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Dinosaur killer may have struck oil
Australian Broadcasting Corporation ^ | May 07, 2008 | Larry O'Hanlon

Posted on 05/08/2008 12:11:16 PM PDT by Berlin_Freeper

The dinosaur-killing Chicxulub meteor might have ignited an oilfield rather than forests when it slammed into the Gulf of Mexico 65 million years ago, say geologists.

Smoke-related particles found in sediments formed at the time of the impact are strikingly similar to those created by modern high-temperature coal and oil burning, as opposed to forest fires, says Professor Simon Brassell of Indiana University.

He and colleagues from Italy and the UK publish their report on the discovery in the May issue of the journal Geology.

...What he and his colleagues have found instead are particles called cenospheres, which resemble the sooty output of industrial coal and oil burning, he says.

When cenospheres are found, they are usually associated with what's called fly ash, which is man-made.

"In many places the presence of such material is taken as evidence as the presence of human activities," says Brassell.

And since the Cretaceous-Tertiary boundary is about 65 million years too early for humans and their coal-fired Industrial Revolution, something else had to be burning fossil fuels.

Brassell and his team suggest that the Chicxulub meteor crashed into oily shales of the Gulf of Mexico, which caused the oil in the rocks to vaporise and ignite in the air, making cenospheres in the process.

Today the large oil fields that edge right up to the Chicxulub structure testify to the ample supply of oil available to burn 65 million years ago.

(Excerpt) Read more at abc.net.au ...


TOPICS: Culture/Society
KEYWORDS: alvarez; catastrophism; chondrite; godsgravesglyphs; thomasgold
I may not be the brightest bulb but didn't the stuff that was there 65 million years ago *become* the oil we burn today?

At any rate, I suppose the dinosaurs are the lucky ones. At least they never got stuck in traffic on the way to/from work.

1 posted on 05/08/2008 12:11:17 PM PDT by Berlin_Freeper
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To: Berlin_Freeper

Oil deposits are allegedly largely from the Carboniferous era and predates dinosaur be a lot of millions of years.

Or so I have read...


2 posted on 05/08/2008 12:15:08 PM PDT by El Sordo
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To: Berlin_Freeper
How long until we read about the dinosaur's industrial age which caused global warming and their own extinction?
3 posted on 05/08/2008 12:16:25 PM PDT by In veno, veritas (Please identify my Ad Hominem attacks. I should be debating ideas.)
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To: Berlin_Freeper

Stupid meteor. Wasting our oil.


4 posted on 05/08/2008 12:16:41 PM PDT by The KG9 Kid
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To: Berlin_Freeper

Maybe the meteorite was made of oil.


5 posted on 05/08/2008 12:17:15 PM PDT by Brilliant
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To: Berlin_Freeper

Bush’s fault darn it.


6 posted on 05/08/2008 12:20:05 PM PDT by Tigercap (McCain. For Supreme Court judge nominations and WOT progress if nothing else.)
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To: Berlin_Freeper
At least they never got stuck in traffic on the way to/from work.

Being EATEN on the way to/from work was a different matter. ;)

/johnny

7 posted on 05/08/2008 12:20:16 PM PDT by JRandomFreeper (Bless us all, each, and every one.)
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To: Berlin_Freeper

Damn.

Thats gonna drive up oil prices again.


8 posted on 05/08/2008 12:24:34 PM PDT by kennyboy509 (Ha! I kill me!)
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To: Berlin_Freeper

It's all a conspiracy man!! A lie from big tobacco.

9 posted on 05/08/2008 12:24:51 PM PDT by CougarGA7 (Wisdom comes with age, but sometimes age comes alone.)
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To: Berlin_Freeper

65 million years ago...that’s when oil was only $97 a barrel.


10 posted on 05/08/2008 12:32:22 PM PDT by pke
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To: Berlin_Freeper
"In many places the presence of such material is taken as evidence as the presence of human activities," says Brassell.

I'm not going to push this, since I'm sure I'm over-reaching, but ...

When they find material which is often taken as evidence of human activities, and when that evidence seems to be from 65 million years ago, does that suggest in anyway that the dating methods may be off?

One of the classic retorts against Creationism or ID is "If we find homo sapiens in a coal bed, maybe we'll rethink the dating, but that has never happened."

Well ...

11 posted on 05/08/2008 12:34:40 PM PDT by ClearCase_guy (Et si omnes ego non)
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To: Berlin_Freeper

There is a theory pursued by the Russians that oil is not a fossil fuel at all but is generated deep under the crust my microbes. As evidence some oil wells in the gulf which were thought depleted have resurged.


