Skip to comments.First Obamacare Death Panel Sentences 3,500 To Slow Death
Posted on 02/14/2013 7:04:56 PM PST by RetiredTexasVet
The first Obamacare Death Panel, headed by Ezekiel Emanuel, issued death sentences to 3,500 patients. After evaluating their cases, the panel determined that the patients did not meet the minimum economic cost-benefit criteria and would be terminated within a week. Having a semblance of humanity, the ordered slow death would be painless and with dignity. All 3,500 patients will be loaded on a Carnival Cruise ship and set off on a 1 week cruise. Patients will be plied with liquor and drugs until they were in an absolute stupor. No toilet facilities or food will be provided as all the patients will be thrown over the side on the second day out. Emanuel stated that by throwing them over the side on the second day out it would save money and keep them under control as they would be expecting a full 7 day cruise before their demise.
My dad was sentenced to death today. 81 years old, going through chemo and the insurance company refuses to pay for the pet scan.
It has begun.
I am so sorry for you and your father.
Not medically necessary when you’re 81 years old. Have to save money for an illegal to get boob implants.
Brillant! Post of the Year!
Brillant! Post of the Year!
Start reading about natural cures in the internet.
Wouldn’t it be more certainly lethal to force them to stay on the Carnival cruise ship?
>>> Start reading about natural cures in the internet.
I have read that if you freeze whole lemons, and grate them on your food, the food tastes a lot better AND the natural ingredients in lemon peel is 10,000 times more effective than Chemo without the side effects.
Good Lord. PET scans aren’t that expensive, are they? It’s not major surgery. Any insurance co. could afford it.
I’m sorry about your father.
Check out the Huntsman Cancer Center in Utah. They’ve had a tradition of accepting patients with limited ability to pay.
I’m so sorry.
what regimen did she follow?
Best wishes for your father and you.
My father had colon cancer. He is on a bag now. He skipped chemo because he’d read doctors say they wouldn’t use chemo.
He’s cancer free, now—much to the surprise of his doctor.
BUT, others benefit from chemo, seemingly.
Life’s a crapshoot—none of us get out of it alive.
Always remember...we have a better place to go, and I don’t think we’ll see Bath-House Barry there.
From me, however, is no sarcasm. Mr. EQAndyBuzz, I'm so sad to hear about your Dad. God bless him and your family.
I am sorry to hear about your Dad.
My neighbor next door proudly announced her doctor told her she has had her last ever mamo. She seemed ok with it having been told that at her age 70ish, she and clear mammos over the years she would be fine.
I told her that is bunk. Another friend who is in her early 60s had an annual mammo and then the next year a digital and guess what it picked up? A “something” the size of a . yep just that big. Her doctors did a biopsy and you guessed it, it was breast cancer in the earliest stage..a regular mammo would NOT have picked it up but since hers was, a semi radical was done, all margins clear and no lymph nodes in involved and she was given no follow on treatments, given the all clear...Oh the analysis of the tissue showed that this cancer she had was one of the most aggressive forms of breast cancer...
Long story short, I told my neighbor not to buy into that comment by her doctor...it is all about money not the need or safety now due to her age of 74 or whatever it is...
I got a real chuckle, kinda, out of your post.
It made me think of a short story I read years ago about the “culling” process. People were selected and sent to a carnival (hmmm) where the rides were all booby trapped. I can’t remember the name of the story. But they went out having a good time.
Of course, “The Lottery” by Shirley Jackson could also apply. Darker and not nearly as much fun as a cruise or carnival.
Medicare has decided that after the age of 80 they no longer take care of them like they sued to do.In the past 4 months I have heard of 5 people who had broken hips be refused surgery to set them because of their age.It is here and it is not nice.
Medicare has decided that after the age of 80 they no longer take care of them like they used to do.In the past 4 months I have heard of 5 people who had broken hips be refused surgery to set them because of their age.It is here and it is not nice.
That seems like a tricky one to treat. Glad to hear she’s doing well.
If you think it is necessary, pay for the test out of pocket. Shop around the imaging centers in your area and usually you will get a sizable discount for cash.
This has got to be the most idiotic waste of bandwith of the year so far. You thought of this all by yourself or the little beings from the hurling meteor told you?
Not getting a PET scan during chemo is by no means a death sentence. This type of hyperbole does not help.
ummm..I think it is satirical. :)
My dad is 85 and also going through chemo. I keep waiting for him to tell me his insurance company will no longer pay. I know it’s coming and I dread it.
One of the members of the car club I belong to has already received his death sentence. He needs a new pacemaker and was told by his insurance company that “an independent panel” has determined he can’t be covered by the insurance. He’s retired and doesn’t have the money to pay for it himself.
It was all I could do to keep from bursting in tears when he told me. The fear in his eyes was heartbreaking.
I hit “post” too quickly.
I meant to add that your post was brilliant. :-)
>>> You need to spend a whole lot more time reading about chemotherapy and what is really involved.
I know enough to know that lemons are worth a shot!
It’s not hyperbole. Last year he had pet scans with no problem. This year there is a problem.
Hmmmm.... Wonder what changed?
Yes, a pet scan will nt determine life or death. It will however determine future treatment.
A PET scan is not always the best or only test possible. CT scans with multiple dyes are equally effective. Your post hoc ergo propter hoc argument does not hold water.
It is hard for people to admit that their loved ones are getting older and often times getting sicker. He is being treated for cancer. He is 81years old. PET scan or no PET scan the problem could have happened. PET scans do not in and of themselves dictate treatment. All they do is capture a picture of what the current status is. Too many PET scans in a year is a bad thing. Perhaps the insurance company wants the doc to justify another PET scan. This is not unheard of. It helps keeps costs down and also allows the docs to document why they need what they need.
I would suggest that perhaps you need to spend time with the doc or nurse practitioner on the treatment team and find out more about the type of cancer, the type of treatment being done, and MOST IMPORTANTLY sit and talk with your loved one and find out what they want. Chemo can be a grueling experience. Often times patients will decide they have had enough and only want palliative treatments (yes even of chemo).
I would suggest that you need more information
I'm a cynic, I can't help it but it seems to me that people discover they have cancer and then they start doing the slash and burn, they feel terrible, they get better temporarily and then the cancer comes back with a vengeance and the patient dies.
Both my grandmother and mom died of breast cancer. My grandmother never treated hers at all and lived seven years.
I'm going to eventually die from something and I'm not going to ever do the chemo thing because I want as many good days as possible. Once they start on you with their chemo, etc., its downhill from then on.
From their study: "Biennial screening after age 69 years yielded some additional mortality reduction in all models, but overdiagnosis increased most substantially at older ages"
If it is true or not I do not know.
Death Panels have tremendous upside for the fedgov.
Every year sliced off the life expectancy is a tremendous financial boost for Medicare and SocSec.
Last year the pet scan was covered by insurance. This year it isn’t.
How can you not set a broken bone? that doesn’t make sense.
Government in charge of health care = rationing = human misery.
Dont you remember Hussian saying that instead of care, one will need to take more pain medications?
Not being covered by insurance does not equate to causing a further problem for your loved one. It is an illogical conclusion. As I stated before their are any number of reasons why problems crept in this year.
You really really do need to get more information
Exactly it does make sense but that is what they are doing to those over 80yo?
Exactly it does NOT make sense but that is what they are doing to those over 80yo?
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