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Insect Attack May Have Finished Off Dinosaurs
Science Daily ^ | 1-3-2008 | Oregon State University.

Posted on 01/03/2008 5:16:53 PM PST by blam

Insect Attack May Have Finished Off Dinosaurs

ScienceDaily (Jan. 4, 2008) — Asteroid impacts or massive volcanic flows might have occurred around the time dinosaurs became extinct, but a new argument is that the mightiest creatures the world has ever known may have been brought down by a tiny, much less dramatic force -- biting, disease-carrying insects.

Tick found in Burmese amber. (Credit: Image courtesy of Oregon State University)

An important contributor to the demise of the dinosaurs, experts say, could have been the rise and evolution of insects, especially the slow-but-overwhelming threat posed by new disease carriers. And the evidence for this emerging threat has been captured in almost lifelike-detail -- many types of insects preserved in amber that date to the time when dinosaurs disappeared.

"There are serious problems with the sudden impact theories of dinosaur extinction, not the least of which is that dinosaurs declined and disappeared over a period of hundreds of thousands, or even millions of years," said George Poinar Jr., a courtesy professor of zoology at Oregon State University. "That time frame is just not consistent with the effects of an asteroid impact. But competition with insects, emerging new diseases and the spread of flowering plants over very long periods of time is perfectly compatible with everything we know about dinosaur extinction."

This concept is outlined in detail in "What Bugged the Dinosaurs? Insects, Disease and Death in the Cretaceous," a book by George and Roberta Poinar, just published by Princeton University Press.

In it, the authors argue that insects provide a plausible and effective explanation for the slow, inexorable decline and eventual extinction of dinosaurs over many thousands of years. This period is known as the famous "K-T Boundary," or the line between the Cretaceous and Tertiary Period about 65 million years ago. There is evidence that some catastrophic events, such as a major asteroid or lava flows, also occurred at this time -- but these provide no complete explanation for the gradual decline of dinosaur populations, and even how some dinosaurs survived for thousands of years after the K-T Boundary.

Insects and disease, on the other hand, may have been a lot slower, but ultimately finished the job.

"We don't suggest that the appearance of biting insects and the spread of disease are the only things that relate to dinosaur extinction," Poinar said. "Other geologic and catastrophic events certainly played a role. But by themselves, such events do not explain a process that in reality took a very, very long time, perhaps millions of years. Insects and diseases do provide that explanation."

Poinar and his wife, Roberta, have spent much of their careers studying the plant and animal life forms found preserved in amber, using them to re-create the biological ecosystems that were in place millions of years ago. They are also authors of "The Amber Forest: A Reconstruction of a Vanished World."

As a semi-precious gem that first begins to form as sap oozing from a tree, amber has the unique ability to trap very small animals or other materials and -- as a natural embalming agent -- display them in nearly perfect, three-dimensional form millions of years later. This phenomenon has been invaluable in scientific and ecological research, and among other things, formed the scientific premise for the movie Jurassic Park, for the "dinosaur DNA" found in mosquitoes.

"During the late Cretaceous Period, the associations between insects, microbes and disease transmission were just emerging," Poinar said. "We found in the gut of one biting insect, preserved in amber from that era, the pathogen that causes leishmania -- a serious disease still today, one that can infect both reptiles and humans. In another biting insect, we discovered organisms that cause malaria, a type that infects birds and lizards today.

"In dinosaur feces, we found nematodes, trematodes and even protozoa that could have caused dysentery and other abdominal disturbances. The infective stages of these intestinal parasites are carried by filth-visiting insects."

In the Late Cretaceous, Poinar said, the world was covered with warm-temperate to tropical areas that swarmed with blood-sucking insects carrying leishmania, malaria, intestinal parasites, arboviruses and other pathogens, and caused repeated epidemics that slowly-but-surely wore down dinosaur populations. Ticks, mites, lice and biting flies would have tormented and weakened them.

"Smaller and separated populations of dinosaurs could have been repeatedly wiped out, just like when bird malaria was introduced into Hawaii, it killed off many of the honeycreepers," Poinar said. "After many millions of years of evolution, mammals, birds and reptiles have evolved some resistance to these diseases. But back in the Cretaceous, these diseases were new and invasive, and vertebrates had little or no natural or acquired immunity to them. Massive outbreaks causing death and localized extinctions would have occurred."

In similar fashion, the researchers suggest, insects would have played a major role in changing the nature of plant life on Earth -- the fundamental basis for all dinosaur life, whether herbivore, omnivore or carnivore. As the dinosaurs were declining, their traditional food items such as seed ferns, cycads, gingkoes and other gymnosperms were largely being displaced by flowering plants, which insects helped spread by their pollination activities. These plants would have spread to dominate the landscape. Also, insects could have spread plant diseases that destroyed large tracts of vegetation, and the insects could have been major competitors for the available plant food supply.

