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Who Was Eating Salmon 45,000 Years Ago in the Caucasus? Neandertals...
Science News ^ | September 17, 2013 | Universitaet Tubingen

Posted on 09/27/2013 5:56:26 PM PDT by SunkenCiv

In a joint study, Professor Hervé Bocherens of the University of Tübingen, Germany, together with colleagues from the Zoological Institute of the Russian Academy of Sciences in Saint Petersburg, Russia and the Royal Belgian Institute of Natural Sciences in Brussels, Belgium have found at a cave in the Caucasus Mountains indirect hints of fish consumption by Neandertals... Bone analyses ruled out cave bears and cave lions to have consumed the fish whose remains were found at the Caucasian cave... located on the northern slopes of the Caucasus Mountains, called Kudaro 3.

There, the bone fragments of large salmon, migrating from marine water to their freshwater spawning places, were found in the Middle Palaeolithic archaeological layers, dated to around 42 to 48,000 years ago, and probably deposited by Neandertals. Such remains suggested that fish was consumed by these archaic Humans. However, large carnivores, such as Asiatic cave bears (Ursus kudarensis) and cave lions (Panthera spelaea) were also found in the cave and could have brought the salmon bones in the caves.

To test this hypothesis, the possible contribution of marine fish in the diet of these carnivores was evaluated using carbon, nitrogen and sulphur isotopes in faunal bone collagen, comparing these isotopic signatures between predators and their potential prey. The results indicate that salmons were neither part of the diet of cave bears (they were purely vegetarian, like their European counterparts) or cave lions (they were predators of herbivores from arid areas).

(Excerpt) Read more at sciencedaily.com ...


TOPICS: History; Science; Travel
KEYWORDS: dietandcuisine; godsgravesglyphs; neandertal; neandertals; neanderthal; neanderthals

Full title: "Who Was Eating Salmon 45,000 Years Ago in the Caucasus? Neandertals Probably Not as Rigid in Their Diet as Thought".
The map shows the location of the Kudaro 3 cave in the Caucasian Mountains. (Credit: H. Bocherens/University of Tübingen)

The map shows the location of the Kudaro 3 cave in the Caucasian Mountains. (Credit: H. Bocherens/University of Tübingen)

1 posted on 09/27/2013 5:56:26 PM PDT by SunkenCiv
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To: StayAt HomeMother; Ernest_at_the_Beach; decimon; 1010RD; 21twelve; 24Karet; 2ndDivisionVet; ...

Yes 84%, No 15%, I'm not sure 1%, Votes Cast: 1701. Good Digest ping.

2 posted on 09/27/2013 5:58:47 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (It's no coincidence that some "conservatives" echo the hard left.)
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The Neandertal Enigma
by James Shreeve

in local libraries
"Frayer's own reading of the record reveals a number of overlooked traits that clearly and specifically link the Neandertals to the Cro-Magnons. One such trait is the shape of the opening of the nerve canal in the lower jaw, a spot where dentists often give a pain-blocking injection. In many Neandertal, the upper portion of the opening is covered by a broad bony ridge, a curious feature also carried by a significant number of Cro-Magnons. But none of the alleged 'ancestors of us all' fossils from Africa have it, and it is extremely rare in modern people outside Europe." [pp 126-127]

3 posted on 09/27/2013 5:59:18 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (It's no coincidence that some "conservatives" echo the hard left.)
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To: SunkenCiv

My favorite fish , especially raw !


4 posted on 09/27/2013 6:00:11 PM PDT by sushiman
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To: SunkenCiv

Neanderthals are looking more like us discovery by discovery. Meat, veggies and fish. The big question, did they discover beer??


5 posted on 09/27/2013 6:15:04 PM PDT by JimSEA
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To: SunkenCiv

Served with lemon dill sauce, I hope.


6 posted on 09/27/2013 6:37:50 PM PDT by fieldmarshaldj (Resist We Much)
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To: JimSEA
The big question, did they discover beer??

Of course, they did.

Beer is why prehistoric man turned from a nomadic hunter/gatherer existence to a permanent farming society, organized around cultivating grain.

7 posted on 09/27/2013 7:00:08 PM PDT by okie01 (The Mainstream Media: Ignorance On Parade)
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To: SunkenCiv
dated to around 42 to 48,000 years ago

42 Years ago? That would be one of the latest sightings for Neadertals I've ever heard of.

8 posted on 09/28/2013 8:09:13 AM PDT by 1010RD (First, Do No Harm)
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To: SunkenCiv
Neandertals Probably Not as Rigid in Their Diet as Thought

Absurd. They were very rigid. They only ate fish on Fridays.

9 posted on 09/28/2013 8:10:01 AM PDT by 1010RD (First, Do No Harm)
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To: SunkenCiv
Who were those people eating salmon 45,000 years ago? Who? Who? Who those people?


10 posted on 09/28/2013 8:29:01 AM PDT by SamAdams76
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To: SunkenCiv

Bagels, cream cheese, capers and onion found nearby . . .


11 posted on 10/02/2013 2:48:42 PM PDT by colorado tanker
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To: colorado tanker

And lactose tolerance? Probably came from the Neandertals. Probably the baking of leavened bread did also.


12 posted on 10/02/2013 5:55:06 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (It's no coincidence that some "conservatives" echo the hard left.)
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To: SamAdams76

I’m pretty sure the Neandertal men wouldn’t have hit that. ;’)


13 posted on 10/02/2013 5:56:20 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (It's no coincidence that some "conservatives" echo the hard left.)
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To: 1010RD

Well, there is that big eastern European boxer...


14 posted on 10/02/2013 5:56:54 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (It's no coincidence that some "conservatives" echo the hard left.)
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