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U.N. passes sweeping international arms regulation viewed by some as Second Amendment override
washington times ^ | 4/2/13 | David Sherfinski

Posted on 04/02/2013 9:47:36 AM PDT by ColdOne

The United Nations General Assembly on Tuesday signed off on a sweeping, first-of-its-kind treaty to regulate the international arms trade, brushing aside worries from U.S. gun rights advocates that the pact could lead to a national firearms registry and disrupt the American gun market.

The long-debated U.N. Arms Trade Treaty (ATT) requires countries to regulate and control the export of weaponry such as battle tanks, combat vehicles and aircraft and attack helicopters, as well as parts and ammunition for such weapons. It also provides that signatories will not violate arms embargoes, international treaties regarding illicit trafficking, or sell weaponry to a countries for genocide, crimes against humanity or other war crimes.

With the Obama administration supporting the final treaty draft, the General Assembly vote was 154 to 3, with 23 abstentions.

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1 posted on 04/02/2013 9:47:36 AM PDT by ColdOne
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To: ColdOne

Not in my house! NO, NO, NO!


2 posted on 04/02/2013 9:48:31 AM PDT by rktman (BACKGROUND CHECKS? YOU FIRST MR. PRESIDENT!(not that we'd get the truth!))
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To: harpseal; TexasCowboy; nunya bidness; AAABEST; Travis McGee; Squantos; wku man; SLB; ...
Click the Gadsden flag for pro-gun resources!
3 posted on 04/02/2013 9:52:39 AM PDT by Joe Brower (The "American People" are no longer capable of self-governance.)
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To: rktman

Here it comes. The President will sign it and expect the Senate to do the same in kind. He will shame them and blame them for violence around the world if they don’t.


4 posted on 04/02/2013 9:53:56 AM PDT by rarestia (It's time to water the Tree of Liberty.)
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To: ColdOne

5 posted on 04/02/2013 9:54:18 AM PDT by Obama_Is_Sabotaging_America (PRISON AT BENGHAZI?????)
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To: ColdOne

It will never affect my gun ownership in any way. They can stick their own guns up their asses and pull the triggers for all I care.


6 posted on 04/02/2013 9:54:29 AM PDT by rlmorel (1793 French Jacobins and 2012 American Liberals have a lot in common.)
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To: ColdOne

I look forward to Blue Helmet target shooting with 30’06 black tips.


7 posted on 04/02/2013 9:55:24 AM PDT by Gaffer
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To: ColdOne

Satan moves for World Control.


8 posted on 04/02/2013 9:55:28 AM PDT by bmwcyle (People who do not study history are destine to believe really ignorant statements.)
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To: Gaffer

Just had my CMP Garand delivered Monday. I’ll join ya!


9 posted on 04/02/2013 9:57:17 AM PDT by Renegade
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To: Gaffer

165 grain .300 Win Mags. He he.


10 posted on 04/02/2013 10:00:05 AM PDT by Resolute Conservative
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To: ColdOne

Don’t worry: there are a lot of Democrats in the Senate in tough re-election campaigns. It’ll never pass the Senate. :)

-What they said about Obamacare in March 2010....


11 posted on 04/02/2013 10:01:21 AM PDT by Tzimisce (The American Revolution began when the British attempted to disarm the Colonists.)
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To: rlmorel

“It will never affect my gun ownership in any way. “

As long as you don’t plan on getting a new one, that is probably true, but you may not be able to get the ammo you want.


12 posted on 04/02/2013 10:02:14 AM PDT by DBrow
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To: ColdOne

Bye-bye, surplus ammo.


13 posted on 04/02/2013 10:07:49 AM PDT by ozzymandus
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To: Renegade; Gaffer

C’n I come too? I have some ordnance.

Somebody should tell the NINC (narcissist in chief) that no treaty supersedes the Constitution, and if he tries to enforce an unconstitutional treaty, it would be legal grounds for “replacing an oppressive government.”

Although, I do believe that he overstepped that boundary a long time ago.


14 posted on 04/02/2013 10:09:58 AM PDT by TheOldLady
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To: TheOldLady

Sounds like a plan!


15 posted on 04/02/2013 10:11:43 AM PDT by Renegade
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To: Tzimisce
Under Article II, Section 2 of the Constitution, Senate ratification of a treaty requires that "two thirds of the Senators present concur."

If the Senate ratifies the U.N. arms control treaty, we will have lots of RINOs to blame along with Democrats. I seem to recall that some of the former as well as some of the latter are up for reelection next year.

16 posted on 04/02/2013 10:16:42 AM PDT by DanMiller (Dan Miller)
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To: ColdOne
As a child, I never imagined that I could end up as a political prisoner, Gulag-style, right here at home.

