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DNA tracks ancient Alaskan's descendants [ On Your Knees Cave man ]
ADN ^ | December 28th, 2008 | George Bryson

Posted on 12/30/2008 8:09:14 PM PST by SunkenCiv

An ancient mariner who lived and died 10,000 years ago on an island west of Ketchikan probably doesn't have any close relatives left in Alaska... But some of them migrated south and their descendents can be found today in coastal Native American populations in California, Mexico, Ecuador, Chile and Argentina. That's some of what scientists learned this summer by examining the DNA of Tlingit, Haida and Tsimshian Indians in Southeast Alaska. Working with elders at a cultural festival in Juneau, they interviewed more than 200 Native Alaskans who allowed them to swab tiny amounts of saliva from their cheeks to capture their mitochondrial DNA, the genetic material that's passed from mothers to children... None of the participants possessed DNA similar to that extracted from On Your Knees Cave man, the 10,300-year-old Alaskan whose remains were discovered 12 years ago in a shallow cavern on Prince of Wales Island... But some participants appear to be closely linked genetically to coastal Indian tribes in British Columbia and Washington state, in spite of anthropological studies that claim Tlingits were originally an Interior people, like the nearby Athabascans... Laboring two years as a graduate student, Kemp finally succeeded in extracting mitochondrial DNA from one of the caveman's teeth, the oldest DNA sample ever recovered in the Americas at the time. It clearly placed On Your Knees Cave man in the "haplogroup-D" branch of the human family tree... On closer inspection, however, Kemp found that On Your Knees Cave man belonged more specifically to the genetic sub-group D4H3, which may have shown up as recently as 20,000 years ago. Still, it's an exclusive group. Less than 2 percent of all Native Americans share that signature.

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TOPICS: History; Science; Travel
KEYWORDS: alaska; dna; emptydna; godsgravesglyphs; mtdna; onyourkneescaveman
subtitled "10,300 Years Old: Tests of Southeast Natives challenge prior anthropological results".
1 posted on 12/30/2008 8:09:15 PM PST by SunkenCiv
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2 posted on 12/30/2008 8:09:44 PM PST by SunkenCiv (https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/_______Profile finally updated Saturday, December 6, 2008 !!!)
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For about the 29,873rd time, all strange wanderings of Mitochondrial DNA samples are evidence for human continuation of the ancient chimp practice of tribal swapping of girls.


3 posted on 12/30/2008 8:19:11 PM PST by muawiyah
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To: SunkenCiv

I would love to have my DNA examined to see the migration habits of my ancestors.


4 posted on 12/30/2008 8:21:02 PM PST by mysterio
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To: SunkenCiv
Nice article.

That's some good additional information, but the real news is from a couple of years ago in Kemp's sequencing of the D4h3 haplotype from On Your Knees Cave. That partial skeleton was dated to 10,300 years ago.

And the D4h3 haplotype was found along the west coast of both North and South America, all the way to the southern tip.

That's the best evidence so far for the early coastal migration.

From my own work, it looks like a subdivision of the A1 haplotype also will tie in to that early coastal migration.

Exciting times to be doing archaeology!

5 posted on 12/30/2008 8:22:23 PM PST by Coyoteman (Religious belief does not constitute scientific evidence, nor does it convey scientific knowledge.)
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Thanks CM.


6 posted on 12/30/2008 8:24:14 PM PST by SunkenCiv (https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/_______Profile finally updated Saturday, December 6, 2008 !!!)
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7 posted on 12/30/2008 9:00:57 PM PST by martin_fierro (Rest in Peace, Marshall T.)
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National Geographic did run such a service as part of their study. You might still be able to do it, I did mine about 10 years ago. Cost was in $100 plus range.


8 posted on 12/30/2008 9:45:54 PM PST by pankot
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That can be done via the Genographic Project ... https://genographic.nationalgeographic.com/genographic/index.html


9 posted on 12/30/2008 9:59:33 PM PST by dodger
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And because common problems of human males (jealousy and venereal disease) would explain their virtual disappearance.
10 posted on 12/31/2008 4:19:40 AM PST by wolfcreek (I see miles and miles of Texas....let's keep it that way.)
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To: SunkenCiv

Great (bone and DNA) find, great post! Happy New Year!!


11 posted on 12/31/2008 6:19:43 AM PST by Pharmboy (BHO: making death and taxes yet MORE certain...)
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> That can be done via the Genographic Project ...

> https://genographic.nationalgeographic.com/genographic/index.html

Excellent advice! I second the recommendation for any man who wants to study the "deep ancestry" of his unbroken male-to-male line, or for any woman who wants to study the deep ancestry of her unbroken female-to-female line.

And after you receive your NGS results, be sure to transfer them (free of charge) to FTDNA (Family Tree DNA), which will allow you to use the same DNA information for genealogical applications -- in addition to your "deep ancestral" research.

(The NGS study is designed to tell something about where your ancestors lived thousands of years ago. On the other hand, the genealogical application of the same data via FTDNA will help you find families to whom you're related within the last few hundred years.)

12 posted on 12/31/2008 6:21:59 AM PST by Hawthorn
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Thanks for the link. I am considering doing this.


13 posted on 12/31/2008 9:12:58 AM PST by mysterio
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Will the MSM pick this story up? Since it involves Alaska, it’s a perfect set-up for them to slam Sarah Palin one more time.


14 posted on 12/31/2008 2:59:17 PM PST by Dilbert San Diego
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