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Egypt’s Cave Underworld Under Investigation – Egyptian archaeological team move in to find answers
Response Source ^ | 02 Dec 2009 | Andrew Collins

Posted on 12/03/2009 7:34:35 AM PST by BGHater

Cairo, December 2nd, 2009 – Egypt’s leading Egyptologist, Dr Zahi Hawass, has revealed that an excavation team under his charge are investigating an ancient tomb at the centre of claims regarding the alleged discovery of a cave underworld beneath the Pyramids of Giza.

In August British writer and explorer Andrew Collins announced that he had rediscovered the entrance to a previously unexplored cave system, entered via a mysterious tomb several hundred meters west of the Great Pyramid.

The cave entrance was found following clues left in the 200-year-old memoirs of British diplomat and explorer Henry Salt, who recorded how in 1817 he and Italian explorer Giovanni Caviglia had investigated cave “catacombs” at Giza for a distance of “several hundred yards” before coming across a “spacious” chamber.

This chamber linked to three others of equal size, from which went various labyrinthine passages, one of which the Italian later explored for a distance of “300 feet further”.

Dr Hawass, Secretary General for Egypt’s Supreme Council of Antiquities, has now confirmed that he has ordered an all-Egyptian team to explore the tomb at the centre of the controversy.


“We are clearing this system now, and it is a Late Period catacomb, like many others around Egypt,” he stated this week. “There is no mystery about it, and there is no connection with esoteric topics. We will publish our results as part of our normal process.”

While applauding Dr Hawass’s new interest in the site, Collins remains sceptical of his motives. “We knew in August that he had started clearing the tomb,” he said. “The excavations began almost immediately after knowledge of the cave discovery hit the internet.”

Collins is also unconvinced by Hawass’s explanation of what he calls the “catacomb”. “Does his use of the term ‘system’ now suggest that he has found and entered the caves, which he previously denied even existed? he asks. “My colleagues and I have examined photographic evidence of dynastic catacombs throughout Egypt, and these all appear to be carved by human hands.

“Those at Giza are natural, and penetrate the bedrock for many hundreds of metres, perhaps following the course of local geological faulting.”

Although Dr Hawass suggests there is no mystery surrounding the “catacomb”, Collins suspects that the caves extend beneath the Second Pyramid, where ancient tradition puts the legendary tomb of Tomb of Hermes, Egypt’s legendary founder.

“This has never been found,” he added, “So perhaps it is still there, awaiting discovery, somewhere close to where Salt and Caviglia reached nearly 200 years ago.”


Collins book Beneath the Pyramids, published last month, tells the story of his discovery of the natural cave system. He has also released a YouTube video showing his exploration of the caves in 2008.


TOPICS: Books/Literature; History; Science
KEYWORDS: andrewcollins; cave; davidrohl; egypt; giza; godsgravesglyphs; history; pyramid; rohl; science; zahihawass; zowiehawass
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Cave Complex Allegedly Found Under Giza Pyramids

1 posted on 12/03/2009 7:34:36 AM PST by BGHater
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To: LibWhacker; SunkenCiv

Collins, caves, & egypt, again. Egypt might be studying it.


2 posted on 12/03/2009 7:35:36 AM PST by BGHater (America is a Kakistocracy.)
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To: BGHater

Creepy. I actually hope they don’t find anything.


3 posted on 12/03/2009 7:39:35 AM PST by mamelukesabre
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To: BGHater
We're doomed!

4 posted on 12/03/2009 7:39:55 AM PST by evets (beer)
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To: BGHater

Edgar Cayce Team Finds Ancient Passageways – Underground Caves Beneath the Pyramids

http://www.edgarcayce.org/are/news.aspx?id=2052


5 posted on 12/03/2009 7:43:05 AM PST by SteveH (First they ignore you. Then they laugh at you. Then they fight you. Then you win.)
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To: hennie pennie

*bookmark*


6 posted on 12/03/2009 7:45:09 AM PST by hennie pennie
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To: BGHater

OK, *not* an article about ancient organized crime....