Now I can see it happening to me. But not without a fight.

17 posted on 04/02/2013 10:16:46 AM PDT by RetroSexual
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To: ColdOne

Presumably the US voted FOR it too, instead of vetoing it.

You can thank Obama. He is going to get your guns one way or another.

“The U.S., however, indicated last week that it would vote for the treaty despite opposition from the pro-gun group, Reuters reported.

The National Rifle Association has portrayed the draft treaty as a threat to gun ownership rights enshrined in the U.S. Constitution and has lobbied to defeat the proposal at the U.N. The NRA last week praised the Senate’s passage of an amendment to the Democratic budget proposal that would prevent the U.S. from entering into the treaty.”

UN adopts pact to regulate multibillion-dollar global arms trade

http://www.foxnews.com/world/2013/04/02/un-adopts-pact-to-regulate-multibillion-dollar-global-arms-trade/


18 posted on 04/02/2013 10:18:18 AM PDT by Innovative ("Winning isn't everything, it's the only thing." -- Vince Lombardi)
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To: TheOldLady; Renegade; Gaffer

count me in. always wondered what these odd looking blue tips will do.


19 posted on 04/02/2013 10:18:54 AM PDT by absolootezer0 (2x divorced tattooed pierced harley hatin meghan mccain luvin' REAL beer drinkin' smoker ..what?)
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To: Renegade

How long did it take to get the M1?


20 posted on 04/02/2013 10:19:12 AM PDT by Texas Fossil
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To: Tzimisce

“-What they said about Obamacare in March 2010....”

BINGO!!!!

How right you are - sad, but true.


21 posted on 04/02/2013 10:20:03 AM PDT by Innovative ("Winning isn't everything, it's the only thing." -- Vince Lombardi)
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To: Resolute Conservative

Yep 200 gr. Hornady FTX in 348 Winchester.

Thumper.


22 posted on 04/02/2013 10:20:30 AM PDT by Texas Fossil
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To: Gaffer

You and me both, bro. I’ve been saving mine for that ‘rainy day’. Looks like it’s going to be a hard rain indeed.


23 posted on 04/02/2013 10:22:00 AM PDT by Noumenon (What would Michael Collins do?)
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To: RetroSexual
As a child, I never imagined that I could end up as a political prisoner, Gulag-style, right here at home.

History has an important lesson to teach in that regard: better to die like a free man with a pile a spent cartridge cases at your feet than like an animal in one of those slaughterhouses.

24 posted on 04/02/2013 10:24:26 AM PDT by Noumenon (What would Michael Collins do?)
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To: ColdOne

We live with a government subject to our Constitution & our Bill of Rights, not nutty measures set by the U.N.

Write, email or call your US Senators and tell them to vote against any foreign treaty or proposed law that diminishes our Second Amendment or other rights.


25 posted on 04/02/2013 10:25:48 AM PDT by RicocheT (Eat the rich only if you're certain it's your last meal)
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To: ColdOne

Go ahead, pull that trigger, punk!

[UN has no say.] Fate = Kyoto Protocol


26 posted on 04/02/2013 10:28:19 AM PDT by Sir Napsalot (Pravda + Useful Idiots = CCCP; JournOList + Useful Idiots = DopeyChangey!)
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To: rktman

LMAO! great commercial


27 posted on 04/02/2013 10:28:31 AM PDT by CygnusXI (Im back!)
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To: absolootezer0; Renegade; Gaffer

Oooh! We’re getting quite a little group going on here. I’ll have to bring my Mosey after all, and not just the Mare’s Leg, 12 Ga, and 1911s.


28 posted on 04/02/2013 10:29:10 AM PDT by TheOldLady
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To: Gaffer

They’ll soften up the opposition with drone fired hellfire missiles, first.


29 posted on 04/02/2013 10:29:13 AM PDT by Black Agnes
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To: Noumenon

30 posted on 04/02/2013 10:30:07 AM PDT by Innovative ("Winning isn't everything, it's the only thing." -- Vince Lombardi)
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To: ColdOne

Well, it is pretty clear. The war is here. NOW- how many Americans are going to stay asleep?


31 posted on 04/02/2013 10:30:34 AM PDT by Truth2012
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To: Innovative

Obamacare is not a treaty, you can’t EO a treaty, can’t ram through a treaty without creating a lot of bodies


32 posted on 04/02/2013 10:31:26 AM PDT by NativeSon ( Grease the floor with Crisco when I dance the Disco)
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To: Innovative

Veto power can only be exercised in the Security Council, not the General Assembly which is a just who has the most votes for what.


