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Is Reid afraid of losing his 60 if Scott Brown wins Kennedy's seat?
none | 12/20/2009 | taildragger

Posted on 12/20/2009 11:33:41 AM PST by taildragger

Edited on 12/20/2009 4:26:09 PM PST by Admin Moderator. [history]

Reid is trying to do cram through, he has his 60. But what if, that is the question. There is a special election in Massachusetts on 01/19/2010. What if their internals are so bad that a Republican has a chance to win Teddy Kennedy's seat? What if Scott Brown actually wins in Massachusetts? Tangential to this is the age and health of Senator Byrd. These are two risks that could delay their 60 vote fillibuster proof majority. One by going back to 59 if Brown wins, and the other is all the issues that would occur if Byrd's health failed or worse, note we wish him well, but at 95 if my memory is correct, he has been in better health. I look forward to Freepers' thoughts on this.


TOPICS: Editorial; Government; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections; US: Massachusetts; Your Opinion/Questions
KEYWORDS: 60; coakley; ma2010; massachuetts; romney4dictatorships; romney4dnc; romney4marxism; romney4obama; romney4reid; romneyhiding; romneyinlajolla; romneyisdnc; scottbrown; senate; specialelection; supermajority
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To: nhwingut
Coakley is an awful candidate and that's why you haven't seen any polls touted in the media here. Whatever the margin is, it's too close to comfort so the Dems strategy is basically to keep Coakley closeted in her limo and to run out the clock. If they can avoid any debates with Brown, they will do so and if they do have to debate, they will insist on Joseph Kennedy (the Libertarian and no relation to the dysfunctional family from Hyannisport) being a part of them so as to minimize the time Coakley has to speak because head-to-head with Brown, she'll look like the shrill empty pants-suit that she is.

It is true that Kennedy will draw some base away from Brown but most Democratic Massachusetts voters are so stupid that they will vote for Joseph Kennedy, thinking he's related to the same Joseph Kennedy that used to bootleg liquor and screw showgirls. So Kennedy's candidacy will probably be a wash.

21 posted on 12/20/2009 12:03:45 PM PST by SamAdams76 (I am 7 days away from outliving Lefty Frizzell)
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To: taildragger

I live in MA. There’s no way to really tell how big Brown’s support is. I wouldn’t trust any poll from the globe or herald. However, I think, even if he loses, it will not be by the 70-30 margin that Kennedy used to get. I attended the tea party rallies in July, and was surprised at the number of people there. With our feckless governor, a corrupt legislature, tax increases, threats of toll increases, and an upset populace, Brown just may be able to pull out a victory.

It’s telling in itself that Coakley won’t debate him, which would elevate his stature. We’ll see. If Brown wins, that would be a blow to the democrats and a foretelling of November.


22 posted on 12/20/2009 12:08:11 PM PST by cotton1706
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To: SamAdams76
So where is the Lee Atwater of our time calling them out for a mano-e-mano debate?

Where is this mytical person getting Scott on all national talk shows?

As the late David Brudnoi used to say the "Stupid Party"......

23 posted on 12/20/2009 12:08:32 PM PST by taildragger (Palin/Mulally 2012)
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To: cotton1706
It’s telling in itself that Coakley won’t debate him, which would elevate his stature. We’ll see. If Brown wins, that would be a blow to the democrats and a foretelling of November.

My thoughts exactly...

Where is Dick Morris on this? Frank Lutz? Michael Barone?

They should be all over it IMHO...

24 posted on 12/20/2009 12:10:37 PM PST by taildragger (Palin/Mulally 2012)
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To: taildragger

Brown won’t be allowed to win.

This is MA and our ruling plutocrats cannot afford to give up the facade of legitimacy they derive from a voting majority in our national Politburo.

If they are fearless enough to actually ram something like this unConstitutional abomination down our throats in full view, what makes you think they won’t tamper with voting results behind the scenes?

We’ll never have am honest election again. The Constitution has been overthrown and the coup d’etat is pretty much complete.

Folks, I fear we’re going to see a war in this country during our lifetimes.


25 posted on 12/20/2009 12:11:20 PM PST by Zeddicus
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To: Agamemnon; SamAdams76

Hey, in the last ten years, MA has elected GOP Govs. Why not a Senator.

Sam, I see your point. If he doesn’t run an aggressive campaign, or hasn’t to date, he’s probably cooked.


26 posted on 12/20/2009 12:12:54 PM PST by norge (The amiable dunce is back, wearing a skirt and high heels.)
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To: cookcounty
Your head would spin from the speed that Byrd's appointed replacement could male it from Charleston to Washington.
Governor Manchin would appoint himself of course.
27 posted on 12/20/2009 12:18:34 PM PST by buckalfa (confused and bewildered)
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To: taildragger

If he’s not, he should be. I live about 30 miles outside Boston and I see more Brown the Croak-me signs in yards by about a 2 to 1 margin. I have yet to see a Croak-me bumper sticker but have seen dozens of Brown bumper stickers. Polling shows Croak-me could lost to either of these candidates too: Anybody but Martha and None of the Above.


