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Biden Proposals Include Framework for Gun Registry and Confiscation
email Gun Owners of America ^ | 1/15/2013 | Gun Owners of America

Posted on 01/15/2013 7:27:03 AM PST by FR_addict

Up to 50-80% of all guns in circulation could be covered

Press reports now make it clear what Vice President Joe Biden’s gun control package will look like. Biden wants to impose:

* A Feinstein-like semi-auto ban which, according to experts who have done the counting, could ban up to 50% of all long guns currently in circulation and up to 80% of all handguns. Incidentally, if you wanted to keep the AR-15 you currently have, you would have to have a 6-month FBI background check, be fingerprinted, and get a machine gun-type license.

* The framework for national gun registration and confiscation by requiring every gun transaction to have a Brady Check.

* Supposed “toughening” of anti-gun trafficking measures, but without doing anything about the man responsible for allowing more gun trafficking than any other American -- Attorney General Eric Holder (with his Fast and Furious program).

Let us backtrack and explain a couple of things: Increasingly ATF is going into gun dealers and xeroxing all of the 4473’s. This is illegal under McClure-Volkmer, but, in case you hadn’t noticed, Obama is increasingly ignoring the law when it inconveniences him.

Thus, if every gun transaction in America must have a Brady Check, every gun in America could presumably be fed into a national registration system by ATF by simply copying the 4473’s.

New York Governor Andrew Cuomo -– a man who gives you a pretty good idea of where gun control is going -– said, on the front page of the New York Times, that “confiscation” of firearms is an option. Obviously, having a registration list makes such a task much easier.

But what about so-called large-capacity magazines? Well, Republicans like Georgia’s Phil Gingrey have talked about the possibility of banning them. However, there are many problems with this.

First of all, millions of gun owners own these magazines for defensive purposes. To take away a homeowner’s right to choose these devices will simply make honest citizens less safe -- especially, when they are facing multiple attackers.

Moreover, police have sometimes had to fire 20-30 rounds to finally stop just one drug-crazed individual from shooting. This just underscores why, quite often, good guys will need more than just six-shooters.

Second, there are tens of millions of high-capacity magazines in circulation. What are you going to do about them?

Third, changing magazines (or switching guns) is not a big deal for people like Adam Lanza.

Fourth -- and perhaps most important –- this is a game the anti-gun zealots have played before: They threaten to kill the Second Amendment, and then negotiate their way back to “merely” eviscerating it.

Or put another way, they threaten to shoot us in the head to get us to agree to cutting off our fingers.

The only way that America’s gun owners are going to have peace over the next decade is to stop ALL gun control -– as we did after Columbine –- and then defeat compromising legislators running for reelection in 2014.

ACTION: Click here to contact your Senators and Congressmen. Demand that they oppose ALL gun control -- including magazine limitations and universal background (registration) checks -- being proposed by the Biden commission.


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To: FR_addict
In Soviet Union, guns lose you in boating accident.

21 posted on 01/15/2013 8:09:25 AM PST by Jeff Chandler (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tpAOwJvTOio)
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To: FR_addict

It will be the match that lights the fuse to begin a second civil war.


22 posted on 01/15/2013 8:13:03 AM PST by Biggirl ("Jesus talked to us as individuals"-Jim Vicevich/Thanks JimV!)
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To: FR_addict

You can bet that kali won’t stand to be one-upped by those upstarts in new york as to who has the stupidest anti-gun laws. You know, the ones that don’t do anything except make law abiding citizens criminals for doing what they have a constitutional right to do.

NV freepers. Noon, Carson City, Saturday 1/19.

Just say “NO!”.

Molon labe.


23 posted on 01/15/2013 8:14:02 AM PST by rktman (Live the oath you took or get out of office!)
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To: FR_addict

It will go along that it will be “blue states” trying to push the “red states” around. It will blowback in the faces of the blue states.


24 posted on 01/15/2013 8:15:08 AM PST by Biggirl ("Jesus talked to us as individuals"-Jim Vicevich/Thanks JimV!)
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To: FR_addict

Nice going obama. Criminalize the law abiding citizens.


25 posted on 01/15/2013 8:21:32 AM PST by Rapscallion (Obama does not know how to respect the opinions of others and find common ground.)
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To: FR_addict

This is to make honest, law-abiding citizens get prosecuted as if they were criminals, while deliberately and intentionally leaving guns in the hands of violent criminals.


26 posted on 01/15/2013 8:21:48 AM PST by I want the USA back
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To: E. Pluribus Unum

I know, Unum, however I think it is important to illustrate that there is no circumstance in which I will give up my guns, even the the circumstance is absurd and will obviously never occur.

At this point I say that I am ready to give up politicans and elected officials. They serve no purpose other than to consume freedom, and that purpose needs to be ended now.


27 posted on 01/15/2013 8:24:36 AM PST by chris37 (Heartless.)
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To: FR_addict

Hypocrite liberal media toadies:

James O’Keefe Visits Homes Of Journalists Who Published Names And Addresses Of Gun Owners, Finds Them Protected By Armed Security Guards…

VIDEO:

http://weaselzippers.us/

Scroll down the page.


