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Massive ocean discovered beneath the Earth's crust containing more water than on the surface
msn ^ | 5/6/2023 | Harry Fletcher

Posted on 05/08/2023 4:30:17 AM PDT by george76

It feels like there have been staggering science stories emerging every other day recently...

First, there was the discovery of a terrifying black hole pointing right at us, then there was a huge hole found in the sun and a missing continent found after going missing for 375 years.

Now, people are only just realising that there’s a massive ocean hidden under the Earth’s crust.

It turns out there’s a huge supply of water 400 miles underground stored in rock known as 'ringwoodite'.

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Scientists previously discovered that water is stored inside mantle rock in a sponge-like state, which isn’t a liquid, solid or a gas, but instead a fourth state.

The scientific paper titled ‘Dehydration melting at the top of the lower mantle’ .

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"The ringwoodite is like a sponge, soaking up water, there is something very special about the crystal structure of ringwoodite that allows it to attract hydrogen and trap water,"..

"This mineral can contain a lot of water under conditions of the deep mantle,”

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we are finally seeing evidence for a whole-Earth water cycle, which may help explain the vast amount of liquid water on the surface of our habitable planet. Scientists have been looking for this missing deep water for decades."

Scientists made the findings at the time after studying earthquakes and discovering that seismometers were picking up shockwaves under the surface of the Earth.

From that, they were able to establish that the water was being held in the rock known as ringwoodite.

If the rock contained just 1 per cent water, it would mean that there is three times more water under the surface of the Earth than there is in the oceans on the surface.

(Excerpt) Read more at msn.com ...


TOPICS: Science; Travel; Weather; Weird Stuff
KEYWORDS: catastrophism; ringwoodite; water
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To: alexander_busek

Blah blah blah


121 posted on 05/09/2023 9:52:08 AM PDT by Fledermaus (It's time to get rid of the Three McStooges; Mitch, Kevin and Ronna!)
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To: alexander_busek
I can only repeat: Overwought interpretations of half-understood scientific papers providing weak support for or at least not outright opposing established Biblical doctrines are of little to no use to anyone - and they represent a snare for people of faith.

OK, not that we need it, but I will ask: How does this, in principle at least, oppose and exclude support for the Biblical account, if the water-rich mantle plumes can migrate upwards and break through the boundary to the upper mantle, so that water contained in the mantle plumes is released?

122 posted on 05/09/2023 10:32:31 AM PDT by daniel1212 (Turn to the Lord Jesus as a damned+destitute sinner, trust Him who saves, be baptized + follow Him!)
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To: daniel1212
[...] but I will ask: How does this, in principle at least, oppose and exclude support for the Biblical account, if [...]

Please re-read my post.

Overwrought interpretations of half-understood scientific papers providing weak support for or at least not outright opposing established Biblical doctrines are of little to no use...

I am saying that an article which seems to slightly support the Bible, or which - at best - doesn't contradict it, should be given only minimal attention.

It's not Earth-shaking. And it encourages a certain mode of thinking that can lead down dark paths.

Understand now?

Regards,

123 posted on 05/09/2023 11:01:54 AM PDT by alexander_busek (Extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence.)
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To: Big Red Badger; daniel1212
How did I get in Your cat fight?

Your pardon, Big Red Badger. I "used" your posting to illustrate my point to daniel1212. Perhaps that was a breach of etiquette.

My point - and, yes: perhaps it is my pet peeve - is that it is intellectually dangerous to adopt the mindset of "Oh, here's a poorly-written and biased article written by some hack with a hidden agenda, citing some other article, about some scientific "discovery" that supposedly bolsters the Bible."

It fosters the mindset of "The Bible needs bolstering." And this same tactic can also be used to attack faith, by digging up some factoid that apparently disproves the Bible. If you accept the support, you must also accept the undermining, if you wish to remain intellectually honest and consistent.

Lastly - and I hesitate to say this because some of you might take offense - I sincerely doubt that anyone here is truly capable of understanding the actual science here and especially perceiving its irrelevancy.

Regards,

124 posted on 05/09/2023 11:17:02 AM PDT by alexander_busek (Extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence.)
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To: alexander_busek

I get you and thanks
.
I live in a BUMPER STICKER mentality.


125 posted on 05/09/2023 11:42:10 AM PDT by Big Red Badger (The Truman Show)
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To: DiogenesLamp
No historical record of him existed until relatively recently.

What counts as a 'historical' record?

126 posted on 05/09/2023 11:43:22 AM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: daniel1212
Perhaps the 'water' coming upward accounts for the 'mist' that watered the plants.


Genesis 2:5-6 niv
 
5 Now no shrub had yet appeared on the earth[a] and no plant had yet sprung up, for the Lord God had not sent rain on the earth and there was no one to work the ground,
 but streams[b] came up from the earth and watered the whole surface of the ground. 
 
b: Genesis 2:6 Or mist
 
 

127 posted on 05/09/2023 11:49:50 AM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: alexander_busek
I sincerely doubt that anyone here is truly capable of understanding the actual science here ...

Possibly true, but when some 'actual science' is finally revealed; I'll look at it in a bit more detail.

128 posted on 05/09/2023 11:51:41 AM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: Big Red Badger

Only trucks have ‘bumpers’ any more.

Cars have ‘fascia panels’.

https://www.carparts.com/blog/bumper-cover-vs-bumper-what-is-the-difference/


129 posted on 05/09/2023 11:54:31 AM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: Elsie
What counts as a 'historical' record?

In the context of this discussion, information recorded outside of the bible's reference to it.

130 posted on 05/09/2023 12:11:17 PM PDT by DiogenesLamp ("of parents owing allegiance to no other sovereignty.")
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To: Elsie

and they ain’t Metal !
Aerodynamic Plastics that don’t
Stand up to a ‘Bug Strike!’


131 posted on 05/09/2023 1:03:30 PM PDT by Big Red Badger (The Truman Show)
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To: alexander_busek
I think I found the problem:

Extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence.

To the contrary,
Now faith is the assurance of things hoped for, the conviction of things not seen. (Hebrews 11:1)

That's my belief.

In the end, we will see who's right - and who's wrong.

Until then...

"Regards,"

132 posted on 05/09/2023 1:14:46 PM PDT by kinsman redeemer (The real enemy seeks to devour what is good. )
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To: Elsie

Then my 4th grade teacher lied to us. And I’ve been there many times. Hmmm, same teacher also told me Pluto was a planet.

HA


133 posted on 05/09/2023 1:47:49 PM PDT by Fledermaus (It's time to get rid of the Three McStooges; Mitch, Kevin and Ronna!)
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To: alexander_busek

Thanks. Better write up than the article from MSN: https://scitechdaily.com/an-underground-ocean-scientists-discover-water-deep-within-earth/


134 posted on 05/09/2023 5:55:02 PM PDT by daniel1212 (Turn to the Lord Jesus as a damned+destitute sinner, trust Him who saves, be baptized + follow Him!)
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To: daniel1212
The current circumstances would undoubtedly favor this.

And don't you DARE doubt it!

135 posted on 05/10/2023 5:13:30 AM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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