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First Obamacare Death Panel Sentences 3,500 To Slow Death
2-14-13 | Retired Texas Vet

Posted on 02/14/2013 7:04:56 PM PST by RetiredTexasVet

The first Obamacare Death Panel, headed by Ezekiel Emanuel, issued death sentences to 3,500 patients. After evaluating their cases, the panel determined that the patients did not meet the minimum economic cost-benefit criteria and would be terminated within a week. Having a semblance of humanity, the ordered slow death would be painless and with dignity. All 3,500 patients will be loaded on a Carnival Cruise ship and set off on a 1 week cruise. Patients will be plied with liquor and drugs until they were in an absolute stupor. No toilet facilities or food will be provided as all the patients will be thrown over the side on the second day out. Emanuel stated that by throwing them over the side on the second day out it would save money and keep them under control as they would be expecting a full 7 day cruise before their demise.


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Health/Medicine; Humor; Science
KEYWORDS: abortion; deathpanels; foolishness; humor; obamacare; satire; zerocare

1 posted on 02/14/2013 7:05:02 PM PST by RetiredTexasVet
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To: RetiredTexasVet

My dad was sentenced to death today. 81 years old, going through chemo and the insurance company refuses to pay for the pet scan.

It has begun.


2 posted on 02/14/2013 7:09:30 PM PST by EQAndyBuzz (Got a problem? Nothing a drone strike can't fix.)
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To: EQAndyBuzz

I am so sorry for you and your father.


3 posted on 02/14/2013 7:12:22 PM PST by Aria ( 2008 & 2012 weren't elections - they were coup d'etats.)
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To: EQAndyBuzz

Not medically necessary when you’re 81 years old. Have to save money for an illegal to get boob implants.


4 posted on 02/14/2013 7:13:30 PM PST by fatnotlazy
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To: RetiredTexasVet

Brillant! Post of the Year!


5 posted on 02/14/2013 7:14:40 PM PST by TaMoDee ( Lassez les bons temps rouler dans les 2013! Geaux, Pack, Geaux!)
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To: RetiredTexasVet

Brillant! Post of the Year!


6 posted on 02/14/2013 7:14:53 PM PST by TaMoDee ( Lassez les bons temps rouler dans les 2013! Geaux, Pack, Geaux!)
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To: EQAndyBuzz
Beat them at their own game. That's what I intend to do. I have a friend who was diagnosed with ovarian cancer 6 years ago and has pretty much treated it herself and she's still alive while would most likely be dead if she had gone the traditional route.

Start reading about natural cures in the internet.

7 posted on 02/14/2013 7:19:21 PM PST by Conservativegreatgrandma (The perfect is the enemy of the good..............Voltaire)
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To: RetiredTexasVet

Wouldn’t it be more certainly lethal to force them to stay on the Carnival cruise ship?


8 posted on 02/14/2013 7:22:37 PM PST by Tau Food (Never give a sword to a man who can't dance.)
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To: Conservativegreatgrandma

>>> Start reading about natural cures in the internet.

I have read that if you freeze whole lemons, and grate them on your food, the food tastes a lot better AND the natural ingredients in lemon peel is 10,000 times more effective than Chemo without the side effects.


9 posted on 02/14/2013 7:24:00 PM PST by Safrguns
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To: Safrguns
I have read that if you freeze whole lemons, and grate them on your food, the food tastes a lot better AND the natural ingredients in lemon peel is 10,000 times more effective than Chemo without the side effects.

You need to spend a whole lot more time reading about chemotherapy and what is really involved.
10 posted on 02/14/2013 7:26:15 PM PST by aruanan
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To: EQAndyBuzz

Good Lord. PET scans aren’t that expensive, are they? It’s not major surgery. Any insurance co. could afford it.

I’m sorry about your father.


11 posted on 02/14/2013 7:28:38 PM PST by Tolerance Sucks Rocks (Happy New Year!)
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To: EQAndyBuzz

Check out the Huntsman Cancer Center in Utah. They’ve had a tradition of accepting patients with limited ability to pay.


12 posted on 02/14/2013 7:29:44 PM PST by MrsEmmaPeel (a government big enough to give you everything you want, is big enough to take everything you have)
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To: EQAndyBuzz

I’m so sorry.


13 posted on 02/14/2013 7:36:10 PM PST by Texas56
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To: Conservativegreatgrandma

what regimen did she follow?


14 posted on 02/14/2013 7:39:35 PM PST by stickywillie (say all the bad stuff you want about phedophiles, but they slow down in school zones.)
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To: EQAndyBuzz

Best wishes for your father and you.

My father had colon cancer. He is on a bag now. He skipped chemo because he’d read doctors say they wouldn’t use chemo.