12 posted on 05/08/2008 12:36:05 PM PDT by Eaglefixer
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To: Berlin_Freeper

OH No.So they’re telling us that oil has been polluting the earth since time before the Dinasaurs went extinct.

I wonder if big oil had anything to do with that.


13 posted on 05/08/2008 12:42:30 PM PDT by puppypusher (The world is going to the dogs.)
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To: Berlin_Freeper

Waitaminit........ so, according to this theory, there was massive burning of fossil fuels — which, according to today’s enviro-whackos, causes global warming. But the evolutionists also say that the dinosaurs were wiped out because the earth cooled because of a global dust cloud from the meteor, don’t they?


14 posted on 05/08/2008 12:45:38 PM PDT by NewJerseyJoe (Rat mantra: "Facts are meaningless! You can use facts to prove anything that's even remotely true!")
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To: Berlin_Freeper
but didn't the stuff that was there 65 million years ago *become* the oil we burn today

That was conventional wisdom for a while. Not so sure anymore as Titan Has More Oil Than Earth is a little hard to explain by dead dinos and plants.

15 posted on 05/08/2008 12:52:34 PM PDT by Domandred (McCain's 'R' is a typo that has never been corrected)
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To: CougarGA7
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This is what really happened to the last dinosaur.

16 posted on 05/08/2008 1:02:46 PM PDT by skimask (Never argue with an idiot, they will drag you down to their level and beat you with experience)
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To: Berlin_Freeper
The dinosaur-killing Chicxulub meteor might have ignited an oilfield rather than forests when it slammed into the Gulf of Mexico 65 million years ago...

I guess that stupid theory that dinosaurs and the plants they ate didn't turn into oil after all.

17 posted on 05/08/2008 1:05:59 PM PDT by GingisK
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To: SunkenCiv

GGG ping


18 posted on 05/08/2008 1:47:11 PM PDT by Fractal Trader
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To: Berlin_Freeper
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19 posted on 05/08/2008 1:49:54 PM PDT by Sax
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To: pke

I bet there was only 40 years of oil left, too.


20 posted on 05/08/2008 1:58:27 PM PDT by In veno, veritas (Please identify my Ad Hominem attacks. I should be debating ideas.)
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To: El Sordo

Did you ever notice that in a forest fallen trees that have been there where they fell for many years are just hollow outlines of their former selves?

We can only assume that they slowly “combusted”, turned to water vapor and CO2 and left behind but traces of their former selves over 100s and 1000s of years; how much of the plant growth was supposed to have been trapped underground to be compressed into crude over time?


21 posted on 05/08/2008 2:06:55 PM PDT by Old Professer (The critic writes with rapier pen, dips it twice, and writes again.)
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To: Eaglefixer
There is a theory pursued by the Russians that oil is not a fossil fuel at all but is generated deep under the crust my microbes.

Which pretty much nobody takes seriously.

As evidence some oil wells in the gulf which were thought depleted have resurged.

You can get some movement of oil among reservoirs, but the claim of this as "proof" of abiogenic oil is essentially somewhere between a gross exagerration and a lie.

22 posted on 05/08/2008 2:17:49 PM PDT by Strategerist
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To: Old Professer
We can only assume that they slowly “combusted”, turned to water vapor and CO2 and left behind but traces of their former selves over 100s and 1000s of years; how much of the plant growth was supposed to have been trapped underground to be compressed into crude over time?

There are no trees, land plants, or dinosaurs in crude oil, and there's never been a theory to that effect.

Oil comes from ancient dead microscopic plankton (algae and diatoms) that lived in shallow seas.

23 posted on 05/08/2008 2:19:38 PM PDT by Strategerist
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To: Brilliant

A carbonaceous chondrite asteroid can be over 50% hydrocarbons. Yes, there is oil in outer space!


24 posted on 05/08/2008 2:37:57 PM PDT by darth
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To: Berlin_Freeper

INTREP - I have seen reports completely discounting this theory. Hmm?


25 posted on 05/08/2008 2:42:26 PM PDT by LiteKeeper (Beware the secularization of America; the Islamization of Eurabia)
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To: LiteKeeper

BUMP!


26 posted on 05/08/2008 4:12:00 PM PDT by Publius6961 (You're Government, it's not your money, and you never have to show a profit.)
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To: Strategerist

So I am thinking coal then, and not oil.


