." Alexander Solzhenitsyn)
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I worked for 20 years at a very large,and very famous,hospital.When I arrived the hospital was clearly run by physicians and nurses.When I left,it was run by lawyers and accountants.Soon,that hospital...and *every* other hospital in the land...will be run by politicians and “community organizers”.Of course all the hospitals that tend to attract the rich,famous and “connected” (in cities like Boston,NYC,DC,Chicago,LA and SF) will have secret wings reserved for a very exclusive clientele in which patients wait for an hour for a major heart operation while the rest of us will wait six months *just* like they do in Canada and Britain.
11 posted on 07/26/2013 10:52:35 AM PDT by Gay State Conservative (If Obama Had A City It Would Look Like Detroit.)
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To: Bronzy
Medicare doesn't pay for everything. As for the supplemental policy paying or not paying, there are many different policies and many different companies providing, so, the general rule is that the more you pay, the better the coverage.

From my perspective, the Advantage Plan is/was a better deal than supplemental coverage.

12 posted on 07/26/2013 11:04:09 AM PDT by Ben Ficklin
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To: raisetheroof; Squawk 8888
That Kate Middleton and Prince William did not use Britain’s NHS to have their baby should tell people something.

IMO there's even a better example.A few years ago,Danny Williams,the Premier of one of Canada's provinces (can't recall which one) needed heart surgery.He's a leftist who was a big supporter of Canada's health system but when *his* time came he didn't go to Montreal,Toronto or Vancouver for his care,he came to the US.That event got some publicity in Canada,much of it negative.IIRC,his response was something like "hey,it's my body and it's my right to make personal decisions regarding my health".

I had some debates on a couple of Canadian websites about this and the response from the Canucks was "of course he'd go to Florida.It's winter and it's much better to recover from major surgery in a warm climate".I kid you not.

Of course my response was "if I needed major heart surgery I'd go to damn Kabul,Nairobi or Tierra Del Fuego if that's where the best work is done".

13 posted on 07/26/2013 11:08:56 AM PDT by Gay State Conservative (If Obama Had A City It Would Look Like Detroit.)
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To: raisetheroof
LONDON's OLYMPIC CELEBRATION OF THE NHS


14 posted on 07/26/2013 11:18:53 AM PDT by SeekAndFind
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Danny Williams, premier of Newfoundland and Labrador, apparently needed surgery on a leaky heart valve, a problem discovered when doctors detected a heart murmur. According to news accounts, he chose to have the surgery done in Florida...


15 posted on 07/26/2013 11:22:00 AM PDT by SeekAndFind
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To: The Great RJ

There’s that, and also the fact that the greatest consumers of health care (the elderly) are also the biggest voting block.


16 posted on 07/26/2013 11:55:43 AM PDT by steelhead_trout
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more focused on meeting government-imposed targets than on patient care.


Hooray Socialism!


17 posted on 07/26/2013 11:58:28 AM PDT by Rides_A_Red_Horse (Why do you need a fire extinguisher when you can call the fire department?)
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The report further accused hospital staff of being more focused on meeting government-imposed targets than on patient care.

This is true of all communist run orgs. In the old Soviet Union factories would gauge their output depending on the mandates by the government.For instance a nail manufacturing plant might have their quota set for pounds of nails per month, in that case they would produce only one size nail, the largest possible. If the quota was in number of nails, again only one size, the smallest nail possible. Such is the way of socialism.

In the case of healthcare, the object is to spend as little as possible on each patient, therefore who cares if they patient is actually receiving care? Let them die, the books will balance and make the commissars happy.

18 posted on 07/26/2013 12:03:41 PM PDT by calex59
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bump


19 posted on 07/26/2013 12:54:27 PM PDT by gibsosa
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bump


20 posted on 07/26/2013 1:06:50 PM PDT by gibsosa
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