Free Republic
Browse · Search
General/Chat
Topics · Post Article

Skip to comments.

Meditate on It: Could ancient campfire rituals have separated us from Neanderthals?
Smithsonian.com ^ | February 01, 2007 | Eric Jaffe

Posted on 07/25/2008 7:52:16 PM PDT by SunkenCiv

A couple hundred-thousand years ago -- sometime after our hominid ancestors had controlled fire, but long before they were telling ghost stories -- early humans huddled around campfires to meditate and partake in shamanistic rituals. Today, when we slow down for a yellow light, recognize a dollar sign or do anything, really, that involves working memory, we have these ancient brainstorming sessions to thank. That's the somewhat controversial connection psychologist Matt J. Rossano is making. Ritualistic gatherings sharpened mental focus, he argues. Over time, this focus strengthened the mind's ability to connect symbols and meanings, eventually causing gene mutations that favored the enhanced memory we now possess... Eventually these connections led to complex forms of symbolism, which begin to show up in the archaeological record around 50,000 years ago. Archaeologists have found cave paintings from this time that display sophisticated symbolism, such as a lion-headed man that presumably infers some personality trait.

(Excerpt) Read more at smithsonianmag.com ...


TOPICS: History; Science; Travel
KEYWORDS: godsgravesglyphs
Navigation: use the links below to view more comments.
first 1-2021-28 next last
The Neandertal Enigma
by James Shreeve
Frayer's own reading of the record reveals a number of overlooked traits that clearly and specifically link the Neandertals to the Cro-Magnons. One such trait is the shape of the opening of the nerve canal in the lower jaw, a spot where dentists often give a pain-blocking injection. In many Neandertal, the upper portion of the opening is covered by a broad bony ridge, a curious feature also carried by a significant number of Cro-Magnons. But none of the alleged 'ancestors of us all' fossils from Africa have it, and it is extremely rare in modern people outside Europe." [pp 126-127]

1 posted on 07/25/2008 7:52:16 PM PDT by SunkenCiv
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | View Replies]

To: Renfield; blam; StayAt HomeMother; Ernest_at_the_Beach; 1ofmanyfree; 21twelve; 24Karet; ...

· join list or digest · view topics · view or post blog · bookmark · post a topic ·

 
Gods
Graves
Glyphs
Thanks Renfield.

To all -- please ping me to other topics which are appropriate for the GGG list.
GGG managers are Blam, StayAt HomeMother, and Ernest_at_the_Beach
 

· Google · Archaeologica · ArchaeoBlog · Archaeology magazine · Biblical Archaeology Society ·
· Mirabilis · Texas AM Anthropology News · Yahoo Anthro & Archaeo ·
· History or Science & Nature Podcasts · Excerpt, or Link only? · cgk's list of ping lists ·


2 posted on 07/25/2008 7:53:12 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/_________________________Profile updated Friday, May 30, 2008)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: SunkenCiv

Parents meditate, grow parts of their brains, and pass on the improvements to their children? Sounds like Lamarckism to me.


3 posted on 07/25/2008 7:56:58 PM PDT by rightwingcrazy
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: SunkenCiv
Ritualistic gatherings sharpened mental focus...
Over time, this focus strengthened the mind's ability to connect symbols and meanings...


4 posted on 07/25/2008 8:05:43 PM PDT by HoosierHawk
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

‘Perception’ gene tracked humanity’s evolution, scientists say
Eurekalert | 14-Nov-2005 | David Bricker
Posted on 11/15/2005 8:25:44 AM PST by balrog666
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1522448/posts

‘Perception’ gene tracked humanity’s evolution, scientists say
EurekAlert (AAAS) | 14 November 2005 | David Bricker and Matthew Hahn
Posted on 11/15/2005 8:35:27 AM PST by PatrickHenry
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1522454/posts


5 posted on 07/25/2008 8:21:50 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/_________________________Profile updated Friday, May 30, 2008)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: SunkenCiv
When it comes to campfire stories, it's the invention of the flashlight separates us from Neanderthals


6 posted on 07/25/2008 8:36:38 PM PDT by vamoose
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: vamoose

Pass the smores.


7 posted on 07/25/2008 8:38:58 PM PDT by rdl6989 ( I'm a carbon based human being, a Carbonated-American)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 6 | View Replies]

To: rightwingcrazy
"Parents meditate, grow parts of their brains, and pass on the improvements to their children? Sounds like Lamarckism to me."

I think the author means that rituals involving meditation and trance gave rise to enhanced memory skills, which, in turn, altered the routines of early man in a way that made the use of the ability to understand symbols. Once such behavior became established, however it did, those offspring that excelled in symbol recognition were favored by natural selection.