28 posted on 01/15/2013 8:26:35 AM PST by KeyLargo
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To: Sequoyah101

Red light cameras put a stop to that years ago around here. All under the guise it was only to monitor traffic conditions, but now is a big money maker issuing $200-$300 fines for running yellow/red lights.


29 posted on 01/15/2013 8:30:22 AM PST by Blue Highway
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NO!
30 posted on 01/15/2013 8:32:33 AM PST by RandallFlagg
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To: I want the USA back

“There’s no way to rule innocent men. The only power any government has is the power to crack down on criminals. Well, when there aren’t enough criminals, one makes them. One declares so many things to be a crime that it becomes impossible for men to live without breaking laws. Who wants a nation of law-abiding citizens? What’s there in that for anyone? But just pass the kind of laws that can neither be observed nor enforced nor objectively interpreted and you create a nation of law-breakers — and then you cash in on guilt. Now that’s the system.”

Quote by: Ayn Rand
(1905-1982) Author
Source: “Atlas Shrugged”, Part II, Chapter 3


31 posted on 01/15/2013 8:37:56 AM PST by CSM (Keeper of the Dave Ramsey Ping list. FReepmail me if you want your beeber stuned.)
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To: Abathar
I think you hit the nail on the head. Basically criminalize anyone who owns a gun & refuses to register or turn it in. Also I would expect that any ammo purchases would then be fed into a database as well, so that it will trigger an investigation into "WHY are you purchasing ammo if you have no guns".

Quite honestly, the bill going forward in NY state right now, will criminalize anyone who does not register their firearms and prohibits the sale or transfer of any so called "assult rifles". To me, that indicates that when the "assult rifle" owner dies, the gun will be required to turn into the NY state gubmint. It will be interesting to see what becomes of this bill and if NY gun owners will refuse to comply.

32 posted on 01/15/2013 8:39:09 AM PST by rcrngroup
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To: FR_addict

violating the 2nd and 4th, hell try the
1st amendmet, freedom of religion because of turd pokers and feces lovers.

try the 2nd for gun rights.

try the 10th wiht states rights and if DOMA is overturned then there is no 10th

try the 14th for the debt limit.

The constitution is being ripped up as I type this and nothing.

The French showed more balls in their hundreds of thousands for normal marriage.
The Prods in N Ireland have ene rioting for days since they took the British flag down over their Govt building

We have our rigths being attacked and our party written a letter after that arrogant speech


33 posted on 01/15/2013 8:39:43 AM PST by manc (Marriage =1 man + 1 woman,when they say marriage equality then they should support polygamy)
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To: FR_addict

We are now at DEFCON 2.


34 posted on 01/15/2013 8:39:51 AM PST by ConservativeInPA
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To: theBuckwheat

the low info voters think rights are homo marriage, abortion etc and they;’re not, our rights are in the constitution and I have more right to have a gun than be married so Bloomberg and the great unwashed low info masses, F=off.

As for the media, WHAT MEDIA?

They’;re nothing but a mouth peice fro the left and their socialist agenda and our party writes a letter , WTH is that B/S, GET OUT THERE AND FIGHT BACK, CALL THIS WHAT IT IS AND DO SOMETHING


35 posted on 01/15/2013 8:43:05 AM PST by manc (Marriage =1 man + 1 woman,when they say marriage equality then they should support polygamy)
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To: FR_addict

http://www.breitbart.com/Big-Government/2013/01/14/Obama-impeachment


36 posted on 01/15/2013 8:43:15 AM PST by matthew fuller (We are 9350000 men with battle rifles, not armed because we are free, but free because we are armed.)
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To: theBuckwheat

Well said, and correct.


37 posted on 01/15/2013 8:43:33 AM PST by Hardastarboard (The Liberal ruling class hates me. The feeling is mutual.)
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To: rcrngroup

Reminders on gun registration are in the graphic posted on this forum.

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/2978142/posts?q=1&;page=51


38 posted on 01/15/2013 8:44:18 AM PST by IM2MAD (IM2MAD=Individual Motivated 2 Make A Difference)
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To: Biggirl

the socialist blue states can f-off and form their liberal socilaist utopia as far as I;m concerned.

Obama was electd through fraud , a rigged election from the Chicago machine and low info voters.
The constitution was not up for election and to hell withour party if they can’t get up there after the arrogant speeches of barack obama yesterday and show frigging emotion and call him what he is, a socialist radical.

They can take their socialist out of the red states and the swing states like mine FL too .


39 posted on 01/15/2013 8:47:04 AM PST by manc (Marriage =1 man + 1 woman,when they say marriage equality then they should support polygamy)
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To: FR_addict

Guns were meant to protect us from Tyranny, of course they want to disarm us.


40 posted on 01/15/2013 8:47:04 AM PST by MaxMax (Gun free zones was the invitation to gun bans by the left, at any cost)
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