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Fat Good, Carbs Bad
maggiesfarm ^ | Gary Taubes

Posted on 12/29/2012 12:25:29 PM PST by virgil283

"I've been preaching this since long before Gary Taubes' books came out. That's because I have a colleague who studies the physiology of insulin. From what I know, Taubes is right. A quote re Dietary Incorrectness at Powerline:...Taubes disputes the connection between dietary fat and high cholesterol. He challenges the thesis that dietary fat is detrimental to our health. He rejects a balanced diet. He advocates a high-fat diet. He opposes dieting. He doesn’t object to exercise, but he asserts that it makes you hungry. It’s almost funny. He is the dietary equivalent of politically incorrect.

(Excerpt) Read more at maggiesfarm.anotherdotcom.com ...


TOPICS: Food; Health/Medicine
KEYWORDS: atkins; fitorfat; garytaubes; health; lowcarb; nourishingtraditions; paleodiet; southbeach
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This is the only diet that has ever worked for me...and I wasn't hungry while on it. there seems to be different types of metabolism among people, so if counting calories does't work for you maybe you are this type And it also works that afterward limiting carbs keeps the weight from coming back. A friend calls it the White Diet : eat nothing white : no bread, pasta, sugar, and so on...
1 posted on 12/29/2012 12:25:35 PM PST by virgil283
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To: virgil283

http://www.amazon.com/Why-We-Get-Fat-About/dp/0307474259/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1356812347&sr=8-1&keywords=Gary+Taubes%27


2 posted on 12/29/2012 12:27:25 PM PST by virgil283 ( "He is proud, knowing nothing, but doting about questions and strifes of words, whereof cometh envy)
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To: virgil283

Dr Atkins was onto this years ago.


3 posted on 12/29/2012 12:28:32 PM PST by dfwgator
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To: virgil283
eat nothing white

Except egg whites, of course.

4 posted on 12/29/2012 12:29:23 PM PST by dfwgator
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To: virgil283

>> A friend calls it the White Diet : eat nothing white

That’s racist. It should be called “the diet of color”.


5 posted on 12/29/2012 12:30:18 PM PST by Nervous Tick (Without GOD, men get what they deserve.)
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To: virgil283

Does this include rice ? Because I eat white rice about a quarter of the time, complements of a healthy Chinese takeout menu. And my b/f is Japanese besides, the skinniest, longest lived people alive.


6 posted on 12/29/2012 12:35:35 PM PST by erlayman
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To: virgil283
Here is an e-book that is on the same topic and easy to understand and inexpensive.

Lose weight with LCHF

7 posted on 12/29/2012 12:42:05 PM PST by oldbrowser (They are marxists, don't call them democrats)
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ive been successfully doing atkins/hamptons eating for more than twenty years...i watch my carbs and excercise ....works for me....


8 posted on 12/29/2012 12:43:56 PM PST by raygunfan
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To: dfwgator

So were cavemen (if you believe in that sort of thing). The modern Starch-based diet is a man-made construct, and our bodies are not all equipped to handle the blood suger bombs that starch deploys into our bloodstreams at every meal. Type 2 diabetics should eliminate starch from their diets.


9 posted on 12/29/2012 12:44:12 PM PST by Adams (Fight on!)
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To: erlayman
“there seems to be different types of metabolism among people,”-—to lose weight limit yourself to less than 50g carbs a day...less than 20g is better but more restrictive. Happily the weight comes off faster at less than 20g carbs so it is for only a short period of time... so that would count out rice..ha
10 posted on 12/29/2012 12:46:00 PM PST by virgil283 ( "He is proud, knowing nothing, but doting about questions and strifes of words, whereof cometh envy)
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To: AdmSmith; AnonymousConservative; Berosus; bigheadfred; Bockscar; ColdOne; Convert from ECUSA; ...

Atkins works, and I’m eating more veggies than I used to, just that they’re different ones, called Foundation Vegetables (radishes, cukes, celery), just no bread, so, open-faced (and open-footed) bacon cheeseburgers, steak, chicken...

Thanks virgil283.


11 posted on 12/29/2012 12:53:44 PM PST by SunkenCiv (Romney would have been worse, if you're a dumb ass.)
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To: virgil283

Cut out wheat. I discovered that I have a mild wheat allergy & cut it out a couple of months ago. Decades old issues cleared up right away, and although I’m normal-sized I lost weight for the first time since I was a teenageer.


