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Giant fossil shows huge birds lived among dinosaurs
BBC News ^ | 8-10-2011

Posted on 08/10/2011 5:21:06 PM PDT by Renfield

An enormous jawbone found in Kazakhstan is further evidence that giant birds roamed - or flew above - the Earth at the same time as the dinosaurs.

Writing in Biology Letters, researchers say the new species, Samrukia nessovi, had a skull some 30cm long.

If flightless, the bird would have been 2-3m tall; if it flew, it may have had a wingspan of 4m.

The find is only the second bird of such a size in the Cretaceous geologic period, and the first in Asia.

The only other evidence of a bird of such a size during the period was a fossilised spinal bone found in France and reported in a 1995 paper in Nature. Sharing space

An overwhelming majority of the birds known from the period would have been about crow-sized, but Dr Darren Naish of the University of Portsmouth said that a second find of an evidently different species suggests that large birds were common at the time....

(Excerpt) Read more at bbc.co.uk ...


TOPICS: History; Science
KEYWORDS: birds; dinosaur; dinosaurs; ggg; godsgravesglyphs; paleontology
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The fossilised jawbone is nearly twice the length of that of an ostrich, the largest bird found on Earth today

1 posted on 08/10/2011 5:21:14 PM PDT by Renfield
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To: SunkenCiv

Dino-ping...


2 posted on 08/10/2011 5:22:04 PM PDT by Renfield (Turning apples into venison since 1999!)
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To: Renfield

Make a wish...


3 posted on 08/10/2011 5:22:33 PM PDT by null and void (Day 930. When your only tools are a Hammer & Sickle, everything looks like a Capitalist...)
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To: Renfield

Do you see what I see?? It looks like.....”Oh, no...I’m a lesbian”.


4 posted on 08/10/2011 5:25:15 PM PDT by Sacajaweau
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To: Renfield

I’d consider living among dinosaurs, if I were a huge bird.


5 posted on 08/10/2011 5:27:55 PM PDT by Larry Lucido
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To: Larry Lucido

I’d consider living ABOVE them.


6 posted on 08/10/2011 5:29:52 PM PDT by PzLdr ("The Emperor is not as forgiving as I am" - Darth Vader)
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To: Larry Lucido

“huge birds lived among dinosaurs”

That doesn’t shock me, since in modern times, we have moslems living among humans.


7 posted on 08/10/2011 5:32:35 PM PDT by LyinLibs (All moslems are somewhere on the killing-you spectrum)
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To: Renfield

Wing night at the Bedrock Pub


8 posted on 08/10/2011 5:34:18 PM PDT by NativeSon
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I thought birds came from dinosaurs, or was that just chickens?
9 posted on 08/10/2011 5:34:58 PM PDT by ZX12R (FUBO GTFO 2012 !)
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To: ZX12R

There was one branch of the dino family that became birds. Other branches didn’t. The bird branch was the one that survived whatever killed off the other dinos.


10 posted on 08/10/2011 5:37:14 PM PDT by PapaBear3625 (When you've only heard lies your entire life, the truth sounds insane.)
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To: NativeSon
Wing night at the Bedrock Pub

Mmmmm...Samrukia nessovi wings, and brontosaurus ribs. If they put the wings on the passenger side, the car won't tip over.
11 posted on 08/10/2011 5:39:31 PM PDT by ZX12R (FUBO GTFO 2012 !)
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To: PapaBear3625
There was one branch of the dino family that became birds. Other branches didn’t. The bird branch was the one that survived whatever killed off the other dinos.

I see. The one branch took to the sky, and the rest stayed on the ground and ate each other to extinction.
12 posted on 08/10/2011 5:44:41 PM PDT by ZX12R (FUBO GTFO 2012 !)
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To: Renfield
... and mated with wooly mammoths ...


13 posted on 08/10/2011 5:46:32 PM PDT by x
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To: Renfield; StayAt HomeMother; Ernest_at_the_Beach; 1010RD; 21twelve; 24Karet; 2ndDivisionVet; ...

 GGG managers are SunkenCiv, StayAt HomeMother & Ernest_at_the_Beach
Thanks Renfield. 'Tastes like chicken' ping.

To all -- please ping me to other topics which are appropriate for the GGG list.


14 posted on 08/10/2011 7:51:29 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (Yes, as a matter of fact, it is that time again -- https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/)
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To: Sacajaweau; SunkenCiv; TheOldLady; null and void; Renfield
Do you see what I see??

Yeah. The reason people with dentures don't chew Bubbleyum.

Oh, no...I’m a lesbian

One date with the bighead otta cure ya of that...

15 posted on 08/10/2011 8:07:31 PM PDT by bigheadfred ("I consulted all the sages I could find in yellow pages but there aren't many of them")
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There were some really large aggressive land birds in the Paleocene, perhaps this line survived in enough quantity to reproduce rapidly. My theory is that after all the other bad stuff from the boloid extinction, another problem was that the ozone layer was severly damaged or gone for a while. Anything with feathers, nocturnal habits, living underground, hibernating in the mud, etc. had a better chance of surviving. Thus we have birds, mammals, snakes, frogs, turtles, alligators, etc., but adios dinosaurs.


16 posted on 08/10/2011 9:40:24 PM PDT by gleeaikin
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I decided to Google the big bird issue and found this interesting link regarding the shift from few carnivorous mammals to higher numbers after the KT extinction. Also the large bird I mentioned was Gastornis in the Palecene, followed by equally large Miatryma in the early Eocene (illustrated). SC this is a nice link and might deserve a separate ping post.

http://www.paleocene-mammals.de/predators.htm


17 posted on 08/10/2011 9:50:56 PM PDT by gleeaikin
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To: PapaBear3625; ZX12R

If you’ve got an enormously long time horizon, enough branches (harshly pruned or nimbly grafted as needed) and are comfortable with flexibly interpreted morphogenesis and physiogeny, presto you can ‘evolve’ anything.

You could also simply repeat “ontogeny recapitulates phylogeny” a thousand times and then just turn your brain off.


18 posted on 08/11/2011 5:41:43 AM PDT by 1010RD (First, Do No Harm)
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If you’ve got an enormously long time horizon, enough branches (harshly pruned or nimbly grafted as needed) and are comfortable with flexibly interpreted morphogenesis and physiogeny, presto you can ‘evolve’ anything. You could also simply repeat “ontogeny recapitulates phylogeny” a thousand times and then just turn your brain off.

Reading your post, made my brain shut off. Is it possible to put that in layman's term?
19 posted on 08/11/2011 6:15:12 AM PDT by ZX12R (FUBO GTFO 2012 !)
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To: bigheadfred

The line is from the “Everyone Loves Raymond” show


20 posted on 08/11/2011 6:18:42 AM PDT by Sacajaweau
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