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No burial for 10,000-year-old bones: U of California denies request for repatriation of remains
Nature 455, 1156-1157 ^ | Wednesday, October 29, 2008 | Rex Dalton

Posted on 11/03/2008 5:07:01 AM PST by SunkenCiv

In the latest twist in the tug-of-war between Native Americans and anthropologists, officials at the University of California have decided not to repatriate a pair of well-preserved skeletons that are nearly 10,000 years old.

Archaeology students unearthed the bones in 1976 near the clifftop home of the chancellor of the University of California, San Diego (UCSD). It may be possible to extract some of the oldest human DNA in North America from the exquisitely preserved remains, say researchers. But in the past two years the bones have become a political football over US$7-million plans to demolish and rebuild the house.

A group of 13 local bands, known as the Kumeyaay tribes, argued that the site was a sacred burial site, and that the bones found there should be repatriated to them. In March this year, UCSD dropped plans to knock down the house, opting instead for a renovation. But last week, University of California officials notified federal authorities that the bones could not be proved to be culturally affiliated with the Kumeyaay and thus would not be returned.

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TOPICS: History; Science; Travel
KEYWORDS: anthropology; archaeology; bones; ca; godsgravesglyphs; nativeamericans
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"No burial for 10,000-year-old bones

University of California denies request for repatriation of remains.

1 posted on 11/03/2008 5:07:01 AM PST by SunkenCiv
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2 posted on 11/03/2008 5:09:14 AM PST by SunkenCiv (https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/_______Profile finally updated Saturday, October 11, 2008 !!!)
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Whaaat?!? "Failure to repatriate these remains is offensive to my Moslem faith! Responsibility for this travesty can be laid on George Bush, and would never have happened under an Obama administration!"

3 posted on 11/03/2008 5:11:00 AM PST by SunkenCiv (https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/_______Profile finally updated Saturday, October 11, 2008 !!!)
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4 posted on 11/03/2008 5:12:14 AM PST by SunkenCiv (https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/_______Profile finally updated Saturday, October 11, 2008 !!!)
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To: SunkenCiv

I’m sure the owners don’t mind.


5 posted on 11/03/2008 5:17:57 AM PST by org.whodat ( "the Whipped Dog Party" , what was formally the republicans.)
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To: martin_fierro
It may be possible to extract some of the oldest human DNA in North America from the exquisitely preserved remains

6 posted on 11/03/2008 5:18:27 AM PST by SunkenCiv (https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/_______Profile finally updated Saturday, October 11, 2008 !!!)
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To: SunkenCiv

this is just about protecting casinos.

If it is show there is NO TRULY NATIVE society here in the continent then we may be able to get away from this tribal stuff.


7 posted on 11/03/2008 5:18:28 AM PST by longtermmemmory (VOTE! http://www.senate.gov and http://www.house.gov)
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To: org.whodat

You never saw Poltergeist, did you?


8 posted on 11/03/2008 5:20:36 AM PST by Travis T. OJustice (Change is not a destination, just as hope is not a strategy.)
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To: org.whodat
Find out who they were, then act appropriately. What's so tough about that?

(Besides political correctness and scientific inertia:(The desire to retain current paradigms in spite of any evidence to the contrary expressed as a suppression of any possible evidence to the contrary of the current paradigms).

9 posted on 11/03/2008 5:28:26 AM PST by Smokin' Joe (How often God must weep at humans' folly.)
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To: Smokin' Joe

Probably wondering Swedes.


10 posted on 11/03/2008 5:31:04 AM PST by Eric in the Ozarks
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To: longtermmemmory

The Indians ancestors got here during the Pleistocene. Their cultures formed in the Americas. If that doesn’t make someone truly native, I don’t know what would. There is no cultural affiliation between current tribes and these burials and unless the bones are tested they can’t show if there is a direct biological connection. So according to current law, finders-keepers.


11 posted on 11/03/2008 5:31:17 AM PST by Varda
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To: Smokin' Joe
Find out who they were, then act appropriately. What's so tough about that?

Ok, you have convinced me, run an add in the local newspaper asking people who are close kind to come forward with family pictures and birth records. Hee! Hee!

12 posted on 11/03/2008 5:32:08 AM PST by org.whodat ( "the Whipped Dog Party" , what was formally the republicans.)
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To: SunkenCiv
As it becomes clear that North America was first settled from Europe (1), the "Native Americans" are going nuts trying to rebury all of the evidence.

(1) The picture evolving is that Western Europeans hugged the bottom of the glacial shelf in small reed boats, sleeping on the ice and hunting water mammals and fishing, until they reached eastern Canada. "Native Americans" are desperate to hide this.

13 posted on 11/03/2008 5:38:37 AM PST by pabianice (Inexplicable and infuriating.)
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To: org.whodat
Ok, you have convinced me, run an add in the local newspaper asking people who are close kind to come forward with family pictures and birth records. Hee! Hee!

Piece of cake. Just allege they had an anti-Obama stone tablet in there and let the MSM do the rest. Full dossier in no time.

14 posted on 11/03/2008 5:46:08 AM PST by Smokin' Joe (How often God must weep at humans' folly.)
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To: SunkenCiv

Good.

Better anaylze those bones quickly.

If the idiot Obama gets in, NO human remains will be subject for study in North America (except maybe those of aborted babies).


15 posted on 11/03/2008 6:18:00 AM PST by ZULU (Non nobis, non nobis Domine, sed nomini tuo da gloriam. God, guts and guns made America great.)
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To: SunkenCiv

10,000 years old — why aren’t they going into a display case?


16 posted on 11/03/2008 7:04:31 AM PST by BenLurkin
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To: pabianice

I’m not too sure about that — I think the motivation is pretty obviously to create bogus facts on the ground in order to create a cultural identity lost in the past few centuries, as a basis for creating a political identity to establish autonomous regions which don’t answer to state authorities.


17 posted on 11/03/2008 7:18:55 AM PST by SunkenCiv (https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/_______Profile finally updated Saturday, October 11, 2008 !!!)
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To: Varda
There is no cultural affiliation between current tribes and these burials and unless the bones are tested they can't show if there is a direct biological connection. So according to current law, finders-keepers.
...unless, using NAGPRA, which is a federal statute overriding state laws, the testing can be stopped before the decision about affiliation is made. That's exactly what happened here, but this time the "tribe" involved didn't win the case anyway.
18 posted on 11/03/2008 7:21:07 AM PST by SunkenCiv (https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/_______Profile finally updated Saturday, October 11, 2008 !!!)
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To: ZULU

Sure they will — but they’ll be the remains of white folks. It’s part of the Reparations movement.


19 posted on 11/03/2008 7:22:43 AM PST by SunkenCiv (https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/_______Profile finally updated Saturday, October 11, 2008 !!!)
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To: org.whodat; Smokin' Joe

LOL!


20 posted on 11/03/2008 7:22:47 AM PST by SunkenCiv (https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/_______Profile finally updated Saturday, October 11, 2008 !!!)
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