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Early DNA lineages from Finland shed light on the diverse origins of the contemporary population
Eurekalert! ^ | November 15, 2019 | University of Helsinki

Posted on 11/16/2019 11:01:59 PM PST by SunkenCiv

A new genetic study carried out at the University of Helsinki and the University of Turku demonstrates that, at the end of the Iron Age, Finland was inhabited by separate and differing populations, all of them influencing the gene pool of modern Finns. The study is so far the most extensive investigation of the ancient DNA of people inhabiting the region of Finland.

In the study, genes were investigated from archaeological bone samples of more than one hundred individuals who lived between the 4th and 19th centuries AD. Most of the samples originated in the Iron Age and the Middle Ages. Mitochondrial DNA (mtDNA), which is passed down by mothers to all of their offspring, was extracted from the individuals, thus uncovering the population history of women.

Based on the findings, the people who inhabited Finland in the Iron Age (approximately 300-1300 AD) and the Middle Ages (approximately 1200-1500 AD) shared mitochondrial lineages with today's Finns. However, significant differences were seen in the genome of individuals buried in different burial sites in the Iron Age in particular. mtDNA lineages typical of Stone Age hunter-gatherers were common among those buried in Luistari, Eura (southwest Finland), and Kirkkailanmaki, Hollola (southern Finland). In Kylalahti, Hiitola (Republic of Karelia, Russia) and Tuukkala, Mikkeli (eastern Finland), the most common findings were lineages characteristic of ancient European farmer populations. The fifth Iron Age burial site included in the study is located in Levanluhta, western Finland. Many of the individuals buried there represented mtDNA lineages associated with the modern Sami.

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TOPICS: History; Science; Travel
KEYWORDS: eura; finland; godsgravesglyphs; helixmakemineadouble; hiitola; hollola; ironage; karelia; kirkkailanmaki; kylalahti; levanluhta; luistari; middleages; mikkeli; mtdna; russia; sami; stoneage; tuukkala
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To: Openurmind
I'm sure he had a raft of things around. /rimshot

41 posted on 11/17/2019 7:09:27 PM PST by SunkenCiv (Imagine an imaginary menagerie manager imagining managing an imaginary menagerie.)
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To: null and void

Re: add width=xxx to the end of the image URL.

Thanks - that’s very helpful.

Most of the time I can reduce an image by playing around with the numbers in the URL, but this time, no luck at all.


42 posted on 11/17/2019 7:31:26 PM PST by zeestephen
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To: zeestephen; SunkenCiv; blam; Openurmind; BenLurkin; All

Any information on the Neanderthal %age found in Finnish DNA? Is it all in the 1 to 4% range, or does some go higher?


43 posted on 11/17/2019 11:18:25 PM PST by gleeaikin
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To: gleeaikin

Probably varies. :^)

> The latest studies show that altogether about 20 per cent of the original Neanderthal genome lives on, though any one individual today will have a much lower proportion in his or her own genome – typically slightly more than 1 per cent.

https://www.ft.com/content/81747104-8dfe-11e3-bbe7-00144feab7de


44 posted on 11/17/2019 11:44:44 PM PST by SunkenCiv (Imagine an imaginary menagerie manager imagining managing an imaginary menagerie.)
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To: gleeaikin
Re: Neanderthal DNA in Finns

That's a good question. I don't know the answer.

There is a cave on the south central coastline of Finland that contains artifacts and animal bones that some researchers claim trace back to Neanderthals.

However, most regional academics believe that Neanderthals never lived in Denmark, Norway, Sweden, or Finland [see map for most Neanderthal sites].

Since most Finns come from central Asia, the Black Sea region, and northeastern Europe, they probably have very little, if any, Neanderthal DNA.

45 posted on 11/18/2019 4:23:58 AM PST by zeestephen
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To: zeestephen; SunkenCiv; blam; All

So, then the next question is could they have any Denosivan? I realize no studies on that may have been done, yet.


46 posted on 11/18/2019 6:32:12 AM PST by gleeaikin
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To: gleeaikin
"So, then the next question is could they have any Denosivan? I realize no studies on that may have been done, yet."

I can't answer your question.

I have read that Denisovian DNA is the most completely/thoroughly examined DNA in the world though.

Denisovan Find Hints The Extinct Humans Colonized The ‘Roof of the World’

47 posted on 11/18/2019 9:20:19 AM PST by blam
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To: zeestephen
Where In The World Are Our Neanderthal And Denisovan Ancestors?