He’s cancer free, now—much to the surprise of his doctor.

BUT, others benefit from chemo, seemingly.

Life’s a crapshoot—none of us get out of it alive.
Always remember...we have a better place to go, and I don’t think we’ll see Bath-House Barry there.


15 posted on 02/14/2013 7:46:17 PM PST by Mortrey (Impeach President Soros)
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To: fatnotlazy; EQAndyBuzz
Not medically necessary when you’re 81 years old. Have to save money for an illegal to get boob implants.

Oh. Wow.

From me, however, is no sarcasm. Mr. EQAndyBuzz, I'm so sad to hear about your Dad. God bless him and your family.

16 posted on 02/14/2013 7:47:23 PM PST by WXRGina (The Founding Fathers would be shooting by now.)
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To: EQAndyBuzz

I am sorry to hear about your Dad.


17 posted on 02/14/2013 8:00:26 PM PST by berdie
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To: RetiredTexasVet

My neighbor next door proudly announced her doctor told her she has had her last ever mamo. She seemed ok with it having been told that at her age 70ish, she and clear mammos over the years she would be fine.
I told her that is bunk. Another friend who is in her early 60s had an annual mammo and then the next year a digital and guess what it picked up? A “something” the size of a . yep just that big. Her doctors did a biopsy and you guessed it, it was breast cancer in the earliest stage..a regular mammo would NOT have picked it up but since hers was, a semi radical was done, all margins clear and no lymph nodes in involved and she was given no follow on treatments, given the all clear...Oh the analysis of the tissue showed that this cancer she had was one of the most aggressive forms of breast cancer...
Long story short, I told my neighbor not to buy into that comment by her doctor...it is all about money not the need or safety now due to her age of 74 or whatever it is...


18 posted on 02/14/2013 8:02:53 PM PST by celtic gal
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To: RetiredTexasVet

I got a real chuckle, kinda, out of your post.

It made me think of a short story I read years ago about the “culling” process. People were selected and sent to a carnival (hmmm) where the rides were all booby trapped. I can’t remember the name of the story. But they went out having a good time.

Of course, “The Lottery” by Shirley Jackson could also apply. Darker and not nearly as much fun as a cruise or carnival.


19 posted on 02/14/2013 8:07:16 PM PST by berdie
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks

Medicare has decided that after the age of 80 they no longer take care of them like they sued to do.In the past 4 months I have heard of 5 people who had broken hips be refused surgery to set them because of their age.It is here and it is not nice.


20 posted on 02/14/2013 9:05:10 PM PST by chris_bdba
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks

Medicare has decided that after the age of 80 they no longer take care of them like they used to do.In the past 4 months I have heard of 5 people who had broken hips be refused surgery to set them because of their age.It is here and it is not nice.


21 posted on 02/14/2013 9:05:23 PM PST by chris_bdba
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To: Conservativegreatgrandma

That seems like a tricky one to treat. Glad to hear she’s doing well.


22 posted on 02/14/2013 9:12:50 PM PST by Jane Long
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To: EQAndyBuzz

If you think it is necessary, pay for the test out of pocket. Shop around the imaging centers in your area and usually you will get a sizable discount for cash.


23 posted on 02/14/2013 9:16:41 PM PST by Kirkwood (Zombie Hunter)
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To: RetiredTexasVet

This has got to be the most idiotic waste of bandwith of the year so far. You thought of this all by yourself or the little beings from the hurling meteor told you?


24 posted on 02/14/2013 9:34:05 PM PST by PistolPaknMama
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To: EQAndyBuzz

Not getting a PET scan during chemo is by no means a death sentence. This type of hyperbole does not help.


25 posted on 02/14/2013 9:52:58 PM PST by Nifster
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To: PistolPaknMama

ummm..I think it is satirical. :)


26 posted on 02/14/2013 10:01:02 PM PST by berdie
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To: EQAndyBuzz; RetiredTexasVet

My dad is 85 and also going through chemo. I keep waiting for him to tell me his insurance company will no longer pay. I know it’s coming and I dread it.

One of the members of the car club I belong to has already received his death sentence. He needs a new pacemaker and was told by his insurance company that “an independent panel” has determined he can’t be covered by the insurance. He’s retired and doesn’t have the money to pay for it himself.

It was all I could do to keep from bursting in tears when he told me. The fear in his eyes was heartbreaking.


27 posted on 02/14/2013 10:14:39 PM PST by radu (May God watch over our troops and keep them safe)
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To: RetiredTexasVet

I hit “post” too quickly.
I meant to add that your post was brilliant. :-)


28 posted on 02/14/2013 10:18:33 PM PST by radu (May God watch over our troops and keep them safe)
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To: aruanan

>>> You need to spend a whole lot more time reading about chemotherapy and what is really involved.

