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Boehner Fiscal Cliff 'Plan B' Rejected by GOP Caucus, House to Recess for Christmas
Thursday, Deecember 20, 2012

Posted on 12/20/2012 5:16:50 PM PST by kristinn

Capitol Hill reporters on Twitter writing Speaker Boehner has dropped Plan B fiscal cliff vote tongiht after revolt from House Republican caucus. House will recess until after Christmas.

After raucus closed dooor House GOP meeting, Boehner says House has already passed bills to cut spending and taxes to avert fiscal cliff and the ball is the court of the Senate and President Obama.


TOPICS: Breaking News; Government; US: Ohio; Your Opinion/Questions
KEYWORDS: 112th; boehner; conservtaxincrease; fiscalcliff; johnboehner; notbreakingnews; planb; vanity
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To: John 3_19-21
The "fiscal Cliff" will go a long way toward cutting the size of government.

How so?

What is there about increasing taxes across-the-board and reducing spending in one area -- defense -- will do anything to reduce the size of government.

Seems to me that government's share of the GDP just went up!

141 posted on 12/20/2012 7:13:18 PM PST by okie01
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To: okie01

I want to go over the cliff, too. Forget taxes. They shouldn’t go up in a recession, and blah, blah, blah. They’re going to raise taxes anyway, the hidden ones. Inflation gives the feds most of their filthy lucre. At least, at least! the “cliff” gives us some cuts.


142 posted on 12/20/2012 7:14:46 PM PST by Tublecane
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To: PLMerite
Okay, so why does Mark Levin say this is a good thing?
143 posted on 12/20/2012 7:15:40 PM PST by af_vet_1981 (The bus came by and I got on, That's when it all began,)
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To: what's up

You don’t think taxes were going up for everyone anyway? Wake up! There’s a reason it’s not called the monetary cliff. They control the money supply and will continue on as they have been. Whether or not we extend the 2001 rates is tiddlywinks.


144 posted on 12/20/2012 7:17:39 PM PST by Tublecane
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To: NonValueAdded
Next step, new Speaker.

I figured there would be a call for Speaker Pelosi in here tonight ...

145 posted on 12/20/2012 7:17:44 PM PST by af_vet_1981 (The bus came by and I got on, That's when it all began,)
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To: kristinn

The Republicans should have crafted a bill with exactly what Obama ran on. Bring it to the floor, all the Repubs vote present, let it pass on Democrat votes,send it to the Seante and go home. When the economy tanks further they have no part of it, the Dems own it. It would give us a shot at the Senate in 2014. Instead they get cornered. The Dems play chess while the Repubs play checkers


146 posted on 12/20/2012 7:18:32 PM PST by Joshua
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To: PLMerite

Mark has money. He can’t relate to us people who don’t have much money to understand this is a very bad thing.


147 posted on 12/20/2012 7:20:02 PM PST by Halls (Jesus is my Lord and Savior)
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To: Deo volente

“No matter what Boehner and the Republicans do, they will get all the blame for the damage to this economy”

Don’t worry. Most people are busy on twitter and facebook, so they won’t notice. :)


148 posted on 12/20/2012 7:21:42 PM PST by Cedar
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To: af_vet_1981

Hush your mouth!


149 posted on 12/20/2012 7:22:39 PM PST by NonValueAdded (If you can keep your head when all about you are losing theirs, you've likely misread the situation.)
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To: lodi90
How does Madame Speaker Pelosi sound? She is the one next in line now that the stupid party circular firing squad has cleared a gap in the lines.

That would be the stupid conservative circular firing squad that is too intimidated by Obama's and Reid's victories in the last elections for President and Senate so they try to bully John Boehner from the current safety of the keyboard. Fey, delusional, throwing away any restraint on Obama in their tantrum.

150 posted on 12/20/2012 7:23:08 PM PST by af_vet_1981 (The bus came by and I got on, That's when it all began,)
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To: Deo volente
No matter what Boehner and the Republicans do, they will get all the blame for the damage to this economy and the markets from going off the cliff.

The ONLY entity here that is in danger of going off a cliff is government. Government will go off the cliff if the debt ceiling is not raised. It is the ONLY issue that matters right now. Obama and the Dems are trying to scare everyone with this 'fiscal cliff' crap, but they are the only ones here in danger. Boehner needs to act accordingly and stick it to Obama and the Dems by holding fast and refusing to raise the ceiling. If he does that, then we automatically get $1.1 trillion in spending cuts immediately for the current fiscal year instead of some worthless promise that will be carried out a decade from now. Fiscal cliff? Bring it on! Let's start putting padlocks on entire departments and lay off some government workers for a change.

