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Area youth's toothy find spurs archaeological inquiries
Waco Tribune-Herald ^ | Wednesday, October 25, 2006 | Cindy V. Culp

Posted on 10/25/2006 10:35:28 PM PDT by SunkenCiv

The story began Sunday afternoon, when 14-year-old Monty Huffman went searching for Lexi, his cow dog. She had disappeared, and he thought she might have wandered into the dirt and gravel pits behind his home in Asa... As it turned out, Lexi was nowhere to be found. But what Monty ended up discovering was much more interesting. As he was walking around the bottom of one of the pits, Monty said, something caught his eye. It was sticking out of the side of the dirt wall and looked a little like a rock. But something about it was odd. Monty grabbed hold of the object and gave it a little tug. Sure enough, out came a fossil... After all, she knew about a 1978 find that has become internationally known as the Waco Mammoth Site. Located near the Bosque River, it contains an entire herd and represents the largest known concentration of prehistoric mammoths dying from a single event... Lexi, by the way, found her way back home safe and sound. Chances are, the family says, there is a bone or two in her future -- as a reward, that is.

(Excerpt) Read more at wacotrib.com ...


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Area youths toothy find spurs archaeological inquiries

1 posted on 10/25/2006 10:35:30 PM PDT by SunkenCiv
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2 posted on 10/25/2006 10:36:23 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (Dhimmicrati delenda est! https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/)
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To: SunkenCiv
Found most of a mammoth skull in a river bank outside of Corpus back in 1966.
Took it to the local college and found out they had a room full from the area.
Decided just fishing had a better payback.

This is a nice story, glad the dog got home, not much as news goes.

3 posted on 10/26/2006 12:00:58 AM PDT by norton
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To: SunkenCiv

"prehistoric mammoths dying from a single event"...

A hundred thousand hungry neanderthals with rocks and sharp sticks?

It's about time somebody in the science community admits that there have been major cataclysms in the past.


4 posted on 10/26/2006 2:45:41 AM PDT by djf (I'm not ISLAMOPHOBIC, just BOMBOPHOBIC!! Whether that's the same is up to Islam!!!)
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To: norton

It was a valuable find though. You got to tell us about it and we are impressed.

My fossils are mostly trivial in comparison.


5 posted on 10/26/2006 4:20:49 AM PDT by bert (K.E. N.P. We will screw you inshallah)
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To: djf

Yeah, I thought that was a great tidbit to excerpt. :')


6 posted on 10/26/2006 5:47:29 AM PDT by SunkenCiv (Dhimmicrati delenda est! https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/)
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To: djf

I read once that mastodons found frozen in Siberia were supposedly "flash frozen", with little cellular damage, and the remains of buttercup flowers in their stomachs. Sounds UL'ish to me, but it is true that the meat has been deemed fairly edible and a welcome addition to the prevailing fare at least.


7 posted on 10/26/2006 5:50:09 AM PDT by Freedom4US (u)
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a 1978 find that has become internationally known as the Waco Mammoth Site. Located near the Bosque River, it contains an entire herd and represents the largest known concentration of prehistoric mammoths dying from a single event...
:') But seriously, I've not looked into this.

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8 posted on 10/26/2006 5:53:28 AM PDT by SunkenCiv (Dhimmicrati delenda est! https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/)
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To: SunkenCiv

Neat


9 posted on 10/26/2006 6:25:59 AM PDT by Dustbunny (The BIBLE - Basic Instructions Before Leaving Earth)
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To: Freedom4US

Flash frozen mammoths, not mastodons, were found in Siberia. :')


10 posted on 10/26/2006 6:38:38 AM PDT by SunkenCiv (Dhimmicrati delenda est! https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/)
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To: SunkenCiv; Freedom4US
*shrug* The best grazing is right at the base of the glaciers. The glaciers act as a windbreak, and there is plenty of water and sunlight reflecting off the ice, providing the best warmth and light for plant growth.