12 posted on 12/29/2012 1:00:55 PM PST by skeeter
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To: sauropod

read


13 posted on 12/29/2012 1:06:21 PM PST by sauropod (I will not comply)
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To: dfwgator

And except chocolate cake, and chocolate chip cookies, since they’re mostly brown and dark brown. As for egg whites, they’re really clear, that is until you cook them.


14 posted on 12/29/2012 1:11:30 PM PST by SkyDancer (Live your life in such a way that the Westboro church will want to picket your funeral.)
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To: virgil283

Thank you! Calories in calories out concept is a joke. So is Big Govs food pyramid. I’m pretty sure the corn and grain lobby paid for that once upon a time.


15 posted on 12/29/2012 1:23:38 PM PST by goodwithagun (My gun has killed fewer people than Ted Kennedy's car.)
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To: virgil283

This video is an hour and a half long, but totally worth the watch!


16 posted on 12/29/2012 1:27:11 PM PST by goodwithagun (My gun has killed fewer people than Ted Kennedy's car.)
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To: erlayman
Natives of El Salvador who live in the United States are the longest lived people in the US ~ lawyers are second!

The El Salvadorans seem to be of substantial Japanese background probably having been brought here direct from Japan in the debris fields of numerous tsunamis over the millenia.

So, first of all it's genes ~ and secondly, it's guile!

Noteworthy ~ Salvadorans like to eat bean/rice sandwiches ~ on white bread. Lawyers prefer tunafish and mayo on rye.

17 posted on 12/29/2012 1:28:47 PM PST by muawiyah
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To: goodwithagun

Guess I should include the video: http://m.youtube.com/index?&desktop_uri=%2F#/watch?v=dBnniua6-oM


18 posted on 12/29/2012 1:32:46 PM PST by goodwithagun (My gun has killed fewer people than Ted Kennedy's car.)
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To: skeeter
BTW, it's not exactly an allergy ~ has to do with genes ~ you have the originals ~ folks without a problem eating wheat are the mutants!

As we age those genes get to take over and protect us from loaves of bread, beer, and soy sauce.

Also makes shopping much easier ~ 10 minutes tops at any market on Earth!

Now, the bad news ~ you'll notice your sensitivity to wheat becoming more extreme the less of it you eat. We all eventually reach the point of worrying about where was that knifeblade, last, and recoiling in horror upon learning somebody cooked pancakes on the part of the grill our fried egg is now.

19 posted on 12/29/2012 1:33:46 PM PST by muawiyah
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To: virgil283

I’m Russian. It’s in the genes. My whole family lived into their 90’s.


20 posted on 12/29/2012 1:37:24 PM PST by Sacajaweau
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To: Sacajaweau
I’m Russian. It’s in the genes. My whole family lived into their 90’s.

Must have been the yogurt.


21 posted on 12/29/2012 1:50:22 PM PST by dfwgator
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To: muawiyah

LOL, yep now that my diet issues are solved my new goal is to avoid becoming a food fanatic and insufferable bore to family and relations.


22 posted on 12/29/2012 1:55:16 PM PST by skeeter
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To: goodwithagun

what video? where is it?


23 posted on 12/29/2012 1:58:04 PM PST by latina4dubya ( self-proclaimed tequila snob)
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To: skeeter
You'll get over that worry in about 3 months ~ avoiding wheat, barley (malt), and rye in this society is a 24/7 concern.

You got that malt part, right? I the label doesn't say 'distilled vinegar' you got a problem.

24 posted on 12/29/2012 1:59:04 PM PST by muawiyah
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To: goodwithagun

never mind! i see you have provided a link... thank you!


25 posted on 12/29/2012 1:59:19 PM PST by latina4dubya ( self-proclaimed tequila snob)
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To: muawiyah
No, but I'm finding out every day what I can and cannot consume.

That goes for alcohols as well.

26 posted on 12/29/2012 2:06:49 PM PST by skeeter
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To: virgil283

I will cut back because refining the wheat bran does additional nutritional damage but at least the vast majority of refined grains, especially rice, are enriched with B vitamins and iron are added back after processing.


27 posted on 12/29/2012 2:11:31 PM PST by erlayman
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To: erlayman

Rice and pasta are terrible.


28 posted on 12/29/2012 2:27:26 PM PST by the OlLine Rebel (Common sense is an uncommon virtue./Technological progress cannot be legislated.)
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To: dfwgator

I remember that ad from around 1978:

“Eighty-nine year old Bagrat Topagua liked Dannon yogurt so much, he ate two cups. This pleased his mother very much (she pats him on the head).”