7 posted on 12/03/2009 7:52:46 AM PST by mikrofon (The Mustaffia)
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To: BGHater
"Cairo, December 2nd, 2009 – Egypt’s leading Egyptologist, Dr Zahi Hawass, has revealed that an excavation team under his charge are investigating an ancient tomb at the centre of claims regarding the alleged discovery of a cave underworld beneath the Pyramids of Giza."

Two points: (1) Hawass injects himself into everything that is Ancient Egyptian, and (2) The normal response is to deny everything since it has to be 'cleared' for Muslim orthodoxy before it is released to the public. Nothing is to be endorsed if it undermines the standard spin of the faith. There is always a 'guard' present at a dig, and that is only after permission to go ahead with the dig is given by the government. They will tell you that these precautions are to prevent theft etc., but the real reason is the preservation of the faith's tenets. Check into the games they play at the excavation of Avaris.

8 posted on 12/03/2009 8:03:27 AM PST by I am Richard Brandon
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To: BGHater

IMHO, Hawass is an A$$hat.

He deters any thinking that throws any hint of contrary thinking to the idea that the Egyptians were the FIRST great civilization.

As long as he is in control, he will slant all discoveries to his own ends.

(Academics hiding information or changing data? I have read about that somewhere...)


9 posted on 12/03/2009 8:07:53 AM PST by Dryman ("FREE THE LONG FORM!")
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To: BGHater
Thanks! Finding Hermes' tomb would be fantastic.

Hawass is a typical lying, duplicitous, muslim toad.

10 posted on 12/03/2009 10:53:38 AM PST by LibWhacker (America awake!)
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To: I am Richard Brandon

Maybe the muslims are scared of discovering Jewish artifacts in Egypt.


11 posted on 12/03/2009 12:14:34 PM PST by TexasRepublic (Socialism is the gospel of envy and the religion of thieves)
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Thanks BGHater. The Zahi Bandwagon rolled right over the guys who claimed to have found Cambyses' lost army -- toe Zowie's line, or no more working in Egypt. Collins, being an occult fiction writer (IMHO) doesn't have to worry about that, other than not getting into the country at all. :')

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12 posted on 12/03/2009 6:37:27 PM PST by SunkenCiv (https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/__Since Jan 3, 2004__Profile updated Monday, January 12, 2009)
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To: TexasRepublic

That’s what is in Avaris.


13 posted on 12/03/2009 7:02:56 PM PST by I am Richard Brandon
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To: I am Richard Brandon
Is this what you're referring to?

The place name Ramses (Hebrew: רַעְמְסֵס, Tiberian: [ɾaʕəmses]), sometimes Raamses or Ra'amses, occurs five times in the Tanakh: Genesis 47:11; Exodus 1:11, 12:37 and Numbers 33:3,5. The Septuagint equates this name with the Egyptian name Ramessu, hellenizing it as Hramessê (Greek: ραμεσση, [Ê°ramÉ›sːe]), whence Latin Ramesses, whence traditional English.

The location is synonymous with Goshen (Kessan in the Septuagint, Egyptian Pa-Kes, Greek Phacusa, modern Faqus), the land where Joseph and his descendants settled. According to the biblical account, the Israelites departed from Ramses in their exodus from Egypt (Exodus 12:37).

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Avaris#Biblical_Ramses

14 posted on 12/04/2009 11:38:59 AM PST by colorado tanker (What's it all about, Barrrrry? Is it just for the power, you live?)
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"Is this what you're referring to?"

Check into Bitek's work and Rohl's interpretation. It's a far stretch but an interesting read. Rohl postulates that Bitek has found and excavated Joseph's 'retirement villa' at Avaris and even found a statue of him. It is more believable than AGW.

15 posted on 12/04/2009 1:03:54 PM PST by I am Richard Brandon
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To: I am Richard Brandon
It is more believable than AGW.

LOL! You've got that right!

16 posted on 12/04/2009 1:46:47 PM PST by colorado tanker (What's it all about, Barrrrry? Is it just for the power, you live?)
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17 posted on 03/25/2016 1:00:42 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (Here's to the day the forensics people scrape what's left of Putin off the ceiling of his limo.)
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