8 posted on 07/25/2008 8:47:16 PM PDT by PUGACHEV
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 3 | View Replies]

To: SunkenCiv

> Ritualistic gatherings sharpened mental focus, he argues. Over time, this focus strengthened the mind’s ability to connect symbols and meanings, eventually causing gene mutations that favored the enhanced memory we now possess

Mediation causing germline mutations?


9 posted on 07/25/2008 8:49:46 PM PDT by bluejay
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: PUGACHEV
I think some environmental catastrophe happened to a group somewhere along the line where they had to live together in tight quarters for long periods of time, or die. Something like caves. They were forced to become more calm and inward with each other, or none would survive. The trait may have been developed there.

Just a thought.

10 posted on 07/25/2008 9:02:27 PM PDT by Finny ("Raise hell. Vote smart." -- Ted Nugent)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 8 | View Replies]

To: vamoose

That theory should be run through a *battery* of tests. /rimshot


11 posted on 07/25/2008 9:26:25 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/_________________________Profile updated Friday, May 30, 2008)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 6 | View Replies]

To: bluejay

Between people lighting their farts on the flames, kids giggling when they char-broil animal feces on a stick, and prehistoric stand-up comics working the first “night clubs”, I don’t think anyone had time to “meditate”. ;’)


12 posted on 07/25/2008 9:28:26 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/_________________________Profile updated Friday, May 30, 2008)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 9 | View Replies]

To: SunkenCiv
Eventually these connections led to complex forms of symbolism,...

Just the opposite I would say. Sitting and gazing into the campfire opened the space in the mind to let go of symbols. That is how formal meditation works. Although many types of meditation use objects or visualized objects, some very complex, to focus on it is the same object with sustained attention over and over again. The ultimate result of that technique is to break the habit of seeing things conceptually. IOWs as symbols instead of just as they are.

13 posted on 07/25/2008 9:35:38 PM PDT by TigersEye (Drill or get off the Hill. ... call Nancy Pelosi @ 202 - 225 - 0100)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: TigersEye

Excellent.


14 posted on 07/25/2008 9:55:47 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/_________________________Profile updated Friday, May 30, 2008)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 13 | View Replies]

To: rightwingcrazy

Yes. Lysenko lives!


15 posted on 07/25/2008 10:14:11 PM PDT by pankot
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 3 | View Replies]

To: SunkenCiv
There are some interesting ideas here but I think there are numerous flaws in this particular theory. He mixes the ideas of meditation and shamanism. I'd be the first to recognize that shamans use meditative and/or trance states but there is a big difference between someone skilled in doing that from long hours of isolated practice and the hypnotic type of state imparted to the groveling masses who show up for the grand performance. I am not demeaning the purpose or results that might occur for the participants but only the shamans are really doing any serious work with their minds. Only that tiny percentage of the population is doing anything significant towards some pressured genetic change.

He also equates exercising focused attention with increasing memory. I don't know enough about the brain to know if the same part of the brain handles both functions but I do know enough about meditation to know that it isn't about straining to remember or to cognize symbolic relationships. So he may be onto something but I'm confused by his way of putting it at the least.

Finally, I think your description of the campfire scene is hammer, nail, head. There ain't no good meditatin' with caverats running around screaming and cavehos grousing about the day's catch or provocatively lifting their wooly mammoth pelts. Or cavebros bragging about their atlatl heft.

16 posted on 07/25/2008 10:40:35 PM PDT by TigersEye (Drill or get off the Hill. ... call Nancy Pelosi @ 202 - 225 - 0100)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 14 | View Replies]

To: SunkenCiv

The Neanderthals refused to sing “Kumbaya,” and it was their undoing.


17 posted on 07/25/2008 11:39:20 PM PDT by kaehurowing
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: SunkenCiv
eventually causing gene mutations

Did this fellow study under that great agronomist, Trofim Lysenko?

18 posted on 07/26/2008 5:10:48 AM PDT by ThanhPhero (di hanh huong den La Vang)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: SunkenCiv

camp fires—>mediation—>genetic mutations

Sounds good, I’m sold! Put it in the next set of textbooks, ASAP!


19 posted on 07/26/2008 5:16:01 AM PDT by Future Snake Eater (How 'bout a magic trick? I'm gonna make this pencil disappear...Ta-dah!)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: SunkenCiv

Mel Brooks was on to something?


20 posted on 07/26/2008 5:15:07 PM PDT by RightOnTheLeftCoast ([Fred Thompson/Clarence Thomas 2008!])
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]


Navigation: use the links below to view more comments.
first 1-2021-28 next last

Disclaimer: Opinions posted on Free Republic are those of the individual posters and do not necessarily represent the opinion of Free Republic or its management. All materials posted herein are protected by copyright law and the exemption for fair use of copyrighted works.

Free Republic
Browse · Search
General/Chat
Topics · Post Article

FreeRepublic, LLC, PO BOX 9771, FRESNO, CA 93794
FreeRepublic.com is powered by software copyright 2000-2008 John Robinson