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Quantum theory is wrong.
A word in your ear ^
| March 7th 2013
| Mark
Posted on 03/07/2013 5:44:05 AM PST by ABrit
Particles do not retain "information", don't have "knowledge". It is not that the act of observation that alters reality. In fact the physical nature of the "observation" small though it may be is sufficient to alter the metrics of sub atomic particles.
(Excerpt) Read more at awordinyourear.blogspot.co.uk ...
TOPICS: Astronomy; Education; Reference; Science; Weird Stuff
KEYWORDS: quantum; quantummechanics; stringtheory; theory
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posted on
03/07/2013 5:44:10 AM PST
by
ABrit
To: ABrit
It looks like the blog author forgot to put down his equations and controlled experiments that prove his point.
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posted on
03/07/2013 5:49:11 AM PST
by
mnehring
To: ABrit
Indeed, the words of the Copenhagen group are hard to understand. But - the math is not. And the math works...to better than one part in literally billions.
So, please back up your “interpretations” with math.
Words alone are worth about as much as emanations of your typical politician.
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posted on
03/07/2013 5:51:51 AM PST
by
Da Coyote
To: ABrit
He’s an idiot.
See Wheeler’s delayed choice experiment.
Quantum mechanics is very strange but has been confirmed in many experiments.
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posted on
03/07/2013 5:53:59 AM PST
by
Bobalu
(It is not obama we are fighting, it is the media.)
To: ABrit
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posted on
03/07/2013 5:56:00 AM PST
by
Heartlander
(Scientists animated by the purpose of proving that they are purposeless are interesting to study)
To: ABrit
For someone making such a claim, he didn’t really say much, or go into much detail.
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posted on
03/07/2013 6:00:41 AM PST
by
ZX12R
To: ABrit
Observation does change the thing being observed. Put a camera on a crowd snd see how many start saying , “Hi Mom!”, even if Mom has been gone for years. And a camera will convince many they actually have enough talent to perform against the obvious proof they do not.
The math: Camera + Idiots = Buffoonery (C+I=B>)
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posted on
03/07/2013 6:03:31 AM PST
by
count-your-change
(you don't have to be brilliant, not being stupid is enough)
To: ABrit
Let's start with the basics, what mathematical errors has the author found with the Schrodinger's Equation?
After the author can explain this, we can get into the real difficult stuff.
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posted on
03/07/2013 6:03:31 AM PST
by
mnehring
To: ABrit
Too short, not enough information, but essentially right.
To: ABrit
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posted on
03/07/2013 6:12:34 AM PST
by
Fighting Irish
("I prefer the tumult of liberty to the quiet of servitude." Thomas Jefferson)
To: ABrit
I’m still holding out for a “hidden variables” type of explanation, to understand the oddities of quantum behavior.
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posted on
03/07/2013 6:15:03 AM PST
by
ZX12R
To: ABrit
I say nothing is real. Everything is an illusion; a projection of the mind. (Read: Ego) Math to back it up? Don’t need that pesky mathematics when one knows. :-)
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posted on
03/07/2013 6:16:08 AM PST
by
mosaicwolf
(Strength and Honor)
To: mnehring
His "out" is that he says it would take instruments far in advanced of today's technology to be able to prove his point - which means he cannot, or at least has not, been able to prove his point mathematically. The essence of his problem may lie in his own self-contradictory statements, to wit,
"It is not that the act of observation that alters reality. In fact the physical nature of the "observation" small though it may be is sufficient to alter the metrics of sub atomic particles."
If someone can point out the practical difference between a physical act of observation and the fact that an observation has physical impact, I would appreciate it.
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posted on
03/07/2013 6:25:26 AM PST
by
Pecos
(If more sane people carried guns, fewer crazies would get off a second shot.)
To: Fighting Irish
That cat just agrees because he's scheduled to be the next one in the box to test quantum superposition.
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posted on
03/07/2013 6:30:02 AM PST
by
KarlInOhio
(Choose one: the yellow and black flag of the Tea Party or the white flag of the Republican Party.)
To: mosaicwolf
I say nothing is real.
In a way, that is essentially what the copenhagen interpretation says. That there is no deep reality, at least not one that human beings could understand. Everything exists on a cloud of potentials, which is not a real thing.
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posted on
03/07/2013 6:31:17 AM PST
by
ZX12R
To: KarlInOhio
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posted on
03/07/2013 6:32:09 AM PST
by
mnehring
To: mnehring
I don’t know anything about Schrdinger’s equation...but thatnks to Sheldon and Penny I do know about Schrodinger’s cat!
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posted on
03/07/2013 6:33:18 AM PST
by
pgkdan
( "Those who hammer their guns into plows will plow for those who do not." ~Thomas Jefferson)
To: pgkdan
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posted on
03/07/2013 6:46:05 AM PST
by
MotorCityBuck
( Keep the change, you filthy animal! ,)
To: Pecos
"It is not that the act of observation that alters reality. In fact the physical nature of the "observation" small though it may be is sufficient to alter the metrics of sub atomic particles."
"...If someone can point out the practical difference between a physical act of observation and the fact that an observation has physical impact, I would appreciate it..."
Here is what I think he is trying to "split hairs" about if you will. Let's say I want to look at something with my eyes. Well, I am going to have to bounce a photon off it, so it can reflect into my eye. That is the "physical act".
Now, what I think he is trying to get at is the "metaphysical" aspect of "understanding" the observation.
It really is just the old "If a tree falls in the forest, and nobody is around to hear it, does it make a sound?" kind of thing.
I am NOT supporting his position, just trying to make sense of it. I am really more of an experiment and math guy.
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posted on
03/07/2013 7:07:37 AM PST
by
Rebel_Ace
(Tags?!? Tags?!? We don' neeeed no stinkin' Tags!)
To: mnehring
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posted on
03/07/2013 7:09:21 AM PST
by
dirtboy
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