The down side is big slabs of ice break off the face.

A mammoth grazing a bit too near when this happens is instantly pounded into the permafrost and buried in ice.
11 posted on 10/26/2006 7:13:18 AM PDT by null and void (Age and experience -- It makes no sense to get one without the other. - Sundog)
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To: null and void

No, the gist of the article, which I recall was part of a geology class - large hunks of meat like wooly mammoth mammoth do not lend themselves to being flash frozen. The implication was that temperatures shifted to well below freezing in a matter of seconds, the result of some cataclysmic event. Again, it sounds like a UL to me...


12 posted on 10/26/2006 7:19:26 AM PDT by Freedom4US (u)
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To: Freedom4US

YMMV...


13 posted on 10/26/2006 7:23:41 AM PDT by null and void (Age and experience -- It makes no sense to get one without the other. - Sundog)
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To: null and void
The best grazing is right at the base of the glaciers.
That's where I do all mine. ;')
14 posted on 10/26/2006 7:36:51 AM PDT by SunkenCiv (Dhimmicrati delenda est! https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/)
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To: djf
"A hundred thousand hungry neanderthals with rocks and sharp sticks?"

How about a hundred hungry neanderthals with rocks and sharp sticks over a thousand years? Im not a proponent of the human caused extinction theories but we do have a site up here that shows how effective early humans were at hunting. At this site it appears that the paleo-indians made a habit of chasing herds into the same bog and butchering whatever got stuck and they apparently did it for quite a while...

15 posted on 10/26/2006 8:18:17 AM PDT by gnarledmaw (I traded freedom for security and all I got were these damned shackles.)
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To: Freedom4US

When Toba in Sumatra erupted 75,000 years ago, ocean temps worldwide plunged about 10 degrees F for over 2,000 years.


But AFAIK there has been no supervolcano events in the last 30,000 years to explain mammoth problems.


16 posted on 10/26/2006 8:24:57 AM PDT by djf (I'm not ISLAMOPHOBIC, just BOMBOPHOBIC!! Whether that's the same is up to Islam!!!)
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To: djf
I guess that wouldnt be an example of a "single" event but unless all the specimens at a given site were tested then, were I the investigator at a site, I wouldnt jump to the conclusion that all of them were from a single event. Ive read too many stories about some theory being dumped on its head, because the "truth" everyone clung to was based on some past scientist making an assumption, to accept most science as absolute fact.
17 posted on 10/26/2006 8:32:44 AM PDT by gnarledmaw (I traded freedom for security and all I got were these damned shackles.)
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To: gnarledmaw

I understand.

But imagine... gold miners in Alaska were stunned becuse they found something. Being miners and not scientists, they called it simply "muck".

It was (and still is) a mix of rocks, mud, plant material and bones... bones of hundreds of animals, many crushed almost beyond recognition, all this stuff smashed up and blended together like a cosmic blender of sorts.

LOTS of it!

None of the stuff fits into a nice standard theory of "Well, the critter died, it's body floated down the river and he was partially eaten by fish and otters, then his bones settled on the bottom..."

It is evidence of some unbelievably powerful cataclysmic event. A scientist I asked about it says some folks think a comet hit about 11,500 years ago.


18 posted on 10/26/2006 8:44:02 AM PDT by djf (I'm not ISLAMOPHOBIC, just BOMBOPHOBIC!! Whether that's the same is up to Islam!!!)
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To: djf
"When Toba in Sumatra erupted 75,000 years ago, ocean temps worldwide plunged about 10 degrees F for over 2,000 years. "

Toba was the last super volcano event.

Late Pleostocene Human Population Bottlenecks. . . (Toba)

19 posted on 10/26/2006 9:47:21 AM PDT by blam
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To: null and void

There were plenty of mammoths here, and no glaciers. Was Siberia glaciated?


20 posted on 10/26/2006 9:49:57 AM PDT by RightWhale (Repeal the law of the excluded middle)
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