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Critics point to flaws in longevity study
Science News ^ | July 31st, 2010 | Tina Hesman Saey

Posted on 08/01/2010 11:04:59 PM PDT by neverdem

Questions have focused on the analytic platform used to find about 150 genetic variations linked to longevity

Just like the fountain of youth, a study that purported to find genetic secrets to longevity may be a myth, critics say.

Researchers led by Thomas Perls and Paola Sebastiani from Boston University reported July 1 in an online publication in Science that they had identified 150 genetic markers that distinguish centenarians from people with average life spans with 77 percent accuracy.

Almost immediately the study came under fire because of a technical flaw. Most of the controversy stems from the devices used to take the genetic fingerprints of a small number of people in the study. Known as DNA or SNP chips, these devices probe thousands of genetic markers called single nucleotide polymorphisms, or SNPs. These markers are places in the genome where most people have one letter of the four-letter DNA alphabet — such as an A — and a smaller percentage of people have a different letter — a G, C or T.

All of the chips used in the study were manufactured by Illumina, a San Diego-based biotech company. But one of the several lines of chip the study used, called the Illumina 610 array, has flaws that could prevent researchers from correctly identifying some SNPs. That may introduce bias into the study and throw off the results.

Ironically, the team’s statistical analysis of the data — commonly a trouble spot for SNP studies — was very careful, says Nicholas Schork, a statistical geneticist at the Scripps Translational Science Institute and the Scripps Research Institute, both in La Jolla, Calif.

“There are many things in the paper that they did to protect themselves against error, but this is one that slipped through the cracks and may not even have...,”

(Excerpt) Read more at sciencenews.org ...


TOPICS: Culture/Society; News/Current Events; Technical
KEYWORDS: dna; emptydna; genetics; godsgravesglyphs; health; longevity; mtdna

1 posted on 08/01/2010 11:05:07 PM PDT by neverdem
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To: neverdem

From this I surmise that rather than depending upon one uncommon gene, longevity may be tied to uncommon combinations of common genes. When everything in a complex system of maybe a dozen things works right, one is likely to live a long time.


2 posted on 08/02/2010 12:35:21 AM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (I am in America but not of America (per bible: am in the world but not of it))
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To: neverdem

I don’t think, oddly enough, that longevity is the key to longevity.

That is, at the cellular level, there is an aging mechanism that as such does not seem to be reversible.

However, a jellyfish, Turritopsis nutricula, of all things, might have the start of an answer to this situation.

“Turritopsis nutricula or ‘immortal jellyfish’ can revert to the polyp stage after becoming sexually mature. It is the only known case of an animal capable of reverting completely to a sexually immature stage after having reached sexual maturity.

On learning this, most people assume that only simple forms of life could do this. But in truth, some varieties of jellyfish have more genetic matter than do humans.

In people, it has been discovered that not only can stem cells replace specialized cells, whose timer is old, but that adult cells can revert to being stem cells.

So theoretically, at least, a person might behave as that jellyfish, and revert to some stage in their youth. And cellular replacement makes much more sense than maintenance or repair.


3 posted on 08/02/2010 5:35:48 AM PDT by yefragetuwrabrumuy
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To: yefragetuwrabrumuy

“That is, at the cellular level, there is an aging mechanism that as such does not seem to be reversible.”

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If you are refering to loss of methyl caps, it has been proven to be fully reversible.


4 posted on 08/02/2010 1:46:21 PM PDT by editor-surveyor (Obamacare is America's kristallnacht !!)
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To: editor-surveyor

It is a whole chain of events, from fraying telomeres, to mitochondrial DNA deletion mutations. Likely there are any number of things that lead to cell degradation, and the processes are also likely to affect other cells as well. Even prions might be involved.

So while protection is certainly good, replacement is likely better.


5 posted on 08/02/2010 3:32:03 PM PDT by yefragetuwrabrumuy
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To: neverdem; Quix; SunkenCiv
Illumina, a San Diego-based biotech company

Hiding in plain sight, I see.

6 posted on 08/02/2010 4:25:52 PM PDT by fanfan (Why did they bury Barry's past?)
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To: fanfan

INDEED.

Artificial long life is a major goal of the elites . . .

I guess they may realize God’s not going to bless them with such.


7 posted on 08/02/2010 4:33:45 PM PDT by Quix (THE PLAN of the Bosses: http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/religion/2519352/posts?page=2#2)
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Researchers led by Thomas Perls and Paola Sebastiani from Boston University reported July 1 in an online publication in Science that they had identified 150 genetic markers that distinguish centenarians from people with average life spans with 77 percent accuracy. Almost immediately the study came under fire because of a technical flaw. Most of the controversy stems from the devices used to take the genetic fingerprints of a small number of people in the study. Known as DNA or SNP chips, these devices probe thousands of genetic markers called single nucleotide polymorphisms, or SNPs. These markers are places in the genome where most people have one letter of the four-letter DNA alphabet -- such as an A -- and a smaller percentage of people have a different letter -- a G, C or T.
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8 posted on 08/03/2010 6:46:58 PM PDT by SunkenCiv ("Fools learn from experience. I prefer to learn from the experience of others." -- Otto von Bismarck)
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To: SunkenCiv

LOL, Just saying.

Plain sight. ....and all.


9 posted on 08/03/2010 7:05:40 PM PDT by fanfan (Why did they bury Barry's past?)
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To: yefragetuwrabrumuy; editor-surveyor; SunkenCiv; neverdem
“Turritopsis nutricula or ‘immortal jellyfish’ can revert to the polyp stage after becoming sexually mature. It is the only known case of an animal capable of reverting completely to a sexually immature stage after having reached sexual maturity.

This exists in other cnidarian taxa, suggesting that it might be a more general property than previously thought.
see free article http://www.ijdb.ehu.es/web/paper.php?doi=10.1387/ijdb.062152js

10 posted on 08/03/2010 11:48:07 PM PDT by AdmSmith (GCTGATATGTCTATGATTACTCAT)
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11 posted on 08/04/2010 8:33:35 AM PDT by yefragetuwrabrumuy
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To: AdmSmith

Thanks AdmSmith.


12 posted on 08/04/2010 8:31:25 PM PDT by SunkenCiv ("Fools learn from experience. I prefer to learn from the experience of others." -- Otto von Bismarck)
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