33 posted on 04/02/2013 10:33:18 AM PDT by PIF (They came for me and mine ... now it is your turn ...)
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To: DanMiller
...Senate ratification of a treaty requires that "two thirds of the Senators present concur."

Reid will hold the vote a 2:AM when there are only five democRats present.

34 posted on 04/02/2013 10:34:50 AM PDT by MileHi ( "It's coming down to patriots vs the politicians." - ovrtaxt)
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To: ColdOne

United Nations General Assembly just gave the Mexican cartels a new line of work to go into.


35 posted on 04/02/2013 10:36:26 AM PDT by Vaduz
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To: Gaffer
I look forward to Blue Helmet target shooting with 30’06 black tips.

You can look forward to shooting local cops with black tips because if there is any enforcement and confiscation coming out of this they'll be the ones doing it.

36 posted on 04/02/2013 10:36:56 AM PDT by from occupied ga (Your government is your most dangerous enemy)
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To: ColdOne

http://freedomoutpost.com/2013/03/us-senate-votes-to-not-join-un-arms-trade-treaty/comment-page-1/


37 posted on 04/02/2013 10:40:13 AM PDT by Sacajaweau
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To: Tzimisce

True...but a difference is that the senate majority leader is not fully on board this time. Gun ownership has gone up dramatically among women lately (dem constituency) and also is up about 10 percent among DEMOCRAT men.

Sure they’ll try but this will be harder than obamacare for them and they will never get the House on board.


38 posted on 04/02/2013 10:40:22 AM PDT by what's up
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To: Tzimisce

http://freedomoutpost.com/2013/03/us-senate-votes-to-not-join-un-arms-trade-treaty/comment-page-1/


39 posted on 04/02/2013 10:40:44 AM PDT by Sacajaweau
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To: DanMiller

Most of the people who voted for and supported Obamacare were re-elected.


40 posted on 04/02/2013 10:43:35 AM PDT by Tzimisce (The American Revolution began when the British attempted to disarm the Colonists.)
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To: from occupied ga

It’s entirely up to them. I have no quarrel with them and support law enforcement, as I currently have family members who are retired LEOS’s and active duty LEO’s, but if they choose to obey an illegal order the Nuremberg, “I was just following orders and doing my job” line won’t cut it.

They are messing with a “civil right” after all.

Again, it is entirely up to them.


41 posted on 04/02/2013 10:44:16 AM PDT by sarge83
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To: Sacajaweau

The Senate is also working to cut the budget and lower taxes. :)


42 posted on 04/02/2013 10:44:38 AM PDT by Tzimisce (The American Revolution began when the British attempted to disarm the Colonists.)
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To: DanMiller

“two thirds of the Senators present concur.”

So how many Senators does it take if three are present? Or fifty?


43 posted on 04/02/2013 10:46:16 AM PDT by DBrow
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To: Tzimisce
Don’t worry: there are a lot of Democrats in the Senate in tough re-election campaigns. It’ll never pass the Senate. :)

It only takes 34 Senators out of a minimum quorum.

Feeling so confident now?

44 posted on 04/02/2013 10:47:33 AM PDT by Carry_Okie (An economy is not a zero-sum game, but politics usually is.)
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To: ColdOne

Time to go “Cartel”...


46 posted on 04/02/2013 10:48:22 AM PDT by Dubh_Ghlase (Therefore, send not to know For whom the bell tolls, It tolls for thee.)
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To: NativeSon; All

A ‘MUST READ”:

http://www.senate.gov/artandhistory/history/common/briefing/Treaties.htm

“Executive Agreements

In addition to treaties, which may not enter into force and become binding on the United States without the advice and consent of the Senate, there are other types of international agreements concluded by the executive branch and not submitted to the Senate. These are classified in the United States as executive agreements, not as treaties, a distinction that has only domestic significance. International law regards each mode of international agreement as binding, whatever its designation under domestic law. “


47 posted on 04/02/2013 10:49:06 AM PDT by Innovative ("Winning isn't everything, it's the only thing." -- Vince Lombardi)
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To: Gaffer

It won’t be blue helmets. It will be BATF or DHS.


48 posted on 04/02/2013 10:49:57 AM PDT by Darren McCarty (If most people were more than keyboard warriors, we might have won the election)
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To: from occupied ga

There aren’t any cops in my town that will be doing that.


49 posted on 04/02/2013 10:50:19 AM PDT by Gaffer
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To: Resolute Conservative; Bender2

50 posted on 04/02/2013 10:50:20 AM PDT by big'ol_freeper ("Evil is powerless if the good are unafraid" ~ Ronald Wilson Reagan)
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