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Last of the giant camels and archaic humans lived together in Mongolia until 27,000 years ago
Phys.org ^ | MARCH 24, 2022

Posted on 04/22/2022 11:14:28 AM PDT by nickcarraway

A species of giant two-humped camel, Camelus knoblochi, is known to have lived for approximately a quarter of a million years in Central Asia. A new study in Frontiers in Earth Science shows that C. knoblochi's last refuge was in Mongolia until approximately 27,000 years ago. In Mongolia, the last of the species coexisted with anatomically modern humans and maybe the extinct Neanderthals or Denisovans. While the main cause of C. knoblochi's extinction seems to have been climate change, hunting by archaic humans may also have played a role.

"Here we show that the extinct camel, Camelus knoblochi, persisted in Mongolia until climatic and environmental changes nudged it into extinction about 27,000 years ago," said Dr. John W Olsen, Regents' professor emeritus at the School of Anthropology of the University of Arizona, Tucson, US.

Paradoxically, today, southwestern Mongolia hosts one of the last two wild populations of the critically endangered wild Bactrian camel, C. ferus. The new results suggest that C. knoblochi coexisted with C. ferus during the late Pleistocene in Mongolia, so that between-species competition may have been a third cause of C. knoblochi's extinction. Standing nearly three meters tall and weighing more than a ton, C. knoblochi would have dwarfed C. ferus. The precise taxonomic relationships between these two species, other extinct Camelus, and the ancient Paracamelus aren't yet resolved.

Olsen said, "C. knoblochi fossil remains from Tsagaan Agui Cave [in the Gobi Altai Mountains of southwestern Mongolia], which also contains a rich, stratified sequence of human Paleolithic cultural material, suggest that archaic people coexisted and interacted there with C. knoblochi and elsewhere, contemporaneously, with the wild Bactrian camel."

Steppe specialists driven into extinction by desertification

The new study describes five C. knoblochi leg and foot bones found in Tsagaan Agui Cave in 2021, and one from Tugrug Shireet in today's Gobi Desert of southern Mongolia. They were found in association with bones of wolves, cave hyenas, rhinoceroses, horses, wild donkeys, ibexes, wild sheep, and Mongolian gazelles. This assemblage indicates that C. knoblochi lived in montane and lowland steppe environments, less dry habitats than those of its modern relatives.

The authors conclude that C. knoblochi finally went extinct primarily because it was less tolerant of desertification than today's camels, C. ferus, the domestic Bactrian camel C. bactrianus, and the domestic Arabian camel C. dromedarius.

In the late Pleistocene, much of Mongolia's environment became drier and changed from steppe to dry steppe and finally desert.

"Apparently, C. knoblochi was poorly adapted to desert biomes, primarily because such landscapes could not support such large animals, but perhaps there were other reasons as well, related to the availability of fresh water and the ability of camels to store water within the body, poorly adapted mechanisms of thermoregulation, and competition from other members of the faunal community occupying the same trophic niche," wrote the authors.

Towards the end, the last of the species may have lingered, at least seasonally, in the milder forest steppe—grassland interspersed with woodland—further north in neighboring Siberia. But this habitat probably wasn't ideal either, which could have sounded the death knell for C. knoblochi. The world would not see giant camels again.

Preyed upon or scavenged by humans

What were the relations between archaic humans and C. knoblochi?

Corresponding author Dr. Arina M Khatsenovich, senior researcher at the Russian Academy of Sciences' Institute of Archeology and Ethnography in Novosibirsk, Russia, said, "A C. knoblochi metacarpal bone from Tsagaan Agui Cave, dated to between 59,000 and 44,000 years ago, exhibits traces of both butchery by humans and hyenas gnawing on it. This suggests that C. knoblochi was a species that Late Pleistocene humans in Mongolia could hunt or scavenge."

"We don't yet have sufficient material evidence regarding the interaction between humans and C. ferus in the Late Pleistocene, but it likely did not differ from human relationships with C. knoblochi—as prey, but not a target for domestication."