"Insects have exerted a tremendous impact on the entire ecology of the Earth, certainly shaping the evolution and causing the extinction of terrestrial organisms," the authors wrote in their book. "The largest of the land animals, the dinosaurs, would have been locked in a life-or-death struggle with them for survival."

The confluence of new insect-spread diseases, loss of traditional food sources, and competition for plants by insect pests could all have provided a lingering, debilitating condition that dinosaurs were ultimately unable to overcome, the researchers say. And these concerns -- which might have pressured the dinosaurs for thousands of years -- may have finished the job, along with the changing environment, meteor impacts and massive lava flows.

"We can't say for certain that insects are the smoking gun, but we believe they were an extremely significant force in the decline of the dinosaurs," Poinar said. "Our research with amber shows that there were evolving, disease-carrying vectors in the Cretaceous, and that at least some of the pathogens they carried infected reptiles. This clearly fills in some gaps regarding dinosaur extinctions."

Adapted from materials provided by Oregon State University.


TOPICS: News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: anythingbut; asteroid; catastrophism; dinosaurs; impactdenialsyndrome; insect; jurassicpark; mammalfarts; maybeitwasfastfood; pseudoscience; volcano

1 posted on 01/03/2008 5:16:55 PM PST by blam
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To: blam

in other words the scientists have no earthly clue what happened.


2 posted on 01/03/2008 5:19:28 PM PST by Brilliant
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To: blam

Ever notice how almost all “science” articles include the word “may” in them?


3 posted on 01/03/2008 5:20:16 PM PST by InvisibleChurch ( my favorite palindrome ... “a man, a plan, free republic”)
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To: blam
Total BS. Everyone knows that BUSH personally went back in time and killed the dinosaurs. He did it so they would decay into oil.

;)

4 posted on 01/03/2008 5:20:38 PM PST by pnh102
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To: blam
Insect Attack May Have Finished Off Dinosaurs

Couldn't have happened...there were no Democrats back then.
5 posted on 01/03/2008 5:20:38 PM PST by G8 Diplomat (Creatures are divided into 6 kingdoms: Animalia, Plantae, Fungi, Monera, Protista, & Saudi Arabia)
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To: Brilliant; blam

Nope. They now know that the dinosaurs clock ran out with a tick, tick, tick...


6 posted on 01/03/2008 5:20:59 PM PST by null and void (To anger a conservative, lie to him. To anger a liberal, tell him the truth. - M203M4)
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To: blam

Well, all I can say about this article is “Bite me!”


7 posted on 01/03/2008 5:21:10 PM PST by MadMax, the Grinning Reaper (Madmax, the Grinning Reaper)
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To: blam

Or a worldwide flood.


8 posted on 01/03/2008 5:22:06 PM PST by doc1019 (Rabbit and the Hare … Fred ‘08)
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To: blam

Sorry. Don’t buy it.
The evidence for the asteroid theory is too overwhelming.

But you can be sure that next week some scientist who is trying to make a name for himself may say “The Dinosaurs died from Herpes”!


9 posted on 01/03/2008 5:22:40 PM PST by djf (Q: What would America's founders be called today? A: Ron Paul supporters!!!)
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To: blam

Dino had worms?

Great now I have a mental image of a TRex dragging his butt on the carpet.


10 posted on 01/03/2008 5:23:02 PM PST by cripplecreek (Only one consistent conservative in this race and his name is Hunter.)
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To: blam

11 posted on 01/03/2008 5:23:04 PM PST by xcamel (FDT/2008)
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To: blam

Uh oh, global warming is going to give us all Lyme disease!


12 posted on 01/03/2008 5:23:25 PM PST by Disturbin (01-20-09: Another Republican's First Day)
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To: blam

Insects. Okay. Very big insects. But, should we expect to find some of these insects or would chitin not survive the millions of years?


13 posted on 01/03/2008 5:24:38 PM PST by RightWhale (Dean Koonz is good, but my favorite authors are Dun and Bradstreet)
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To: cripplecreek

ROTFLMAO!!

House train that sucka!!


14 posted on 01/03/2008 5:24:49 PM PST by djf (Q: What would America's founders be called today? A: Ron Paul supporters!!!)
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To: blam
"In dinosaur feces, we found nematodes.."

Global Worming.


15 posted on 01/03/2008 5:26:40 PM PST by I see my hands (_8(|)
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To: blam

Since the dinosaurs all died out regardless of size and the very large reptiles didn’t they really have to come up with another explanation than climate change. As far as ticks go why would the dinosaurs be affected and not their close cousins the birds?

