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How the food pyramid shaped the obesity epidemic
YouTube ^ | May 31, 2023 | Jordon Peterson

Posted on 05/31/2023 5:13:47 PM PDT by ConservativeInPA

In this video, Dr Peterson and Dr. Peter Attia discuss the food pyramid, the standard American diet, and their impact on insulin resistance and obesity.


TOPICS: Agriculture; Chit/Chat; Food; Health/Medicine
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With a few moments of the video beginning my first thought was government has always been incompetent. There is no power in the US Constitution to advise people about what to eat. I’m willing to bet if government stayed away from food there would be many more thin and hot women out there. I’m sick of seeing cows wearing their lime green polyester pants that cling to the ripples of their cellulite. Maybe there would be few trans guys if women weren’t such porkers.
1 posted on 05/31/2023 5:13:47 PM PDT by ConservativeInPA
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To: ConservativeInPA

I have said for a long time that many fat people actually try to eat healthy.

Obesity is caused by the government.


2 posted on 05/31/2023 5:17:37 PM PDT by Fai Mao (Starve the beast and steal its food!)
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I have said for a long time that many fat people actually try to eat healthy.

You have a point there. I’m skinny as a rail and I eat what my body craves without regard to the science. The key is to stop eating when I am full. I had a great baked potato with dinner tonight. It had all the trimmings; bacon, sour cream, chives, butter, salt and pepper. I could only eat half of it. I stopped when I was full.

3 posted on 05/31/2023 5:27:25 PM PDT by ConservativeInPA ("How did you go bankrupt?s" Bill asked. "Two ways," Mike said. "Gradually and then suddenly." )
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To: Fai Mao

“Dr. Jason Fung: Financial Conflicts of Interests and the End of Evidence-Based Medicine”

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z6IO2DZjOkY

“Evidence-based medicine is actually so corrupt as to be useless or harmful,” Marcia Angell wrote in 2009. The statement was less a revelation than something many already knew, but it made waves because of its source. Angell, a medical insider, had spent two decades as the editor-in-chief of the New England Journal of Medicine.

Dr. Jason Fung is also a medical insider who has become wary of scientific research that purports to be “evidence based.” A well-known nephrologist and author, Fung often speaks about Type-2 diabetes reversal and the metabolic effects of intermittent fasting, but in this presentation from Dec. 15, 2018, he turns his focus toward the many ways the foundations of evidence-based medicine have become corrupted by financial conflicts of interest.

The first conflicts of interest he highlights pertain to the corruption of doctors. Practicing physicians who accept gifts from Big Pharma are 225-335% more likely to prescribe drugs from the gift-giving company than those who do not, Fung explains.

The corruption of doctors in prestigious universities is even worse, he claims. “There’s a clear correlation: The more prestigious a doctor, the more money they’re getting from the pharmaceutical.” Anecdotally, he says, this means you may be better off seeking medical advice from a family physician than from a Harvard professor; the former probably just accepted a $10 pen from Big Pharma while the latter is on the take for $500,000. “It just is a terrible system,” he says. “Yet, these people are the people that are in the newspaper. They’re the ones that are teaching medical students, are the ones who are teaching the — the dietitians, the pharmacist — everybody.”

The most insidious corruption affects the published research on particular drugs. Fung highlights the influence industry can have when it finds a medical journal editor willing to take its money. Another problem arises in the form of industry-funded medical research. This conflict of interest leads to the selective publication of positive trials, which can skew the science on particular drugs and lead to unnecessary or even dangerous overprescription. Fung notes how statin prescriptions illustrate the scope of this particular problem.

“We accept this of drug companies … but the problem is that people die,” Fung says. He later adds: “You can make arguments that sugar is a health food, that opioids are good for you … but it harms patients, and we always have to remember that at the end of the day, this is not why we became doctors. The reason we became doctors was to help people, but we’re not until we kind of set those same rules as everybody else.”

Full transcript here:

https://s3.amazonaws.com/crossfitpubliccontent/Dr_Jason_Fung_DDC_ConflictsOfInterest.pdf


4 posted on 05/31/2023 5:28:17 PM PDT by Mr Rogers (We're a nation of feelings, not thoughts.)
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To: ConservativeInPA

You make a good point. The purpose of eating is to fuel one’s body. If one can enjoy the meal, that’s just lagniappe.

I eat a balanced diet. I am an active guy, even though I’m in my 70s. I don’t eat sweets or cakes or donuts or ice cream, or...well, you get the picture. I put on my plate enough to provide me with the fuel I need, and nothing more (I don’t “top off the tank”).


5 posted on 05/31/2023 5:33:53 PM PDT by ought-six (Multiculturalism is national suicide, and political correctness is the cyanide capsule. )
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To: ConservativeInPA

I already knew to ignore Karens & busybodies by the time I was in school & they started teaching that.


6 posted on 05/31/2023 5:36:33 PM PDT by Still Thinking (Freedom is NOT a loophole!)
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To: ConservativeInPA

“There is no power in the US Constitution to advise people about what to eat.”

True, but as they’re learning in the EU, where they’ll soon be limited to just over 1 pound of meat a month (specifically, the proposal is for a limit of 10 grams per day), the term ‘advise’ that you use, will soon be replaced with ‘compel’.