48 posted on 11/18/2019 9:32:24 AM PST by blam
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To: SunkenCiv

It was from that doc that we also learned that it takes exactly 13 warriors to save a village.

That’s useful knowledge.


49 posted on 11/18/2019 12:35:47 PM PST by Grimmy (equivocation is but the first step along the road to capitulation)
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To: Grimmy
If you would, what was the name of the thing? I need something to watch later.

50 posted on 11/18/2019 4:17:02 PM PST by SunkenCiv (Imagine an imaginary menagerie manager imagining managing an imaginary menagerie.)
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To: blam; SunkenCiv; Openurmind; BenLurkin; All

I read your link and several questions came to mind. Since the Denisovans may have had an adaptation for high altitude living, have the people of the high Andes been tested for Denisovan genes? They are said to have very large teeth. I have very large molars (D) and shoveling of two upper lateral incisors (N). My maternal grandmother came from the petit aristocracy of East Prussia which no doubt had some blood lines from the conquering Mongols. I know that if you go to some of the popular DNA testers they will give you your Neanderthal DNA percentage. Are there any that now give Denisovan figures?


51 posted on 11/19/2019 10:12:39 PM PST by gleeaikin
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To: gleeaikin

The graphic I got in response to my uploaded raw DNA file was quite colorful, showed the common bands of genes. My raw DNA file came from Ancestry, but 23andMe files also work, other ones do as well. Looks like there are a great many more options now:

http://www.google.com/search?q=archaic+dna+testing+project

I doubt that anyone has looked for Denisovan genes in PreColumbian rooted people, but you may be right, someone may be in for a surprise. :^)


52 posted on 11/19/2019 11:01:20 PM PST by SunkenCiv (Imagine an imaginary menagerie manager imagining managing an imaginary menagerie.)
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To: gleeaikin; SunkenCiv
High-Altitude Adaptation In humans

"In contrast to the Tibetans, the Andean highlanders, who have been living at high-altitudes for no more than 11,000 years, show different pattern of haemoglobin adaptation."

Where Do The Finns Come From?

"Grave findings have shown that late Palaeolithic settlers in central Europe and their Mesolithic descendants in the Scandinavian Peninsula were Europoids, who had compartively large teeth - a seemingly comical detail, but nevertheless an important factor in identifying these populations. Although it is very unlikely that the language of these settlers will ever be identified, I cannot see any grounds for the theory that either of these groups spoke Proto-Uralic. "

53 posted on 11/20/2019 8:12:39 AM PST by blam
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To: gleeaikin; SunkenCiv; blam

The percentage of Denisovan DNA is highest in the Melanesian population (4 to 6 percent), lower in other Southeast Asian and Pacific Islander populations, and very low or undetectable elsewhere in the world.
Link
https://ghr.nlm.nih.gov/primer/dtcgenetictesting/neanderthaldna


54 posted on 11/20/2019 10:16:19 AM PST by Viiksitimali
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To: Viiksitimali; gleeaikin; blam

I feel special. :^)


55 posted on 11/20/2019 12:18:58 PM PST by SunkenCiv (Imagine an imaginary menagerie manager imagining managing an imaginary menagerie.)
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To: Viiksitimali

Thanks Viiksitimali. Nice to hear from you, it’s been a while.


56 posted on 11/20/2019 12:51:39 PM PST by blam
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To: SunkenCiv
The 13th Warrior. It is based very very loosely on a mix of the writings of Ahmad ibn Fadlan and Beowulf.

The book, "Eaters of the Dead" by Crichton was more interesting IMHO but it is a bit dated. Prehistory has changed a great deal in the past decade.

57 posted on 11/20/2019 1:17:06 PM PST by Harmless Teddy Bear (A hero is a hero no matter what medal they give him. Likewise a schmuck is still a schmuck.)
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To: Harmless Teddy Bear

Thx.


58 posted on 11/20/2019 8:31:52 PM PST by SunkenCiv (Imagine an imaginary menagerie manager imagining managing an imaginary menagerie.)
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To: gleeaikin

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/chat/3779827/posts?page=84#84


59 posted on 11/21/2019 2:56:48 PM PST by SunkenCiv (Imagine an imaginary menagerie manager imagining managing an imaginary menagerie.)
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To: Stosh

From what I understand the “Finnish language” is an artificial construct created in the 1800s from a number of Finnish languageS - not dialects.

It does have cousins nearby like the Karelian language and Sami language


60 posted on 11/28/2019 1:53:37 AM PST by Cronos (Re-elect President Trump 2020!)
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