First author Dr. Alexey Klementiev, a paleobiologist with the Russian Academy of Sciences' Siberian Branch, said, "We conclude that C. knoblochi became extinct in Mongolia and in Asia, generally, by the end of Marine Isotope Stage 3 (roughly 27,000 years ago) as a result of climate changes that provoked degradation of the steppe ecosystem and intensified the process of aridification."


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1 posted on 04/22/2022 11:14:28 AM PDT by nickcarraway
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The love that dare not speak its name.


2 posted on 04/22/2022 11:15:40 AM PDT by ClearCase_guy (It's hard to "Believe all women" when judges say "I don't know what a woman is".)
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3 posted on 04/22/2022 11:19:16 AM PDT by algore
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I was told that the “Turkish” tobacco was actually grown in Macedonia (northern Greece), which was part of Turkey until 1912.


4 posted on 04/22/2022 11:24:29 AM PDT by Verginius Rufus
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To: ClearCase_guy

😂


5 posted on 04/22/2022 11:25:22 AM PDT by Rebelbase
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To: ClearCase_guy

The French Foreign Legion commander shrieked, “Non! Non! You ride the camel into town!!”


6 posted on 04/22/2022 11:26:12 AM PDT by I-ambush (We watched the moment of defeat, played back over on the video screen. )
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To: nickcarraway
Camelus knoblochi, AKA Joe.


7 posted on 04/22/2022 11:29:37 AM PDT by Rebelbase
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8 posted on 04/22/2022 11:38:29 AM PDT by PIF (They came for me and mine ... now its your turn)
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To: ClearCase_guy

The love that dare not speak its name.

answers the question posed by the article:
What were the relations between archaic humans and C. knoblochi?


9 posted on 04/22/2022 11:40:45 AM PDT by PIF (They came for me and mine ... now its your turn)
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I hope I live long enough to see a cloned sabertooth tiger or mastodon. One of these camels would be cool, too.


10 posted on 04/22/2022 11:44:52 AM PDT by wintertime ( Behind every government school teacher stand armed police.( Real bullets in those guns on the hip!))
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To: Rebelbase

Isn’t knobloch German for garlic??


11 posted on 04/22/2022 11:51:53 AM PDT by meowmeow (In Loving Memory of Our Dear Viking Kitty (1987-2006))
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I want a pet velociraptor.


12 posted on 04/22/2022 11:54:59 AM PDT by BipolarBob (I think I'm turning Japanese, I really think so.)
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Yup. Wonder if something distinctive in the bone structures looks like a garlic clove.


13 posted on 04/22/2022 11:56:42 AM PDT by pierrem15 ("Massacrez-les, car le seigneur connait les siens" )
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To: nickcarraway

“Carry on Follow That Camel” with Phil Silvers

https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0061680/mediaviewer/rm922851329/


14 posted on 04/22/2022 11:59:11 AM PDT by Ruy Dias de Bivar (Trannies, the modern version of the priests of Attis, Adonis, Osiris and Tammuz.)
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I’d settle for a Short Faced Bear, or even a Cave Bear. A Giant Sloth would be neat also.


15 posted on 04/22/2022 12:01:35 PM PDT by PIF (They came for me and mine ... now its your turn)
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To: algore
Bit of trivia: the camel of the front of a package of Camel cigarettes has a specific name. What is it?
16 posted on 04/22/2022 1:34:05 PM PDT by quadrant (1o mercyflush)
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To: SunkenCiv

Ping.

5.56mm


17 posted on 04/22/2022 1:35:35 PM PDT by M Kehoe (Quid Pro Joe and the Ho need to go.)
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“ While the main cause of C. knoblochi’s extinction seems to have been climate change, hunting by archaic humans may also have played a role.”

This is where the libtards are leading us - back to the Stone Age where they had the same hand wringing problems as today 🤪


18 posted on 04/22/2022 1:53:26 PM PDT by NWFree (Somebody has to say it)
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I’d like to see an aurochs.


19 posted on 04/22/2022 1:53:56 PM PDT by Buttons12 ( )
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To: quadrant

Joe Camel


20 posted on 04/22/2022 1:53:56 PM PDT by NWFree (Somebody has to say it)
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