Giant Backward Ring Found Around Saturn

CEH ^ | October 7, 2009

[GodGunsGuts]

Oct 7, 2009 — Saturn has a newly-discovered ring to add to its decor – the largest of all. It’s so big, it makes Saturn look like a speck in the middle of it. The ring, located at the orbit of the small outer moon Phoebe, is inclined 27 degrees and revolves backwards around Saturn. This was announced today by...

[GodGunsGuts]

Ping!

[llevrok]

I heard there are rings around Uranus too.

[wendy1946]

That’s what you might expect if Saturn had been captured by the sun, and fairly recently (thunderbolts.info)...

[<1/1,000,000th%]

From the NASA press release,

"Astronomers have long suspected that there is a connection between Saturn's outer moon Phoebe and the dark material on Iapetus," said Hamilton. "This new ring provides convincing evidence of that relationship."

[GodGunsGuts]

Would you mind expanding on that just a little? I’m not challenging you, I just want to know a little more about what you’re referring to :o)

[Pontiac]

This picture shows a slice of Saturn's largest ring, as seen in infrared light by NASA's Spitzer Space Telescope. The observatory viewed the ring edge-on from its Earth-trailing orbit around the sun. It detected the infrared light, or heat, form the ring's dusty material.

The ring has a diameter equivalent to 300 Saturns lined up side to side. And it's thick too -- about 20 Saturns could fit into its vertical height. The ring is tilted about 27 degrees from Saturn’s main ring plane.

The Spitzer data were taken by its multiband imaging photometer and show infrared light with a wavelength of 24 microns.

Spitzer image credit: NASA/JPL-Caltech/Univ. of Virginia

[Rebelbase]

My precious!

[who_would_fardels_bear]

Velikovsky anyone?

[bdw300]

Can anyone explain how/why the ring rotates backwards? I thought all orbits rotated in the same direction as the object in the middle.. The sun for instance is rotating in the same direction we swing around it. I thought this was because gravity was being “twisted” in that type of circle by the sun’s rotation. How can something move counter to this?

[GodGunsGuts]

PS Don’t knock yourself out writing a detailed response. I was just curious if your comment referred to any evidence beyond the scope of the article :o)

[Avid Coug]

According to Algore, the AllWise, the newly discovered ring around Saturn is caused by a buildup of exhaust fumes from SUV’s in the USA. That is why we must pass cap and tax immediately.

[Still Thinking]

But what about Uranus? What we really want to know is if there are rings around Uranus.

[TBP]

Will this help or hurt in finding a buyer?

[wendy1946]

Best I can do in a short space is dribs and drabs of a very long story. Ancient literature generally describes three kinds of things which we do not have any experience with in historical times or at least since Alexander, i.e.

• Cosmic catastrophes such as the flood or the meteorite storm described in the story of Phaeton or of Joshua and the Amorites.
• The question of a different kind of solar system.
• The question of a different general paradigm for the use of the human brain and mind (Julian Jaynes).

Our solar system generally looks like a composite system, i.e. four or five of the planets have spin axes set off around 24 - 27 degrees from the plane of the system while the others have axes normal to the plane as you'd expect if the system were primordial. That's what you'd expect if an older system of some sort had been captured by a younger one.

Genesis mentions God creating two "great lights" to govern day and night. Most assume that means the sun and moon; it all but certainly means Jupiter and Saturn. Plato consistently refers to antediluvians as children or nurselings of Kronos (Saturn) and Ovid and Hesiod both claim that there had been a golden age when Saturn/Kronos had been "king of heaven" followed by the flood and then a silver age when Jupiter/Zeus was "king of heaven", followed by the Trojan war and the present ages. In the same language, the sun is the "king of heaven" now.

If you were to go to Baltimore or some such place and find a group of primitive people and offer them $100 apiece to devise an astral religion straight off the tops of their heads from scratch, they'd invariably end up worshiping the sun and the moon. The two chieftain gods of every one of those ancient astral religions nonetheless were Jupiter and Saturn.

What the ancients believed was that Saturn had once been a small star with its own solar system which we were part of.

[earglasses]

The reference to “thunderbolts” points toward the Website found at http://thunderbolts.info/home.htm Near the bottom of that page, you will find a link to the book Thunderbolts of the Gods, by David Talbott and Wallace Thornhill, which explains their Velikovsky-inspired thesis that what we now see as the planetary relationships called “the Solar System” were in a dramatically different configuration in prehistoric times.

[Verginius Rufus]

I have no idea why the ring rotates backwards, but I expect Obama to appear on TV and blame it on the Bush administration.

[FReepaholic]

Fascinating stuff. Been to the Thunderbolts site. Most of this is over my head.

Back in the day I read Jaynes' "The Origin of Consciousness in the Breakdown of the Bicameral Mind" and Sagans' "The Dragons of Eden". Waay over my head. Interesting nevertheless.

[GodGunsGuts]

Thanks Wendy, I’ll be sure to give it (and the link just above) some serious thought this evening. All the best—GGG

[MrB]

Still can’t get over Barney Frank’s “what planet are you from” reference...