Better get back to the lab, dude.

My money is on the Dileks.


16 posted on 01/03/2008 5:27:09 PM PST by Seruzawa (Attila the Hun... wasn't he a liberal?)
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To: pnh102
Total BS. Everyone knows that BUSH personally went back in time and killed the dinosaurs. He did it so they would decay into oil. ;) LOL!!! Dont forget Dick Cheney's part in the sinking of the Titanic.
17 posted on 01/03/2008 5:27:20 PM PST by max americana
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To: cripplecreek
TOBY!!!
18 posted on 01/03/2008 5:27:36 PM PST by null and void (To anger a conservative, lie to him. To anger a liberal, tell him the truth. - M203M4)
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To: null and void

Scrub a dub dub.


19 posted on 01/03/2008 5:30:30 PM PST by cripplecreek (Only one consistent conservative in this race and his name is Hunter.)
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To: blam

Is that life size pic of the tick?

If so, no wonder!


20 posted on 01/03/2008 5:31:34 PM PST by Eagle Eye (If you agree with Democrats you agree with America's enemies.)
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To: InvisibleChurch
Just “SWAG” … Scientific Wild Ass Guess. ;-)
21 posted on 01/03/2008 5:32:25 PM PST by doc1019 (Rabbit and the Hare … Fred ‘08)
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To: Brilliant

It was a plague of locusts.


22 posted on 01/03/2008 5:33:52 PM PST by dr_who_2
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To: InvisibleChurch

true.

These idiotic scientists are just modern day “guessers”.

Betcha the “al gore brigade” will say it wasn’t the insects BUT GLOBAL WARMING THAT KILLED THE DINOS.


23 posted on 01/03/2008 5:34:00 PM PST by max americana
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To: InvisibleChurch
Ever notice how almost all “science” articles include the word “may” in them?

Well, it is speculation, isn't it? Don't you recall being taught in school that one step of the scientific method is "hypothesis"?

24 posted on 01/03/2008 5:34:34 PM PST by sionnsar (trad-anglican.faithweb.com |Iran Azadi| 5yst3m 0wn3d - it's N0t Y0ur5 (SONY) | UN: Useless Nations)
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To: pnh102

You’re my hero!


25 posted on 01/03/2008 5:34:39 PM PST by dr_who_2
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To: sionnsar

I think today’s scientists have included “funding” and “hype” in the scientific method. But, yes, you are right.


26 posted on 01/03/2008 5:38:25 PM PST by InvisibleChurch ( my favorite palindrome ... “a man, a plan, free republic”)
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To: InvisibleChurch; Brilliant
An important contributor to the demise of the dinosaurs, experts say, could have been the rise and evolution of insects,

Hey now!

How dare you doubt the "experts"!!!!

The global cooling....warming....change....'sperts have convinced me!

They have rock solid science behind their findings.....

Right?

27 posted on 01/03/2008 5:40:02 PM PST by LasVegasMac (Islam: Bringing the world death and destruction for 1400 years!)
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To: blam

“Insect Attack May Have Finished Off Dinosaurs”

Something like bloggers and the MSM.


28 posted on 01/03/2008 5:43:11 PM PST by atomic conspiracy (Rousing the blog-rabble since 9-11-01)
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To: InvisibleChurch
Well yes, but this seemed fairly reasonable.

Great cartoon (I won't say "comic" because it's not very funny) on your profile page, BTW. That is a keeper -- if only as a reminder to us all.

29 posted on 01/03/2008 5:44:31 PM PST by sionnsar (trad-anglican.faithweb.com |Iran Azadi| 5yst3m 0wn3d - it's N0t Y0ur5 (SONY) | UN: Useless Nations)
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To: Seruzawa

It wasn’t the Dileks, it was the Cybermen. They were going to try and destroy the earth by crashing a spaceship into it but the Doctor sent it back in time and it ended up being the cause of the dinosaur extinction, as well as the extinction of Aderick.


30 posted on 01/03/2008 5:48:01 PM PST by Duke Nukum (He burns at the center of time and he sees the turn of the Universe.)
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To: InvisibleChurch

That’s how knowledge comes to be.


31 posted on 01/03/2008 5:48:23 PM PST by Psycho_Bunny
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To: Seruzawa

So what caused the marine dinosaurs to die out? Marine insects are almost non-existent.


32 posted on 01/03/2008 5:50:49 PM PST by gitmo (From now on, ending a sentence with a preposition is something up with which I will not put.)
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To: Seruzawa

You mean Daleks. And no, it wasn’t them. It was smoking that did it.