27 posted on 05/08/2008 5:10:50 PM PDT by El Sordo
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To: In veno, veritas
How long until we read about the dinosaur's industrial age which caused global warming and their own extinction?

I've often wondered if they did have something like that. Oh not the saurian glo-bull warming thing, but rather an dinosaur civilization. Wouldn't leave much evidence after 60-70 million years.

Maybe someday we'll find a satellite in a nice high and stable orbit that doesn't appear to be human made?

Well it would make a good SciFi story anyway, probably already has.

28 posted on 05/08/2008 5:14:41 PM PDT by El Gato ("The Second Amendment is the RESET button of the United States Constitution." -- Doug McKay)
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Comet/Asteroid Impacts and Human Society Comet/Asteroid Impacts
and Human Society

ed by Peter T. Bobrowsky
and Hans Rickman

intro (PDF)
due to links here


29 posted on 05/08/2008 6:37:20 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/_______________________Profile updated Monday, April 28, 2008)
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To: skimask

He choked to death on a Japanese jet fighter?


30 posted on 05/08/2008 7:14:42 PM PDT by CougarGA7 (Wisdom comes with age, but sometimes age comes alone.)
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To: Strategerist

Cool, then all that water must have receded or all the oil would now be found under the oceans; can we do that again?


31 posted on 05/08/2008 8:34:05 PM PDT by Old Professer (The critic writes with rapier pen, dips it twice, and writes again.)
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32 posted on 05/08/2008 9:36:26 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/_______________________Profile updated Monday, April 28, 2008)
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33 posted on 05/08/2008 9:45:54 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/_______________________Profile updated Monday, April 28, 2008)
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To: SunkenCiv

Irony of ironies. The Chixchulub crater was found by PEMEX, they were looking for oil...


34 posted on 05/08/2008 10:00:26 PM PDT by null and void (My brain is a sieve, and Aratosthenes is nowhere to be found. ~ Stolen from Darksheare...)
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To: null and void

Yeah, exactly. That was circa 1960. About 1970 someone floated the idea (in a scientific paper) that the dinos got snuffed by a huge impact and that was quickly ignored and forgotten, and no one connected those dots. In 1980 the “Snowbird” conferences were organized to summit and share regarding the Alvarez model of impact, and someone who remembered the drill cores from 1960 wrote to Luis Alvarez — no response. The Chicxulub crater was identified at last around 1990. Early in 1993 the Shoemakers and Levy discovered SL-9, which slammed piece by piece into Jupiter beginning in mid-1994. Systematic searches for Earth-crossing objects was finally organized on a broad scale thereafter.


35 posted on 05/08/2008 10:26:37 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/_______________________Profile updated Monday, April 28, 2008)
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To: El Gato

In “Aliens: The Final Answer” by David Barclay, a number of the unique or supposedly non-primate features of humans were said to be found in “Mankind, Child of the Stars” by Otto O. Binder and Max H. Flindt. Both of those are put forward as non-fiction research, but are at the far end of the bridge which sticks out over the edge of the Fringe.

James Hogan’s “Inherit the Stars” is now an oldie. I got it on interlibrary loan, and quite enjoyed it, well, most of it. It was recommended by a FReeper (of course). :’) It’s a sci-fi work that is sort of along the lines you said. That’s all I’ll say about it.


36 posted on 05/08/2008 10:31:55 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/_______________________Profile updated Monday, April 28, 2008)
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To: Eaglefixer
It was also researched by the late Thomas Gold.

The Deep, Hot Biosphere The Deep, Hot Biosphere
by Thomas Gold
foreword by Freeman Dyson


37 posted on 05/08/2008 10:35:30 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/_______________________Profile updated Monday, April 28, 2008)
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To: SunkenCiv; null and void

5) PROSPECTING FOR OIL? LOOK IN AN ASTEROID CRATER

http://abob.libs.uga.edu/bobk/ccc/cc121499.html


http://www.newscientist.com/article/dn2622-unique-meteorite-crater-found-under-north-sea.html

Unique meteorite crater found under North Sea

An impact crater has been found off the shores of the UK - but it is like nothing else on Earth.

Phil Allen, a consultant geophysicist based near Aberdeen, discovered the crater by chance. Petroleum giant BP had asked him to look at 3D seismic data from a gas field four kilometres below the North Sea. During his analysis, Allen discovered some unusual features in layers of chalk lying above the gas field, one kilometre beneath the seabed (Nature, vol 418, p 520).