Anyway, Atkins works, low-to-no-carbs works, not PC, but how it works.


29 posted on 12/29/2012 2:37:37 PM PST by elcid1970 ("The Second Amendment is more important than Islam.")
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To: the OlLine Rebel

Quinoa and brown rice pastas are fine ~ but very expensive ~ which cuts back on the intake like you wouldn’t believe.


30 posted on 12/29/2012 2:38:26 PM PST by muawiyah
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To: erlayman
And my b/f is Japanese besides, the skinniest, longest lived people alive.

Body By Rice

31 posted on 12/29/2012 2:42:22 PM PST by Washi (Socialism is Slavery)
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To: muawiyah

Are they below 20g serving? If not they are just bad.


32 posted on 12/29/2012 2:43:36 PM PST by the OlLine Rebel (Common sense is an uncommon virtue./Technological progress cannot be legislated.)
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To: muawiyah

Are they below 20g serving? If not they are just bad.


33 posted on 12/29/2012 2:43:36 PM PST by the OlLine Rebel (Common sense is an uncommon virtue./Technological progress cannot be legislated.)
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To: muawiyah

Are they below 20g serving? If not they are just bad.


34 posted on 12/29/2012 2:43:36 PM PST by the OlLine Rebel (Common sense is an uncommon virtue./Technological progress cannot be legislated.)
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To: muawiyah

Are they below 20g serving? If not they are just bad.


35 posted on 12/29/2012 2:43:36 PM PST by the OlLine Rebel (Common sense is an uncommon virtue./Technological progress cannot be legislated.)
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To: the OlLine Rebel

It depends I guess. In terms of your blood sugar, a small plate of white pasta is better than a large plate of whole wheat pasta. And replacing a refined grain with a moderate whole grain alternative offers a slight nutritional upgrade but nowhere near as big an upgrade as replacing it with an extra serving of vegetables, which are the most nutrient-dense foods out there. So I eat a green salad everyday for lunch, snack on bananas, apples and pineapples and finish the day off with veggies and chicken over rice. :)


36 posted on 12/29/2012 2:43:56 PM PST by erlayman
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To: muawiyah

Are they below 20g serving? If not they are just bad.


37 posted on 12/29/2012 2:43:56 PM PST by the OlLine Rebel (Common sense is an uncommon virtue./Technological progress cannot be legislated.)
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To: virgil283

Whole wheat bread is nearly as bad as white bread. Might as well eat a candy bar.


38 posted on 12/29/2012 2:46:22 PM PST by Tolerance Sucks Rocks (Merry Christmas!)
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To: skeeter; virgil283

I concur. Cutting out wheat cleared up my allergies and my arthritis some.


39 posted on 12/29/2012 2:49:17 PM PST by Tolerance Sucks Rocks (Merry Christmas!)
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To: skeeter; virgil283

Cutting out wheat greatly diminished my hay fever, but it didn’t work with poison ivy, and I’m not sure it would work with medication allergies.


40 posted on 12/29/2012 2:50:49 PM PST by Tolerance Sucks Rocks (Merry Christmas!)
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To: erlayman
Bananas may not be a good choice for those who are on a low-carb diet:

Carbs in banana

In descending order there are:

35 carbs in one extra large banana (over 9" long)

31 carbs in one large banana (8" to 9" long)

27 carbs in one medium banana (7" to 8" long)

23 carbs in one small banana (6" long)

19 carbs in one extra small banana (less than 6" long)

6½ carbs in each ounce or 28g of banana

51 carbs in one cup of mashed bananas

34 carbohydrates in one cup of sliced bananas

Glycemic Index for Bananas

The glycemic index (GI) of bananas varies depending upon how ripe the bananas are. This is because a lot of the carbohydrate in green bananas is in the form of a kind of resistant starch which we lack the enzyme to digest. As the fruit ripens, the starch is converted into readily available sugars. One study of "under-ripe" bananas came up with a glycemic index of 30. One of "slightly under-ripe bananas" that were "yellow with green sections" produced a GI of 42, while another of "over-ripe" bananas was 52. However, most studies of bananas haven't specified the ripeness, and have come up with GIs ranging from 46 to 70. An average of 52 is usually assigned to bananas.

source: Google search

41 posted on 12/29/2012 2:51:35 PM PST by trisham (Zen is not easy. It takes effort to attain nothingness. And then what do you have? Bupkis.)
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To: virgil283

I’m lovin this thread!! Thanks!