7 posted on 05/31/2023 5:40:29 PM PDT by BobL
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To: ConservativeInPA

The food pyramid isn’t the problem. We are giving school kids breakfast, lunch and dinner to take home to their obese family members. They even give meals during the summer and the families are already getting food stamps.

Every school district has found that when they do this they increase dramitally the number of obese kids.


8 posted on 05/31/2023 5:45:18 PM PDT by ladyjane
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To: ConservativeInPA

I am addictive to SUGAR. One by one I have given up all sugar including carbs with sugar (all carbs!). I learned one month ago I lost 40 pounds in 6 months.

Fructose is the worst sugar. It causes fatty liver. Research.


9 posted on 05/31/2023 5:47:01 PM PDT by Karoo
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To: ConservativeInPA

Who would think if you endorsed a diet that is basically the diet cattle are fed to quickly gain weight, people would get fat/obese and become diabetic?

Maybe one more reason you don’t listen to government and so called experts...


10 posted on 05/31/2023 5:50:47 PM PDT by Secret Agent Man (Gone Galt; not averse to Going Bronson.)
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To: ConservativeInPA

Likely tens of MILLIONS of Americans have died prematurely because of the Food Pyramid. The only question is whether or not this is deliberate.


11 posted on 05/31/2023 5:52:54 PM PDT by rottndog (What comes after America?)
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Oh. Diabetic Ass. say it’s ok to eat sugar and peanut butter!!! How can they say that? When I was a child, they called it “sugar diabetes” ... not diabetes. So if a person eats sugar, then they have a drug so they can continue to eat sugar.

What has the gov’t , the food companies, and drug industry done to us!

My A1C in four months went from 5.8 to 5.4 ...no sugar not one bit


12 posted on 05/31/2023 5:53:02 PM PDT by Karoo
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To: ConservativeInPA

At my first clinical position as a freshly graduated DO, I received a copy of the NEW and IMPROVED “Food Pyramid” at my office.

I had many hours of nutrition in med school, courses in undergrad, and had been feeding myself for years prior to starting college (with 7 years active duty Army in between) weighed less at 35 than I did when I graduated high school 17 years prior.

I had a pretty good idea the pyramid was a recipe for disaster. I posted it dutifully in my office - UPSIDE DOWN. Patients would ask, and I would tell them my belief that carbs were going to create a generation of obese, diabetic people.

That was in 1992. Was I right?


13 posted on 05/31/2023 6:05:21 PM PDT by normbal (normbal. somewhere in socialist occupied America ‘tween MD and TN)
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Maybe if the government didn't go after "big tobacco" we wouldn't have this problem...perhaps we swapped one vice for another?

I'm just sayin'....

14 posted on 05/31/2023 6:11:16 PM PDT by DoodleBob ( Gravity’s waiting period is about 9.8 m/s²)
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To: Fai Mao

“Obesity is caused by the government.”

Notice lately how the FDA has saved us all — “Contains Bioengineered Food Ingredients”

Useless labeling is helping NO ONE.


15 posted on 05/31/2023 6:21:25 PM PDT by George from New England
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To: ConservativeInPA

For me, the Stop button has malfunctioned, I think, for years. It simply doesn’t feel all that bad to eat past full. Only now that I am on Ozempic do I often realize that I am full, completely done, and I absolutely can walk away from the rest of the food, no matter what it is. This must be what normal people feel when they eat wholesome, satiating foods. I hope I can internalize this as my weight drops and my A1c lowers.


16 posted on 05/31/2023 7:00:20 PM PDT by married21 (As for me and my house, we will serve the Lord.)
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To: ConservativeInPA

Quit blaming government. That is loser-thinking.
I recommend all on here watch “Fasting for Survival” by Dr. Pradip Jamnadas. Link here - https://youtu.be/RuOvn4UqznU
Once you watch this you will be ready to help yourself and others to lose weight and get healthy.
Excessive Carbohydrates are one of the biggest problems in the USA average diet. Carbs are in beer, sugar, candy, bread, rice, ice cream.
Some foods that are low carb: Meat, eggs, spinach.
You really need to watch the video; and read through some of the comments.
I don’t agree with Dr. Jamnadas’ evolutionary beliefs, but the creation model/perspective makes even more sense as to explaining what is healthy eating. In terms of both frequency of meals and what to eat.
Best wishes to those who want to break free from letting Hollywood and the Grocery and fastfood Industries brainwash you.


17 posted on 05/31/2023 7:59:50 PM PDT by Honest Nigerian
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To: married21

I find the beauty of carnivore or Keto is I don’t get cravings. Unless I cheat and eat a bit more carbs...

But with carnivore, I just hit a point where I don’t WANT to eat more. So I don’t.


18 posted on 05/31/2023 8:01:57 PM PDT by Mr Rogers (We're a nation of feelings, not thoughts.)
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To: Honest Nigerian

My rule has always been. “ All things in moderation “..


19 posted on 05/31/2023 8:06:01 PM PDT by Mears (.)
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To: ConservativeInPA

Would that be the food pyramid that no one pay’s any attention to?


20 posted on 05/31/2023 8:15:48 PM PDT by eclecticEel ("The petty man forsakes what lies within his power and longs for what lies with Heaven." - Xunzi)
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