Posted on 12/20/2009 11:33:41 AM PST by taildragger
Edited on 12/20/2009 4:26:09 PM PST by Admin Moderator. [history]
I hope Scott Brown does win, though the odds favor Martha Coakley. I would rate this as likely but not safe Democrat.
Of course Reid knows his 60 vote margin is tenuous for a million reasons. That’s why there will be no Senate-House conference; the House will be strong-armed into voting through the bill AS IS; remember, the House only needs a single vote majority. Then Obama will sign it and crow about it at the state of the union address in late January.
There is zero chance the Repubbie will win in Massachusetts. There is always a chance that Byrd will become incapacitated, but if there is no conference it will not matter as long as Byrd votes aye next Thursday.
If there are more independents registered in MA, then the Republican needs to campaign against socialism rather than his opponent. They have 60 votes for socialism now and we can stop it in MA next month if the candidate isn’t afraid to tell the voters the truth. It not about the Kennedy legacy, it’s about socialism.
He is probably more afraid of Byrd dying, than Brown winning.
Ditto for New Hampshire. The motto “Live Free or Die” is about the only vestige of the old patriots left in that state, now that the national and state legislators are almost 100% Democratic.
The irony is that the state flipped because lots of Massachusetts refugees moved over the border because of housing prices and taxes; but while their personal decisions reflect a conservative approach to government they continue to vote at the ballot box for liberals.
What a world.
I’ve seen no polling numbers. What I’ve heard is alot of folks are apathethic about this race. Of people that are voting I only know 1 person that’s voting for Coakley. In addition, many of the Brown voters are lifelong Dems that are voting for Brown, not that they like him; they just hate ObamaCare and do not like Coakley at all. The seniors seem to be “getting it”, maybe?
If the Rat was Capuano, he’d be winning in a rout IMO. Coakley being such a puke is a HUGE help to Scott Brown. He needs to make hay during the debates.
GOOD—We must call every GOP person in the state to get Brown into office. I don’t know him but anything that disrupts the Liberal front is good for Conservatives at this point in time.
Won't pass 'as is'.
Many of those who voted for the Bill the first time, won't vote for it a second time without the pro-life language in it.
Unfair to Snowe and Collins - cheap shots.
They are voting NO on Obamacare this week - every cloture vote and on final passage. Snowe, in fact, is pissed at both Reid and Baucus.
In fact, what we have learned this week is that a moderate Republican is a lot better than a Blue Dog RAT. I hope people remember this.
Scot Brown will not win against any democrat in Massachusetts, including the empty pantsuit he’s running against.
Scot Brown will not win against any democrat in Massachusetts, including the empty pantsuit he’s running against.
To my surprise, there will be a conf committee - high risk, but the House progressives are demanding it.
This means the conf report will need another cloture vote in the Senate. High risk. Basically, a lot is riding on what Stupak will accept.
Can it be held off until after the 19th of Jan?
There is no conf schedule. RATS want this bill done B4 BO’s state of the union address in January.
We need to create a political firestorm across this nation in January.
You are sure about this? I will be watching for their NO votes.
Heck it wouldn’t take a bullet, one Senator
roughed up by an angry crowd of constituents
would be enough to send the message.
The problem is there is no timely retribution
for these electors actions, they are not held
accountable by the population in any way that
they can relate to.
A sound thrashing would do them good, fisticuffs
on the floor of the august institutions would work too.
You know if "B1 Bob" was still in the house even as old as he is, I am sure his "Irish" would have been up and something or someone might have pushed him over the edge and their would have been hell to pay...
The outcome of the January 19th election will depend on turnout. The turnout for the primary on 12/08 was “unexpectedly” light.
The true die-hards will decide this one. Right now, there are too many bread and circuses for most people to focus on a special election.
The NE Patriots will probably be playing football. Some people will be reminiscing about the NHL game played at Fenway Park on 1/1/2010. Many of those liberal college kids will still be on break.
We usually get a winter thaw around that time, but wouldn’t it be delicious if we had another blizzard like the one we had this weekend?
But the biggest factor limiting turnout is that neither candidate is very exciting. The polling place where we vote usually has several signholders out front when you pull in to vote. This past primary, there was nary a one.
I hope I’m wrong, but most people in Massachusetts still don’t realize what is happening to their way of life. We might see some Democrats turned out of office next November, but this election has not had time to ferment. It’s going to be close.
My prediction is that the most common reaction on January 20th will be: “You mean there was an election yesterday?”
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