42 posted on 12/29/2012 2:56:47 PM PST by surroundedbyblue (Live the message of Fatima - pray & do penance!)
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To: muawiyah; skeeter

Don’t forget to check your nutritional supplements. Some of them use wheat as a component.


43 posted on 12/29/2012 2:58:44 PM PST by Tolerance Sucks Rocks (Merry Christmas!)
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To: virgil283

Except for bacon. Bacon is awful. You don’t want bacon.


44 posted on 12/29/2012 3:06:30 PM PST by tacticalogic ("Oh, bother!" said Pooh, as he chambered his last round.)
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To: goodwithagun
Calories in calories out concept is a joke.

Heh. I got flamed big-time by a fellow FReeper a couple months back who thoroughly approves of the government regulations forcing restaurants to post the calorie content of their menu items. I explained to him that calorie-counting is obsolete and the regs are an unnecessary cost burden to businesses.

He was just furious with me. Calls himself a conservative but this was one nanny-state regulation he liked.

45 posted on 12/29/2012 3:25:34 PM PST by BfloGuy (Workers and consumers are, of course, identical.)
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To: tacticalogic

Bacon is fine. Turkey bacon is better, but both are acceptable.

Fat is not bad for you - Simple Carbs are the culprit.

Research “Glycemic Index”

Foods with a high index will cause insulin spikes which cause weight gain, plus the highs and lows in energy.

A low-carb, high-fat and high-fiber diet of veggies will boost your energy levels, keep them constant and you will look, feel, think and sleep better.

I went from 250 lbs. to 180 lbs. in 8 Months and have stayed under 200 lbs. for the past 10 years on a modified version of Atkins.

Another helpful hint: Get a George Foreman Grill as it makes it easy to cook Bacon, Salmon, Chicken, etc...

Stir-Fry is good too. Chicken and veggies cook up quick and easy.

Tuna/Egg Salad is another favorite.

I weight myself weekly, and if I start to approach 200 lbs. (I’m 6’2”) I cut back on carbs.

After the “Induction” period of under 20g of carbs per day, I keep my carb intake to under 75g per day.

Good carbs - not pasta, bread or other simple carbs that are converted to sugar and then to fat.

Buy the Atkins book or one of the similar books and learn the basics, then follow them and watch the weight fly off and the energy go up.


46 posted on 12/29/2012 3:34:17 PM PST by Rodney Dangerfield ("Don't ya just hate waiting in line at the Post Office? - Just wait until ObamaCare is implemented.")
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To: Rodney Dangerfield

I agree 100% with your entire post, but I’d like to add that in addition to looking, feeling, thinking, and sleeping better, your overall health, including blood pressure, blood sugar, and lipid profile will improve.

People with diabetes & high blood pressure do themselves a world of good if they switch to a low carb lifestyle.


47 posted on 12/29/2012 3:52:57 PM PST by surroundedbyblue (Live the message of Fatima - pray & do penance!)
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To: Rodney Dangerfield

I too have had a lot of success with carb dieting. It works if you stay disciplined. I have to laugh at people who tell me Atkins is “dangerous” because of brain-washing from the boob tube.

Basically for me the two enemies are enriched white flour (doughnuts, cookies, cakes, pastries) and milk, which packs the pounds on like nothing else.

I eat a lot of chicken wings, salads, wraps, and snack on rolled up Wunderbar bologna and Special K Cracker Chips, Sea salt flavor.

Lost 15 lbs since Oct...


48 posted on 12/29/2012 3:55:45 PM PST by ez (When you're a hammer, everything looks like a nail.)
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To: erlayman

When I make stir fry I substitute shredded cooked cabbage for rice. Yummy.


49 posted on 12/29/2012 3:57:33 PM PST by ez (When you're a hammer, everything looks like a nail.)
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To: virgil283

I am 66 yrs. old and sick and tired of dealing with people’s disapproval of other people’s weight. - I’ve dieted a lot of my life; but mostly didn’t pick up weight until after 40. Even then, I wasn’t grossly obese; except in the eyes of the “who’s who and what’s what” PC dieters’ opinions - and they tend to think if you’re not skinny as a stick of spaghetti you’re too fat.

I’m hungry, and I’m gonna eat. I have to cook. Don’t feel like being hungry and not eating like a human being. - The BRAIN is composed of fat. We need fat; lest we get alzheimers. - Today this is good, that is bad. Tomorrow it’ll be something else. Besides, Michelle has done got on my one good nerve about food.


50 posted on 12/29/2012 3:57:57 PM PST by Twinkie (The WICKED walk on every side when EVIL men are exalted. Psalm 12:8)
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