28 posted on 12/20/2009 12:21:52 PM PST by MIchaelTArchangel (A village in Kenya is missing its idiot.)
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To: taildragger
Well I for one would celebrate if he had a coronary and dropped dead on the spot.I`d buy a bottle of champagne and drink a toast to the fork Satan will undoubtedly be shoving up his fat @$$. Yes,I said that,and you can quote me!F**k them and the jackasses they rode in on!
29 posted on 12/20/2009 12:23:01 PM PST by nomad
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To: taildragger
Here is how in bed with the RATS the local Massachusetts media is. Once a month on the Boston Fox affiliate, Attorney General Martha Coakley has a segment on the morning news. Its called Ask the AG.. The other morning it comes on and I am livid that she is getting air time, now that she is the dem nominee. So do they ask anything about the Attorney Generals office? NO! The whole 5 minutes was about her running for the teddy k seat. In my opinion, totally illegal and unethical. Scott Brown has not been granted equal time. I am awaiting a reply from Fox25 regarding dropping Coakley during the campaign and giving Scott Brown equal time.

http://brownbrigade.ning.com/

30 posted on 12/20/2009 12:24:43 PM PST by pietraynor (Government does not solve problems; it subsidizes them. Ronald Reagan)
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To: Agamemnon

I’d love to see it happen, but I think the best chances are with a state with a GOP governor (or about to have one) and an ailing, aged, enfeebled Democratic Senator. Byrd is no good, WV has a Democratic Governor. New Jersey, depending on the inauguration date, will have a GOP Governor, and Frank Lautenberg has sounded to me like he cannot be a sure bet to make it to the vote - supposedly at or near the State of the Union address. Anyone want to handicap other states?


31 posted on 12/20/2009 12:27:49 PM PST by Wally_Kalbacken
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To: Wally_Kalbacken
What is wrong with the Laute? Is he loosing it or is he sick?
32 posted on 12/20/2009 12:33:21 PM PST by taildragger (Palin/Mulally 2012)
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To: taildragger

“What are you hearing on the street? Does Brown have a shot?”

I think he does, most of the college aged Dems will vote for Coakley like lemming to the sea, but most of the traditional Dems especially the elderly are concerned about Medicare / Medicaid being cut, so if he plays that angle one never knows.


33 posted on 12/20/2009 12:33:25 PM PST by Sparky1776
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To: pietraynor

Scoundrels one and all the dominate media. Thanks.


34 posted on 12/20/2009 12:35:15 PM PST by taildragger (Palin/Mulally 2012)
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To: Sparky1776
I think he does, most of the college aged Dems will vote for Coakley like lemming to the sea, but most of the traditional Dems especially the elderly are concerned about Medicare / Medicaid being cut, so if he plays that angle one never knows.

Spark, I think you are spot on.... IMHO if Brown runs against Obamacare, ONE ISSUE and what it will do to seniors in MA, and what Masscare has done, he will have Miss Coakley borrowing some of Leahy's Depends....

35 posted on 12/20/2009 12:37:36 PM PST by taildragger (Palin/Mulally 2012)
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To: taildragger

Won’t matter....Lib’s can count on Olympia Snowe, Susan Collins, Lindsay Graham, etc., to cross over and vote with them whenever they need it. Just hand them a few more millions of dollars of taxpayer money for their States, and they fold like a cheap suit......


36 posted on 12/20/2009 12:38:19 PM PST by traditional1 ("Don't gotsta worry 'bout no mo'gage, don't gotsta worry 'bout no gas; Obama gonna take care o' me!)
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To: Carley

Snowe and Collins already have universal health care in Maine. It has bankrupt the state. If the federal health care bill passes, Maine will get more assistance from the rest of the country. Of course, they will vote for the final bill. Plan on it.


37 posted on 12/20/2009 12:49:53 PM PST by abclily
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To: taildragger

What a sorry state Massachusetts is. It was one of the leading states fighting for liberty at the founding of the republic. Today it is first among those lined up to deny liberty to all.


38 posted on 12/20/2009 12:55:01 PM PST by BlueYonder
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To: cookcounty

Some group needs to establish daily surveillance of Robert Byrd. In other words, we need eyes, on a daily basis, to verify that he is actually alive and conscious.


39 posted on 12/20/2009 1:07:09 PM PST by Josa
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To: Wally_Kalbacken

I expect that Brown would get shellacked no matter what, but the fact that the election is merely a special election for only this race would seem to benefit Brown: it means you can expect the most mobilized voters, who are certainly opposed to the Obama deathcare bill. Even the unions don’t like it.


40 posted on 12/20/2009 1:10:52 PM PST by dangus (Nah, I'm not really Jim Thompson, but I play him on FR.)
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