I know enough to know that lemons are worth a shot!


29 posted on 02/15/2013 1:06:32 AM PST by Safrguns
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30 posted on 02/15/2013 1:47:37 AM PST by deks ("...the battle...liberty against the overreach of the federal government" Ken Cuccinelli)
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To: Nifster

It’s not hyperbole. Last year he had pet scans with no problem. This year there is a problem.

Hmmmm.... Wonder what changed?

Yes, a pet scan will nt determine life or death. It will however determine future treatment.


31 posted on 02/15/2013 9:56:36 AM PST by EQAndyBuzz (Got a problem? Nothing a drone strike can't fix.)
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To: EQAndyBuzz

A PET scan is not always the best or only test possible. CT scans with multiple dyes are equally effective. Your post hoc ergo propter hoc argument does not hold water.

It is hard for people to admit that their loved ones are getting older and often times getting sicker. He is being treated for cancer. He is 81years old. PET scan or no PET scan the problem could have happened. PET scans do not in and of themselves dictate treatment. All they do is capture a picture of what the current status is. Too many PET scans in a year is a bad thing. Perhaps the insurance company wants the doc to justify another PET scan. This is not unheard of. It helps keeps costs down and also allows the docs to document why they need what they need.

I would suggest that perhaps you need to spend time with the doc or nurse practitioner on the treatment team and find out more about the type of cancer, the type of treatment being done, and MOST IMPORTANTLY sit and talk with your loved one and find out what they want. Chemo can be a grueling experience. Often times patients will decide they have had enough and only want palliative treatments (yes even of chemo).

I would suggest that you need more information


32 posted on 02/15/2013 11:33:58 AM PST by Nifster
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To: stickywillie
I'm not really sure as she's done many different things but it's amazing that she's still alive and doing fairly well.

I'm a cynic, I can't help it but it seems to me that people discover they have cancer and then they start doing the slash and burn, they feel terrible, they get better temporarily and then the cancer comes back with a vengeance and the patient dies.

Both my grandmother and mom died of breast cancer. My grandmother never treated hers at all and lived seven years.

I'm going to eventually die from something and I'm not going to ever do the chemo thing because I want as many good days as possible. Once they start on you with their chemo, etc., its downhill from then on.

33 posted on 02/15/2013 1:00:19 PM PST by Conservativegreatgrandma (The perfect is the enemy of the good..............Voltaire)
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To: celtic gal
According to this study there is a lot of false positives after the age of 69. These doctors believe the harm out outweigh the benefits.

From their study: "Biennial screening after age 69 years yielded some additional mortality reduction in all models, but overdiagnosis increased most substantially at older ages"

Effects of Mammography Screening PDF

If it is true or not I do not know.

34 posted on 02/15/2013 2:25:18 PM PST by Steve Van Doorn (*in my best Eric Cartman voice* 'I love you, guys')
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To: radu

Death Panels have tremendous upside for the fedgov.

Every year sliced off the life expectancy is a tremendous financial boost for Medicare and SocSec.


35 posted on 02/15/2013 2:32:14 PM PST by nascarnation (Baraq's economic policy: trickle up poverty)
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To: Nifster

Last year the pet scan was covered by insurance. This year it isn’t.

Pretty simple.


36 posted on 02/15/2013 4:38:08 PM PST by EQAndyBuzz (Got a problem? Nothing a drone strike can't fix.)
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To: chris_bdba

How can you not set a broken bone? that doesn’t make sense.


37 posted on 02/15/2013 4:46:37 PM PST by visualops (artlife.us)
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To: chris_bdba

Government in charge of health care = rationing = human misery.


38 posted on 02/15/2013 6:42:47 PM PST by Tolerance Sucks Rocks (Happy New Year!)
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To: visualops

Dont you remember Hussian saying that instead of care, one will need to take more pain medications?


39 posted on 02/15/2013 6:49:42 PM PST by Chickensoup (200 million unarmed people killed in the 20th century by Leftist Totalitarian Fascists)
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To: EQAndyBuzz

Not being covered by insurance does not equate to causing a further problem for your loved one. It is an illogical conclusion. As I stated before their are any number of reasons why problems crept in this year.

You really really do need to get more information


40 posted on 02/15/2013 7:41:04 PM PST by Nifster
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To: visualops

Exactly it does make sense but that is what they are doing to those over 80yo?


41 posted on 03/03/2013 12:39:55 PM PST by chris_bdba
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To: visualops

Exactly it does NOT make sense but that is what they are doing to those over 80yo?


42 posted on 03/03/2013 12:40:21 PM PST by chris_bdba
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