What Allen saw looked like a crash site. “I was flabbergasted,” he says, “I’d never seen anything like it.” It wasn’t until a meeting with Simon Stewart, a BP structural geologist who also thought it looked like a crater, that Allen took the idea seriously...


38 posted on 05/08/2008 10:36:16 PM PDT by Fred Nerks
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To: Fred Nerks

...that looks familiar... hmm...

Prospecting for Oil? Look In an Asteroid Crater
space.com website | 14 December 1999 | By Michael Paine
Posted on 10/07/2006 6:33:48 PM PDT by Fred Nerks
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1715648/posts


39 posted on 05/08/2008 10:39:17 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/_______________________Profile updated Monday, April 28, 2008)
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To: SunkenCiv
THAT'S THE ONE!

Where does oil come from? "Rock oil originates as tiny bodies of animals buried in the sediments which, under the influence of increased temperature and pressure acting during an unimaginably long period of time transform into rock oil" -- M.V. Lomonosov 1757AD.

Maybe it's time to change the textbooks...

nothing personal Mr Lomonsov, but I can't help notice you're writing with a quill and probably came to work in a buggy...

40 posted on 05/08/2008 10:59:31 PM PDT by Fred Nerks
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To: Fred Nerks

...and powdered wig. :’)


41 posted on 05/08/2008 11:25:04 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/_______________________Profile updated Monday, April 28, 2008)
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To: Fred Nerks

You forget to mention, he’s wearing lace... frilly lace.

Sad.


42 posted on 05/08/2008 11:40:12 PM PDT by coconutt2000 (NO MORE PEACE FOR OIL!!! DOWN WITH TYRANTS, TERRORISTS, AND TIMIDCRATS!!!! (3-T's For World Peace))
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To: Strategerist
There are no trees, land plants, or dinosaurs in crude oil, and there's never been a theory to that effect.

Oil comes from ancient dead microscopic plankton (algae and diatoms) that lived in shallow seas.

Actually, during elementary and jr high school back in the 60's and 70's, we were taught that it came from dead dinosaurs, trees, and other plant life. Guess our teachers were taught wrong themselves. (Government conspiracy? You decide... Just kidding.)

43 posted on 05/09/2008 7:32:29 AM PDT by scan59 (Markets regulate better than government can.)
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To: Strategerist
There are no trees, land plants, or dinosaurs in crude oil, and there's never been a theory to that effect.

Oil comes from ancient dead microscopic plankton (algae and diatoms) that lived in shallow seas.


Well, I know I took some bio waste as an experiment and it seemed to decay into an oil-like morass. I say it is possible that past life has become fossil fuels but I do believe that is not the only way fossil fuels can form. I've heard of your theory as well and I believe that is it quite possible. IIRC, there was a Soviet scientist back in the 1970's who claimed that oil production can be a natural planetary process as well. There are stories of play out oil fields becoming viable again and even here in the Pittsburgh area, there is talk of bringing some old oil wells online again. I think there could be multiple ways and sources at play here.
44 posted on 05/09/2008 9:26:18 AM PDT by Nowhere Man (Is Barak HUSSEIN Obama the Anti-Christ? "Barak Ho-Tep!! Barak Ho-Tep!")
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To: Domandred

“That was conventional wisdom for a while. Not so sure anymore as Titan Has More Oil Than Earth is a little hard to explain by dead dinos and plants.”

Oh, now that’s going to be an interesting pipe line construction job.


45 posted on 05/09/2008 1:46:00 PM PDT by Grimmy (equivocation is but the first step along the road to capitulation)
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Asteroid Impact Made Hail of Carbon Beads
Sky & Telescope
May 5, 2008
United Press International
http://www.skyandtelescope.com/news/wires?id=117077452&c=y

The researchers said they believe the liquid carbon rocketed skyward and formed tiny airborne beads that blanketed the planet. The team of U.S., U.K., Italian and New Zealand researchers said those beads, known as carbon cenospheres, cannot be formed through plant matter combustion... The carbon cenospheres were deposited next to a thin layer of the element iridium — an element more likely to be found in solar system asteroids than on Earth. The iridium-laden dust is believed to be the shattered remains of the approximately 125-mile-wide asteroid’s impact.


46 posted on 05/12/2008 9:11:47 AM PDT by SunkenCiv (https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/_______________________Profile updated Monday, April 28, 2008)
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