151 posted on 12/20/2012 7:24:47 PM PST by Hoodat ("As for God, His way is perfect" - Psalm 18:30)
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To: af_vet_1981
I don't know any conservatives that are intimidated by the crap sandwich we're going to get handed, whichever way it goes.

The GOP owns this mess, lock, stock, and barrel.

It started last February as I recall.

I don't expect I'll take a bite of this one, either.

/johnny

152 posted on 12/20/2012 7:29:00 PM PST by JRandomFreeper (Gone Galt)
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To: lodi90

Maybe the circular squad IS needed, to thin out the RINOs so real Americans who know and follow the Constitution will step up the plate instead of being denied by the two party cartel country-club.

There’s been no real talks, no real ideas, and hell, no real leadership for quite some time. Why not thin the herd? Because if you think another of the old boys club is going to make any difference, I’d say you’d better not hold your breath waiting for that to happen.

When you have the Weeper talking like a DEM...where’s the peeps here who, before the Nov 6 election, were SWEARING Boehner and boys would have kept NE Liberal Mitt in check?!


153 posted on 12/20/2012 7:30:14 PM PST by i_robot73
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To: Sarah Barracuda

Some would say we’ve been tumbling down a cliff since 1913.


154 posted on 12/20/2012 7:30:51 PM PST by rfp1234 (Arguing with a liberal is like playing chess with a pigeon.)
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To: Joshua

The Dems play chess while the Repubs play checkers


Thats what is going on here. Boehner gets crafty and tries to corner the kenyan as a proven liar by passing the Pelosi Plan but conservatives decide in the middle to keep on playing checkers.

The GOP has a terrible brand problem. The dims have successfully labeled the GOP as the party of the rich. Now the kenyan will use that to get everything he wants.

Permanent defense cuts, increased spending, massive tax increases and an “Obama tax cut”. The dims will run out the clock to 2014 and regain the House if this is their opposition. Then comes a VAT, EU style open borders, etc.

But at least we will still have our principles!


155 posted on 12/20/2012 7:33:52 PM PST by lodi90
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To: Hoodat
Obama and the Dems are trying to scare everyone with this 'fiscal cliff' crap, but they are the only ones here in danger.

EVERYTHING has to be in crisis mode with this buffoon in the White Hut. Honestly, this is not a leader. All we will hear for the next 48 months is campaign after campaign after campaign. How much of this can the low information voters take coming out of the media.
156 posted on 12/20/2012 7:41:08 PM PST by Cheerio (Barry Hussein Soetoro-0bama=The Complete Destruction of American Capitalism)
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To: SierraWasp
"Once again the Demonicrats have manuvered the Repellicans into yet another corner where they're "damned if they do and damned if they don't!" Dammit!!!"

"Instead of constant bichin an gripin all the time"

Presumably the latter relates to the former...

157 posted on 12/20/2012 7:41:31 PM PST by StAnDeliver (Own It.)
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To: kristinn

With my current job I do finance counseling for people and prepare assistance packets for them. I have numerous government papers and pamphlets that I hand out from time to time.

I mailed a copy of the “How to create a budget” to the Speaker of the house. I hope he reads it and shares it.


158 posted on 12/20/2012 7:42:40 PM PST by rfreedom4u (I have a copy of the Constitution! And I'm not afraid to use it!)
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To: PMAS
New speaker ? Please don’t tell me Eric Cantor is next in line

I can't imagine anything on this earth that would cause Cantor to challenge this position against Boehner. There isn't a line, so to speak. I'd actually be (pleasantly) surprised if any of our (R) reps have the spine to do it.

159 posted on 12/20/2012 7:49:05 PM PST by lonevoice (Today I broke my personal record for most consecutive days lived)
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To: lodi90
Quit being so disingenuous, this was not Pelosi’s plan. There are huge differences in the estate tax, earned income credit, and several deductions afforded to the “millionaires” between Boehner’s and Pelosi’s gimmicks. The only similarities were a rise in percentage.
160 posted on 12/20/2012 7:50:02 PM PST by rollo tomasi (Working hard to pay for deadbeats and corrupt politicians.)
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