33 posted on 01/03/2008 5:56:01 PM PST by dr_who_2
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To: blam
Bug
34 posted on 01/03/2008 5:56:08 PM PST by Snickering Hound
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To: blam
Ticks are not insects. They are arachnids. Anyway, insects were around long before dinosaurs. Certainly in the long history of dinosaurs, insects wouldn't have waited until the K-T boundary to evolve forms which sucked dinosaur blood. Furthermore, disease-causing parasites which kill all their hosts outright don't survive very long themselves. Virtually all higher animals have parasites, yet they survive. Just finding evidence that dinos had parasites doesn't really prove anything.

And for heaven's sake, don't let anyone clone something from the blood in that tick in the amber.

35 posted on 01/03/2008 7:00:20 PM PST by hellbender
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To: Psycho_Bunny; InvisibleChurch

By that, then knowledge becomes temporal, truth is eternal.


36 posted on 01/03/2008 7:01:44 PM PST by valkyry1
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To: SunkenCiv

GGG?


37 posted on 01/03/2008 7:02:10 PM PST by Calpernia (Hunters Rangers - Raising the Bar of Integrity http://www.barofintegrity.us)
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To: Calpernia
..GREAT Rangers Show tonight--the best yet

DH is upbeat and the NH and FL people are too--we ain't done yet...

38 posted on 01/03/2008 7:15:47 PM PST by WalterSkinner ( In Memory of My Father--WWII Vet and Patriot 1926-2007)
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To: WalterSkinner
My kids had a project for school and I missed it live. Will catch it on demand tomorrow.

Hunter's Rangers On Demand!

39 posted on 01/03/2008 7:18:26 PM PST by Calpernia (Hunters Rangers - Raising the Bar of Integrity http://www.barofintegrity.us)
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To: hellbender

Re “Don’t let anyone clone something from the blood in that tick in the amber”.

Sorry, too late. Coming to a theater near you - Juraissic Park, XX - The Rise of the Ticks”

This article also gives new meaning to the phrases:

“Don’t tick me off” and

“Don’t bug me”

Mosasaurs rule!


40 posted on 01/03/2008 7:22:58 PM PST by MadMax, the Grinning Reaper (Madmax, the Grinning Reaper)
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To: Calpernia
..don't bother with Monks' telephone comments--the guy is a complete --well you fill in the blank

He doesn't know jack about politics, but gives the DH campaign a lot of meaningless advice--maybe he should just stick to podcasting...

41 posted on 01/03/2008 7:30:24 PM PST by WalterSkinner ( In Memory of My Father--WWII Vet and Patriot 1926-2007)
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To: valkyry1

....................huh?


42 posted on 01/03/2008 8:07:23 PM PST by Psycho_Bunny
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To: Psycho_Bunny

What do you mean?

‘....................huh??


43 posted on 01/03/2008 9:14:27 PM PST by valkyry1
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To: djf
Sorry. Don’t buy it. The evidence for the asteroid theory is too overwhelming.

Disease outbreaks commonly follow catastrophes, so the hypothesis as an adjunct to the asteroid theory is valid.

44 posted on 01/03/2008 11:08:14 PM PST by Sarajevo (You're just jealous because the voices only talk to me.)
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To: blam; 75thOVI; AFPhys; Alice in Wonderland; AndrewC; aristotleman; Avoiding_Sulla; BenLurkin; ...
The real explanation? They were MURDERED!!! ;') Thanks blam, I just had a great laugh to start the new year. I'd better add "jurassic park" to the keywords.
 
Catastrophism
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45 posted on 01/04/2008 9:00:18 AM PST by SunkenCiv (https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/____________________Profile updated Sunday, December 30, 2007)
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To: SunkenCiv
No, no, no, they weren't murdered, they pooped themselves to death. Viz.,

“In dinosaur feces, we found nematodes, trematodes and even protozoa that could have caused dysentery and other abdominal disturbances. The infective stages of these intestinal parasites are carried by filth-visiting insects.”

46 posted on 01/04/2008 1:35:43 PM PST by Brujo (Quod volunt, credunt.)
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To: InvisibleChurch
Ever notice how almost all “science” articles include the word “may” in them?

Well in order for them to know for sure, they would've had to be present at the time of the dinosaurs. Last I checked no human beings were around 65 million years ago. Hence the "may."

Ever notice how so many FReepers so readily shoot down scientists' conclusions when they probably haven't picked up a textbook in twenty years?
47 posted on 01/04/2008 1:40:05 PM PST by G8 Diplomat (Creatures are divided into 6 kingdoms: Animalia, Plantae, Fungi, Monera, Protista, & Saudi Arabia)
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To: Brujo

Primatodes are my personal favorites. And I thought only trees got trematodes.


48 posted on 01/04/2008 10:36:10 PM PST by SunkenCiv (https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/____________________Profile updated Sunday, December 30, 2007)
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